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    The people who benefit (the congress itself) will NEVER change the law for term limits within that body. If we are to get term limits (and any other law which limits what they GIVE THEMSELVES), then we have to rely on the method provided US in the constitution ie. A Constitutional Convention of States.. ie. where a sufficient quantity of STATES get together and pass a constitutional amendment (or amendments) to change the status quo. There is an effort underway the past couple of years to do just that. Already 9 or 10 states have approved this, but we need 34 states I think... Please support this effort in your own state!

    https://www.conventionofstates.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaNomad View Post
    The people who benefit (the congress itself) will NEVER change the law for term limits within that body. If we are to get term limits (and any other law which limits what they GIVE THEMSELVES), then we have to rely on the method provided US in the constitution ie. A Constitutional Convention of States.. ie. where a sufficient quantity of STATES get together and pass a constitutional amendment (or amendments) to change the status quo. There is an effort underway the past couple of years to do just that. Already 9 or 10 states have approved this, but we need 34 states I think... Please support this effort in your own state!

    https://www.conventionofstates.com/
    I received this information in my email this evening:

    "Just moments ago, North Dakota passed the Convention of States resolution with overwhelming support!

    This historic vote adds North Dakota to the growing list of states banding together to place much-needed limits on the power of the federal government. "

    So now we have 10 states that have adopted the Convention of States resolution, the main objective being to amend the constitution to insert term limits ... We need 24 more states to adopt the resolution in order to have a convention of state representatives and address such an amendment. (Congress will NEVER do it themselves: WE must do it)...

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    Term limits would go a long ways towards breaking the power of long term incumbents and the lobbyists who buy their votes in Congress. If you see Democrat politicians acting unlike leftists on an issue...... Or 'establishment' Republican politicians acting as they did the other day reneging on their campaign promise to repeal Obamacare...... Follow the money.

    Healthcare at present is a monopoly. Only a select few insurance companies are in it. And as long as they have a monopoly and no competition to speak of, they will continue to make money hand over fist at the expense of both patients and healthcare providers alike.

    Its obvious to me that Ryan and McConnell and the 'establishment' Republicans had no plan in place to follow through on repealing Obamacare in its entirety...... Because they never intended to. The healthcare insurance companies own 'establishment' Republicans by way of the money their lobbyists donate to their campaigns and pet projects to secure their votes. Pretty much the same as Soros has bought and paid for Democrat politicians to ensure they will push his far left anti-American agenda.

    Anyway...... Kudos to the few conservatives amongst Republicans in Congress who stood up to both the Democrats and to the 'establishment' Republicans who were set to sell us out had Ryan gotten enough votes to push his Obamacare revisions through Congress.

    Ryan's plan (which is really Boehner's plan)......

    * Did not repeal Obamacare.
    * Did not include portability of healthcare policies over state lines and open the industry up to free market competition that would end the monopoly of present healthcare insurance providers, thereby lowering cost to policy holders...... And huge profits, some of which are kicked back to 'establishment' Republican politicians for maintaining the status quo.
    * And a lot of other things including defunding Obamacare and dismantling its framework that need to be done to get government the hell out of our healthcare.

    But thanks to a few conservative Republican politicians...... Ryan's (and Boehner's) Obamacare redux failed. Good. This is too important to screw up. Either do it...... And do it right...... Or don't do it at all until it is done right.

    As for Boehner...... Here are his comments from a month ago (please pardon link to the far left Soros controlled website)......

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...blicans-235303

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    'G-d Bless The U.S.A.'...... Lee Greenwood......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_5aoptI5j0

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    Rand Paul and a few other Republicans have a different plan which does replace the ACA, rather than 'band aid' it as most of the republicans (and Boehner) seem to want. But their plan too, if they can sell it to other republicans and a few demos, will likely carry forward 'some' of the characteristics of the ACA. I never understood WHY a healthcare bill (or any other bill) should be thousands of pages long.. The ONLY reason any bill is that long is to discourage congressmen from reading the fine details, and to prevent any 'citizen' from ever getting a chance to read it or understand it.

    PS. Boehner (or boner) is/was one of the worst republicans ever in congress, and certainly was the WORST of the Republican leaders in congress... Most of the time he was there, he seemed to be joined at the hip with Obama... A happy day was when he left that sorry group, but he seems now to have joined an even sorrier group - lobbyists!)
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