Here's something Steve sent me but I don't know how accurate it is. He has an electric water pump on the engine that extends way forward but he says it's not significantly longer than a stock mechanical pump.
Engine Displacement A
lengthB
lengthC
heightD
heightE
widthDIST SUMP STARTER OIL
FILTERWEIGHT Mopar 273/360 29.50 29.50 23.50 31.00 25.00 rear front left right rear 525/560 Mopar V10 488/505 36.88 36.88 23.50 x 25.00 x front left right rear 716/816 Mopar 350/440 29.00 30.00 24.00 30.50 29.50 front center left left front 620/670 Mopar 331/392 Hemi 32.00 31.00 24.00 31.00 29.00 rear center left right rear 729/745 Mopar Late Hemi 32.00 32.00 24.00 32.00 29.00 front center left left front 765
A - Length from rear of intake manifold to water pump pulley
B - Length from rear mounting surface to water pump pulley
C - Height from bottom of sump to highest point of intake manifold
D - Height from bottom of sump to top of carburetor
E - Width outside of valve cover to outside of valve cover
56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension
Other vehicles:
56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
1962 327/340HP Corvette
1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
2001 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax
That data is at the very bottom of the link I posted. I was always of the opinion that the blocks were the same dimensionally, i.e. length but I know physically, there are other differences.
I got the body off the frame a while ago using some simple brackets I made for the rear body mounts, a spreader bar, and an engine hoist. I used a similar setup in front:
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Then I pulled the engine, installed a Milodon remote oil filter adapter to eliminate the interference with the rack, rotated the rack, and repositioned the engine further forward and down as low as it will go.
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Unfortunately the custom-built headers don't fit anymore, but Steve thought they were crap anyhow. The other shop hacked up a new set of headers he had and threw them in the trash, which is where these are going.
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I cut out these crappy engine mounts the other shop built to get ready to build a new set. Notice the steering shaft notch doesn't even line up with the rack, and there's no way to remove the upper a-arm bolt on the driver's side.
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Then I mocked up the radiator support and SPAL fans and did the final engine positioning.
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After moving the engine forward as far as possible, the Gear Vendors overdrive still fits but the speedo sensor notch will have to be modified. I will also have to modify the transmission mount to lower the GV unit a little and move everything forward. We ended up gaining about 3/4". That doesn't sound like a lot, but the engine mounts had to be re-done anyhow to get the front of the engine down, which was Steve's biggest complaint.
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56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension
Other vehicles:
56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
1962 327/340HP Corvette
1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
2001 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax
The dumbass buys a C4 frame and all he does is bash everything about it.
I'm doing what the owner wants me to do, so STFU RD. All of your ignorant posts like this will be deleted from All of MY progress threads. If you want to start threads of your own to bash what you bought, go for it.
56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension
Other vehicles:
56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
1962 327/340HP Corvette
1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
2001 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax
I enjoy when you explain your work (including what you're trying to accomplish) and post pictures of each step. It helps us all visualize better, and allows others to ask questions when they see something they either suspect or are confused by. Keep it up Laszlo...the world of Tri5 builders is better off when we all use this forum to help each other get these cars built.
1957 Nomad- LS1/T56 on C4 chassis
1959 Fleetside Apache 1/2 ton, shortbed, big window, 327ci.
Thanks Paul, I don't mind questions about what I'm doing except when the questions are nothing more than thinly-veiled criticisms, insults, or snide comments just to start an argument. If someone wants to discuss the benefits or deficiencies of a C4 suspension, they can start their own thread or go post on one that already exists and not continually disrupt my build threads with OT posts or irrelevant comments.
This build has been kind of unique, that's why I've chosen to post a thread about it. There are some challenges that we don't face with other engine installations we do.
Last edited by chevynut; 12-02-2016 at 09:37 AM.
56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension
Other vehicles:
56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
1962 327/340HP Corvette
1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
2001 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax
Well, just when I was getting into the design of the engine mounts for the 440, Steve contacted me and wanted to talk about something. He found an early 392 Hemi with dual quads and the price is supposedly so low he can't pass it up. I looked over pics of some of these engines and don't see any big showstopper, so now we're back to a Hemi.
I have to pull the 440 back out and put the body back on the frame to store the car for a couple weeks until he gets the engine and adapter for the 727 Torqueflyte. I have two other frames to build so I need to get working on them and will get back to the Hemi55 when I can.
56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension
Other vehicles:
56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
1962 327/340HP Corvette
1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
2001 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax
go slow... it might give him time to change his mind again.. back to what's in there now...