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  • TriChrome
    Ghost in the Machine
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    02/15/2004

    Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
    Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:49:08 -0500
    From: BOB FORD <BOB_FORD@compuserve.com>
    To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com

    THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
    FEB 15, 2004

    IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.

    THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
    AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
    LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

    TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
    BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM

    THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
    ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.

    THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
    WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
    SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.

    PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
    POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE

    1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
    2 THE PRICE
    3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.

    TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
    FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.

    YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.

    IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
    PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.

    THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
    NECESSARILY MINE. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EDIT OUT ANY MATERIAL NOT
    APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST.

    PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME AS THE LAST THING ON YOUR E-MAIL.

    IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
    NO WAY OF KNOWING THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT OR THE HONESTY OF THE
    SELLER. BUYER BEWARE.

    BECAUSE OF THE DANGER OF A VIRUS, PLEASE DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS
    WITH YOUR E-MAIL. E-MAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE READ.

    THANKS
    BOB FORD
    EDITOR
    __________________________________________________ ____________________
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com, INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com

    What a great note from Little South Fork Ranch, I have two 55's ,a red and
    white 210 Delray purchased from Boyd Coddington, with the motor from the
    Boydster II in it, and a over the top 55 belair with a polished jag rear,
    polished
    aluminum drive shaft , a polished 700R4, polished LT1, polished stainless
    exhaust , etc, etc , and I wouldn't part with either one for less than a
    $100,000.
    In fact I was offered over a $100,000. for the Boyd car. He's right , you
    just
    can't find good ones any more and it will only get harder and harder to
    find
    them. It's not like some other cars that are being reproduced in glass,
    these
    are real steel priceless classics, that are rapidly increasing in value
    everyday as they sit in our garages... jc
    -------------------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: INTERNET:OLDCARS55@aol.com, INTERNET:OLDCARS55@aol.com

    Bob,

    Here are the items that may be of particular interest to list members which
    I
    listed this afternoon and evening on eBay.

    1957 Chevrolet 283 cubic inch, Power Pack (4 bbl.) engine with original
    Powerglide transmission, Rochester Quadrajet carburetor oil bath,
    generator,
    starter and differential pumpkin -- power steering hoses, hydraulic
    cylinder and
    front suspension parts (item # 2460247563). All of the casting numbers on
    the
    heads, block, transmission and rear end housing match for a car constructed
    in
    January, 1957. It was removed from an original project car where owner
    changed
    mind on power plant and drive train in the middle of the restoration.

    Nice set of five 1956 Chevrolet original 15" wheels with five full-sized
    wheel covers in 1956 paint scheme (item # 2460256349).

    An even nicer set of five 1957 Chevrolet original 14" small slit wheels
    with
    five full-sized wheel covers (item # 2460259961).

    Original 1956 Chevrolet 265 cubic inch 4bbl. intake manifold, original
    Rochester Quadrajet carburetor and tall style oil bath air cleaner (item #
    24560311374).

    Nice pair of 1956, 265 cubic inch exhaust manifolds (item # 2460321236).

    All of these items belong to my friend and sometimes mechanic, Bob Maurer
    who
    lives in Chandler, IN. He has been restoring Tri-Five Chevys for the
    better
    part of his entire life and a little over a year ago rebuilt the front
    suspension on my little ol' '55 Palomino. I can vouch for his honesty,
    integrity and
    all of these parts are in great shape.

    Serious buyers are encouraged to email me for details, reserve prices and
    phone numbers. All of these items carry reasonable reserve prices (priced
    to
    sell, actually) and we may be listing other items in coming weeks.

    There is another item that maybe someone along the list can tell me
    something
    about. He has another 283 cubic inch motor which has heads with casting
    marks that say X-58. Someone a few years ago told him that these heads
    were used
    on 1958 Fuel Injected 283s. Does someone along the list know -- is this in

    fact the case? Are these heads rare? If so, they may be more valuable
    than
    the other engine. We have no idea and would like to know more about these
    heads
    before trying to sell them on eBay.

    As always, you continue to do a remarkable job and I always thoroughly
    enjoy
    reading every edition of this list.

    Thanks so much,

    David Scott Coker
    Evansville, IN
    oldcars55@aol.com
    (812) 423-0403
    ------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: "MikeKy55", INTERNET:mikeky01@insightbb.com

    I had a link to a supplier in PA somewhere and my hard drive had a stroke
    last week resulting in my losing all my links and documents I had saved.
    The supplier sold 55 56 57 chrome hood striker plates for (if memory
    serves?) 29.95.
    If anyone knows the place, please respond. Thanks in advance.

