Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:48:10 -0500
From: BOB FORD <BOB_FORD@compuserve.com>
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com

THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
JAN 1, 2004

IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.

THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM

THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.

THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.

PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE

1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.

TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.

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IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
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SELLER. BUYER BEWARE.

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WITH YOUR E-MAIL. E-MAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE READ.

THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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From: Editor

I was in a recent discussion with some friends and the subject of fuel
pumps came up. I hope someone
can provide a few answers.

1. What is the advantage of a electric fuel pump if any?

2. Where do you install a electric fuel pump? Near the gas tank or just
replace the regular fuel pump.

3. If you install an electric fuel pump, do you have to bypass the regular
fuel pump? What would happen
if you didn't bypass the regular fuel pump?

THANKS
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:SidChev567@aol.com, INTERNET:SidChev567@aol.com

Sid Jackson
e-mail address: sidchev567@aol.com

Anyone here ever use the Speedway Motors (front) engine mounting plate?
(BB in 55).
Thanks.. Sid. note: I've already installed the dropped center link.
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: Mark C Bach, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com

The Learning Channel (part of the Discovery.com set of cable channels)
will be premiering a new show called "Rides" on Tuesday January 6, 2004
at 9 PM ET/PT. The show is focused on custom cars and the people making
them, including Chip Foose, Roy Brizio, Troy Trepanier and Rod Millen.
It promises to be an entertaining look at the car culture and is a must
see -five wrenches - recommendation.

Check out http://tlc.discovery.com/fansites/rides/rides.html for more
info.

As usual check your local listing and prepare your VCR!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "LISA LEWIS", INTERNET:JIMANDLISALEWIS@msn.com

I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A FRAME OFF RESTO ON A 56 CHEV 210. WHAT I WOULD
LIKE TO KN OW IS WHAT REAREND WILL BOLT IN WITH OUT SHORTENING SAME OR
RATHER THE EASIEST REAREND SWAP WITH THE LEAST TROUBLE AND THE BEST
RESULTS? THIS IS MY FIRST RESTO AND WANT IT TO BE THE LEAST CONFUSING. I
HAVE A 70 POSI OUT OF A MONTECARLO, BUT IT IS TOO LONG. I WOULD LIKE TO
STAY WITH A POSI IF POSSIBLE. THE STOCK REAREND IS LEAKING AND
QUESTIONABLE. THANKS SO MUCH JIM
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: "Jeff Wilson", INTERNET:jwilson@unctv.org

Hi all- I've got a an original 57 283 block that I'm thinking of
rebuilding....

Do I have to get an original crank to go in it, or will any model year 283
crank work?

How about the cam?

Is any particular model 283 crank better than the rest (stonger? Lighter?)
or are they
all about the same?

CJ Wilson
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:MARY66170@aol.com, INTERNET:MARY66170@aol.com

Hi everyone I was just looking for a roof for a 55 56 or 57 sedan
delivery or nomad or if anyone knows how to get one or has one in decent
shape for
sale please send me an e-mail to rangerjd01@aol.com with a price and I will
get
back with you.

thank you a lot
J Davidson
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD

John Lingenfelter passed away on Christmas day ... Here is the web-site
announcement:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/jlstat2.asp

For an example of his work, check out "America's Fastest Corvette" found on

this web page:
http://www.lingenfelter.com/LPEinmedia.asp

He sure left his mark, especially for us Chevrolet enthusiasts.
Doug Mill
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Michael J. McDonough", INTERNET:m477@midwest.net

Hi Bob
I'm looking to replace a couple of parts on my car. The ones on my car have
small dings on them. I need a left (driver's side) front fender spear and a
left (driver's side) quarter panel insert for a 57 Belair 2drht. if any one
has these parts they would like to sell that are priced reasonable please
let me know. As usual Bob you do us a great service.
Thanks
Mike
M477@Midwest.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com

FOR SALE>> '57 (& '58?) 6cyl upper water neck (radiator hose nipple) $5;

'55 BelAir 4dr interior door panel trim $15; '55 4dr sedan right rear
outer
wheel house (spotwelds to inner wheelhouse), includes rear flap $20;
'55/'56
150/210 bare steering wheel $20.

Wyatt S. Smolick
Coopersburg, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: "'BOB_FORD@compuserve.com'", BOB_FORD
From: "Knopp, Tom", INTERNET:tknopp@cmpd.org

you are correct. the license plate on the back of the 55 reads GLD-204.
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "Mike Novins", INTERNET:mike@calwest-radiators.com


END OF THE YEAR SALE.


55-7 Chevy RADIATORS NEW 3 ROW ( HEAVY DUTY )$ 199.95 PLUS UPS.

THE NEW 15 " CLASSIC ORIGINAL TYPE STEERING WHEELS FOR $ 295.00 PLUS
UPS CHARGES.

