Advantages and disadvantages of stretching the C4 wheelbase?

[55 Rescue Dog]

That's irrelevant to the discussion about C4 suspensions, isn't it RD? How many times have you autocrossed a tri5 with a C4 suspension?

Maybe you should just build your car and if you don't like it, sell it. Or you should find someone or even TALK to someone who owns one (like Kyle Newman) and get the straight scoop from them. Then you don't have to agonize over all of these phony "issues" you keep hallucinating about.

Your the one that brought up the subject of autocrossing, that you must have some experience at, since you mention it frequently on other threads. You must know all about the subject of autocrossing too, or maybe just read about it.

[chevynut]

Your inference relative to my personal experience in another attempt to belittle or instigate, goad or otherwise instill hostility is duly noted and ignored.

It's his MO Nick. He asks leading questions that are actually criticizing something or someone, then when he gets his ass handed to him proving his ignorance, he changes the subject. It's happened ever since he showed up here asking for "feedback" on the C4 suspensions and ignoring all the advice he was given. Now he blames me and others here for his decision to buy a C4 conversion frame that has so many "issues" and "inherent problems". Notice how he never addresses or acknowledges the calculations, links, suggestions or any information given to address his concerns, or anything someone tells him? He just goes on to his next "issue" or changes the subject like he just did.

So far he's said that a single shear dogbone mount is going to break, with no proof of it whatsoever, and despite the fact that many others use the same thing including GM. He says a torque arm behaves differently than a pinion support bracket, which is BS and shows his total lack of understanding. He says coilovers don't work right on a C4 suspension, because GM didn't use them. He says the C4 aluminum parts will "fatigue" over time so they're no good but has zero proof of that ever happening to anyone, anywhere. He believes rubber doesn't "bind" but poly does despite the fact that GM says you have to put the car at ride height before tightening the suspension bolts with the stock rubber bushings. He says poly bushings on dogbones will cause the dogbones to twist and break, but nobody has ever had that happen and he can't prove that it can, and despite information showing that it's a negligible deflection. He says a narrowed C4 rear suspension is a bad thing despite it being done by many others, but can't explain why it's supposedly bad. He says it's better to lower the CG of a car by lowering the seats and other weight inside the car than to drop the suspension...lmao. Now he says that slightly reduced steering radius which has been mentioned before is such a big problem but it probably won't affect anything but parking and u-turns. I probably missed a half dozen or more other things. There's a diagnosis for people like that. You can't teach them anything because they don't want to admit they're wrong.

[55 Rescue Dog]

It's his MO Nick. He asks leading questions that are actually criticizing something or someone, then when he gets his ass handed to him proving his ignorance, he changes the subject. It's happened ever since he showed up here asking for "feedback" on the C4 suspensions and ignoring all the advice he was given. Now he blames me and others here for his decision to buy a C4 conversion frame that has so many "issues" and "inherent problems". Notice how he never addresses or acknowledges the calculations, links, suggestions or any information given to address his concerns, or anything someone tells him? He just goes on to his next "issue" or changes the subject like he just did.

So far he's said that a single shear dogbone mount is going to break, with no proof of it whatsoever, and despite the fact that many others use the same thing including GM. He says a torque arm behaves differently than a pinion support bracket, which is BS and shows his total lack of understanding. He says coilovers don't work right on a C4 suspension, because GM didn't use them. He says the C4 aluminum parts will "fatigue" over time so they're no good but has zero proof of that ever happening to anyone, anywhere. He believes rubber doesn't "bind" but poly does despite the fact that GM says you have to put the car at ride height before tightening the suspension bolts with the stock rubber bushings. He says poly bushings on dogbones will cause the dogbones to twist and break, but nobody has ever had that happen and he can't prove that it can, and despite information showing that it's a negligible deflection. He says a narrowed C4 rear suspension is a bad thing despite it being done by many others, but can't explain why it's supposedly bad. He says it's better to lower the CG of a car by lowering the seats and other weight inside the car than to drop the suspension...lmao. Now he says that slightly reduced steering radius which has been mentioned before is such a big problem but it probably won't affect anything but parking and u-turns. I probably missed a half dozen or more other things. There's a diagnosis for people like that. You can't teach them anything because they don't want to admit they're wrong.

So I guess you have never autocrossed, or raced at all. And, a car in the shop has no proof, until it is driven, no matter how it looks on paper, which ain't pavement. BTW you always tighten rubber bushings at ride height which puts the bushing in it's neutral position on any vehicle, if you knew how they work. U-turns suck when it takes more that one try in traffic.