OVERFLOW TUBES $35.00 ( 2 X 10, 2 X 13 )

BOWTIE RADIATOR CAPS $ 18.00 PLUS S & H.

CALL FOR MORE STUFF OR CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE AT WWW.
CALWEST-RADIATORS.COM (800)535-2034
MERRY XMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
BIG MIKE
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Charlie", INTERNET:chas108@3rdm.net

The last time I ate some of these was at a place called Legal Seafood in
Boston. Odd name for a restaurant. Anyone in that area know why it is
called Legal Seafood.

BOB

Bob, I ate at a Legal Seafood back in the 80's. My wife and I were living
in
Cortland NY at the time and went to Boston to visit friends who moved to
Florida not long after our visit. Our daily transportation was a '57 - 150
2-door sedan. Nothing fancy, a 283, 4-speed, all in gray primer, but it was
a
'57 Chevy and that was good enough for me. We took many trips all over
the Northeast in that car. Makes me long even more for the day I can have
my '57 Handyman finished and be driving it. Anyway...as I recall, Legal
Seafood's slogan explains its name.

"If it isn't fresh, it isn't Legal".

Just one problem with us inlanders eating at places like that: Once we're
back home (home today is Pittsburgh), we have to wait about 6 months
before we can go to Red Lobster...arguably the best seafood restaurant
in our area. The stuff you get on the coast is SO fresh that it makes what
you get around here taste like fish sticks by comparison.
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To: "Bob Ford", bob_ford
From: "Bruce Jacobs", INTERNET:bruce_bj@swbell.net

Bob,

Can you or anyone else tell me where the timing indicator is put to set up
on a '69 350 Chevy engine?
It is in my '56 Chevy BelAir.

Thanks for the help, and the wonderful newsletter.

Bruce Jacobs
bruce_bj@swbell.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com, INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com

Add to the list of fuel injection rebuilders George Swartz in Cincinnati,
Ohio. George does beautiful work, but I don't know about the cost of
rebuilds. He
can be reached at G&L Classics, 513-779-1957. Happy Holidays! David Browe,
Cincinnati, Ohio
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JRACOSTA@UP.COM, INTERNET:JRACOSTA@UP.COM

hello sir, do you know of any way to restore the hideaway headlights on a
1968 caprice, i have a 68 ht, and it came with the z/24 kit, i have all
the sport options but i don't know if i should make the hide always in to
electric?
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:stressed@lafn.org, INTERNET:stressed@lafn.org

Here is another geographical teaser:

Using all 50 states, geographically what states are the farthest north, the
farthest south, the farthest east, and the farthest west?

This is one of my favorite mind teasers.

Good Luck

Irv, 57 Chevy 4 door Red and White Belair, Tustin, California
Happy Holidays

Editor's note. Think longitude and latitude.
BOB
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:lou1@westnet.com, INTERNET:lou1@westnet.com

bob

hi! merry Christmas.

had to add some tranny oil to my '57 two speed p-glide. the filler hole was

very inconvenient. maybe it could be reached if car was put on a lift. but
to
do it myself was wondering if some sort of pipe or tubing could be screwed
or
mounted in or on the filler hole so it makes adding oil easier. maybe i can

clamp a piece of hose onto the filler tube and plug the open end? if there
is
no tube but just a hole then it's tough to mount something without welding
i
suppose. seems that this is something that would take experimentation or
playing around with. any ideas?
thanks

louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CHEVYLUV57@aol.com, INTERNET:CHEVYLUV57@aol.com

BOB, CAN U RUN THIS REQUEST FOR ME? I NEED A SOLID TRUNK LID FOR A 2 DOOR
CAR, FULL SIZE 1965 CHEVY--MUST BE FROM A 2 DR. CAR. THANKS CONTACT:
chevyluv57@aol.com
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Lenny Schaeffer", INTERNET:d56chevy@comcast.net
Date: 12/25/2003, 7:38 AM

BOB

Because the first Legal Seafood was in the business district near the
courthouse...

HAPPY HOLIDAYS to ALL

Lenny Schaeffer
Custom Classics Appraisal
Bearing Burners Car Club of MA
Burlington MA

781-365-1322
D56chevy@comcast.net

MY WEBSITE:
http://d56chevy.home.comcast.net

MY CLUB WEBSITE:
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/bearingburners/
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:STINGJIM@aol.com, INTERNET:STINGJIM@aol.com

I am looking for a 55-56-57 Chevy Wagon. Nomad would be nice. No projects.

Email Stingjim@aol.com Lubbock, Texas. I need pictures and info on the car.
Be
sure your Subject Line in your Email has Chevy Wagon in it or I won't open
your email.
Thanks
Jim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:mross@frontiernet.net
From: INTERNET:mross@frontiernet.net, INTERNET:mross@frontiernet.net


Hello to Everyone and happy holidays,

As a winter project I would like to install factory air conditioning in my
57 Chevy convertible. I have many of the parts already but I still need an
A/C COMPRESSOR & BRACKETS and any other A/C parts that go directly on the
engine. Also any advice that anyone has in regard to this project would be
appreciated. I'm located in Rochester NY and my email is
mross@frontiernet.net.

Thanks
Mike
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ilovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Ilovemy56@aol.com

WHEN I CROSSED THE BORDER FROM DETROIT TO WINDSOR LAST YEAR ON
MY
WAY THE CCI CONVENTION IN CONN., BEING CONSERVATIVE, I WOULD SAY THE LINE
OF VEHICLES ON THE WINDSOR SIDE TRYING TO ENTER THE U.S. WAS AT LEAST 2
MILES
LONG !!!!!!!!!! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ilovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Ilovemy56@aol.com

> From: Editor
>
> Happy Holidays to everyone. I hope you find a Red 57 Fuel Injected
> Convertible under your tree on Christmas day.
> BOB
>
Merry Christmas to you & your family too, Bob !!!!!!! Actually,
I
would even settle for a TURQUOISE ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Charlie Schneider, INTERNET:cmschneider2@optonline.net

Hi Bob, This is for David W. who asked about the color of the Exhaust
Manifolds on the original 265 V8's. David, they were left NATURAL, not
painted or coated. Hope this answers your question.
Charlie S. 55 conv.Original, 58 P/U modified.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Mike Oatman, INTERNET:mikeoatman@yahoo.com

Merry Christmas to all the Tri-5 gang..
At the risk of creating hate-mail, which I promise is not
my intent, I just wanted to comment on the current
discussion of (2dr) "post" cars vs hardtops. In general, I
concur with Marc Bach's comments... however, It's been my
experience, and I think it should be pointed out, hardtop
cars that are restored as bone show room stock very well
might demand a higher value to that sort of collector, (my
Dad would be one of these guys..) but it seems, hardtops do
not add any value to the hot-rod crowd. Again, it's been
my experience, sedan (post) cars simply drive, and handle
better. If you don't believe me, (by the way I've done
this) just step out of a 2dr sedan, and jump into a
hardtop, and you will "feel" a huge difference. Not only
wind noise, but general body tightness and solid road
manners. It's also been my experience, not just a few, but
MANY people who attend car shows or cruise-in's, will
comment about my '55 2dr post, tell me they "like the post
better".. I believe there are some subtle reasons for this.
First, the front windshield on a sedan car is about 1+"
taller than a Nomad, convertible or hardtop.. yep, I'm
right about this, believe me. Also the rear glass is at a
different angle, and I believe is a different part number.
Look also at the deck lid area between the bottom of the
back glass edge, and the top edge of the deck lid.. on the
hardtop the distance is MUCH farther apart. These small
things simply change the entire roof line between the cars.
In my opinion, a slammed, well done "post" car simply
looks much better than the same car if it were a hardtop.
I could go on and on.. but, suffice it to say, 2 dr sedan
cars, well done, and with the right "look" will not only
appreciate as fast as a hardtop, but I believe could
hold/add even more value...

As far as 4-door cars go.. They are NOT my cup-0-tea..
unless you were building a true grocery-getter "driver",

Ok.. please no hate mail!!!
Mike Oatman
mikeoatman@yahoo.com
55 2dr sedan.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Sam Huey", INTERNET:shuey@hot.rr.com

Bob , do you or any of your members know what rear end ratio is designated
by the code AB. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,, Thanks ,,,,sam
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Mark C Bach, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com

To "Bob" asking if the mint workers make a lot of money:

In all seriousness, the mint's police force are VERY highly paid. Since
they are paid with your-our tax dollars, you would be amazed at their
benefits.

In all jest, the mint workers are highly paid but only if they take their
work home with them!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:Dover57@aol.com
From: Mark C Bach, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com

To Frank with the radiator problem:

If it overheats only at idle I would try the following;

1) Swap the thermostat to a 160 degree unit. There is LOTS of
discussion about the usefulness of this switch but it cooled my 350 down
a bunch !
2) The fan should be around halfway into the shroud - too much or
too little defeats the purpose.

Mark in AZ

Editor's note. Has anyone had any experience with Red Line Water Wetter?
Does it work?
BOB
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>From Editor:

Some interesting information.

Pontiac Polaris, by Aflan V. Lacki. Did you know that Pontiac almost built
its own version of the
Corvair? Well, it's true. In 1958, GM's Corporate Office tried to pressure
Pontiac Motor Division
into accepting the Corvair as the basis of its own early 1960s compact car.
GM Styling went so
far as to build a prototype, named the Pontiac Polaris.

Basically, the Polaris was a'60 Corvair sedan with wide headlight bezels
and oval taillights;
styling cues taken from the full-size '59 Pontiac. Pictures published in
the February 1987 issue of
Collectable Automobile confirm that, aside from these cosmetics, the
Polaris was a rear-engine
Corvair under the skin. But a production version of the Polaris was not to
be. On pages 54
through 56 of the controversial book, On a Clear Day You Can See General
Motors, John Z.
DeLorean explained what happened. DeLorean, head of Pontiac Engineering,
and Bunkie
Knudsen, general manager of Pontiac Motor Division, kept tabs on Chevy's
progress in
developing the Corvair, and they didn't like what they saw. Frank Winchell,
now VP of
Engineering, but then an engineer at Chevy, flipped over one of the first
prototypes on the GM
test track in Milford, Michigan. Others followed. The questionable safety
of the car caused a
massive internal fight among GM's engineers over whether the car should be
built with another
form of suspension." When Ed Cole refused to upgrade the Corvair's swing
axle design, Pontiac
Motor Division lost interest in producing the Polaris. In its place,
DeLorean and Knudsen began
to develop a much different compact car: the Tempest.

Today, most people remember the Tempest as the platform for the Pontiac
GTO muscle car, a
conventional GM ox-cart with a high performance V-8. But the original
Tempest, the one
engineered by John Z. DeLorean's engineering department, was anything but
conventional. It was
one of the most radical car design ever sold to the public by a major
American manufacturer.
And, like most innovative GM cars, the original Tempest design was
abandoned as soon as the
company began to iron out its teething problems.

The Tempest was introduced in 1961. Like the Corvair the year before, this
new design received
Motor Trend's Car of the Year Award. Journalists heaped praise on the '61
Tempest because of
its unique features. For one thing, it had perfect 50/50 weight
distribution. And despite it's front
engine/rear-wheel drive layout, it had virtually no drive train tunnel
running through the interior,
leaving lots of leg room for six passengers. Furthermore, the Tempest had a
simple four cylinder
engine for good economy and easy repair.

On paper, it looked like Pontiac had achieved all the advantages Chevy
sought in the Corvair
without the rear-weight bias and complex engineering. How did they do it?

With rope drive! Yes, the Tempest used a flexible, curved driveshaft that
gently arched beneath
the interior to lower the drivetrain tunnel. In principle, the driveshaft
worked like a big, thick
speedometer cable. And to make the drivetrain tunnel even less intrusive,
Pontiac stuck the
transmission in the back of the car, in unit with the differential. So,
like the Corvair, the Tempest
had a transaxle in the rear.

The engine remained up front. And what a strange engine it was! Like the
successful Chrysler
slant six, the Tempest Indy Four was an in-line engine, leaned over toward
one side. Unlike the
Chrysler six, which was engineered from scratch, the Indy Four was simply a
Pontiac 389 V-8
chopped in half.

If you take 389 cubic inches and divide by 2, you get 194.5. And that was
exactly the size of the
Tempest Indy Four: 194.5 cid. This was the biggest four cylinder car engine
offered anywhere in
the world. Like most really big fours, the Indy Four vibrated badly. Even
DeLorean admitted that
the Tempest "rattled so loudly that it sounded like it was carrying half a
trunkful of rolling
rocks." That's where the Tempest miracle began to unravel.

The Tempest not only had a loud buzzy engine. It also had swing axles.
Ironically, the Tempest's
rear suspension was a virtual duplicate of the early series Corvair
suspension that DeLorean
despised. And to make matters worse, Tempests came exclusively with skinny
15 inch tires.
Ostensibly, the large diameter tires gave "greater ground clearance and
better tire wear", but they
also raised the center of gravity. So Tempests didn't stick to the road
very well.

Rope-drive Tempests were built from 1961 to 1963. In 1963, Pontiac face
lifted the Tempest
with a really attractive new body. And Pontiac began equipping Tempests
with a smooth-running
326 cid V-8. That solved the problem with the loud buzzing engine. For
those who insisted on
four cylinder economy, the Indy Four was upgraded with more horsepower.
Other improvements
included a 20 gallon fuel tank, Delcotron alternator, wider track, and
more, all standard
equipment. There was talk of revising the rear suspension with
double-jointed half-shafts, much
like the second series Corvair. But in 1964, Pontiac threw in the towel,
making the Tempest a
mechanical clone of the Chevy Chevelle, Oldsmobile F-85, and Buick Special.

Maybe Pontiac should have gone ahead and built the rear-engine Polaris
after all. Years later,
John Z. DeLorean, the father of the Tempest, left General Motors and
started his own car
company. He produced a sports car called the DeLorean DMC- 12 and it had
the engine in the
rear, just like the Corvair.
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end of 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
VOICE 714-637-8877
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I plan to live forever, so far so good