    Mike
    Louisville Ky
    ------------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    CC: [unknown], INTERNET:lazyhranch@centurytel.net
    From: INTERNET:Marty28447@aol.com, INTERNET:Marty28447@aol.com

    In a message dated 2/11/2004 9:30:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
    BOB_FORD@compuserve.com writes:

    To: Mike Hess - Bob's Radio and TV, 238 Ocean View, Pismo Beach, Ca. 93449
    805-773-8200does Classic radio conversions, rebuilding and repair. I got an

    estimate to have my 1955 Chevy's Wonderbar radio converted to AM/FM Stereo
    with
    CD/tape Mp3 input jack cost $555. Or to just overhaul my Stock Wonderbar
    costs
    $300.
    email: tubehead@worldnet.att.net
    web site: www.bobsradio.com

    I first heard about this in a recent article in Classic Chevy World
    magazine, but I have not had any work done by them so can't recommend them.
    This
    is just for you information.

    Two other radio repair places: 1) Charles Siegfried's Radio Repair
    707-823-7927 Sebastopol, ca. www.nadjaart.com/charles/

    2) Vintage Radio Restorations http://nostalgiasounds.com/index.html ,
    Newberg, Oregon 503-538-2392

    Please let me know if you have any work done by any of these.
    Kim
    --------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: INTERNET:WILLYHUAZ@aol.com, INTERNET:WILLYHUAZ@aol.com

    Hi Bob,
    Thanks for the list, always look forward to getting it. I had a 57 with a
    283 with a 1960 Rochester Ram Jet HP F.I. unit on the engine for 18 years.
    It
    was a Black Bel Air Sport Coupe. After the injection was rebuilt by Sam
    Reid
    in Stockton, California the only adjustment I had to do was when it turned
    hot
    in Modesto I simply adjusted the air metering screw. It always ran great
    and
    I loved that singing noise it made. Most people didn't have any knowledge
    of
    how the F.I. worked, so the easiest thing to do was take it off and throw
    some
    carbureation on the engine. I remember watching a mechanic at Cleveland
    Chevrolet in Port Orchard, Washington use a Manometer system to tune a 57.
    The
    F.I. cars were fast and could hold there own with any 57 cars at the drags.
    As
    so as I sell my 62 Bel-Air 409, I am going to build another FI 57 Hdtp.
    Bet I
    won't find any injection unit for a grand this time around.
    Thanks,
    Bill Hughes
    120 Heysman Rd.
    Selah, Wa. 98942
    willyhuaz@aol.com
    --------------------------------------------------
    To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
    From: "Floyd Albright", INTERNET:fastimage@comcast.net

    I'm putting together my 55 Chevy HT and find that both of my quarter window
    motors have bad armatures.
    Can anyone recommend someone that can repair these armatures or has good
    working motors for sale ?

    I'm also looking for a pair of 61-64 Cadillac power vent motors and
    regulators - or the internal gears for these motors.

    Thanks,

    Floyd Albright
    fastimage@comcast.net
    ------------------------------------
    To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
    From: "Bob Talley", INTERNET:talley5@jps.net

    55-57 USED PARTS

    55 4 dr rear quarters
    120

    55 2 dr BA left side mldg, 2pc
    80

    55 V8 acc oil canister
    100

    55 splash pan, nice
    50

    55 fender extensions
    20

    56 2 dr HT rt doors, bare
    400

    56 210, BA side mldgs
    25-60

    56 V8 2 or 4 bbl air cleaners
    120

    57 4 dr SW doors
    75

    55-56 1 pc ft/rr bumpers
    100-250

    55-56 hood hinges, pr
    40

    55-56 Wonderbar radio
    200

    55-56 V8 engines, intake down, cores 200-300

    55-57 SW liftgate
    150

    55-57 SW tailgate
    200

    55-57 hoods/deck lids
    75-200

    55-57 fenders
    100-300



    All parts rust free, selling from 30 year collection. Parts plus shipping.
    Many other 55-64 used parts not listed email talley5@jps.net. Bob Talley,
    410 Pine Street, Yreka, CA 96097 (530) 842-4880 eves only 6-10PM Pacific
    time.
    -----------------------------------------------
    To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
    From: "Chevyfordodge Chryslerambleracer", INTERNET:funcars4us@hotmail.com

    Bob, This is for Lyle and Paul who are thinking about fuel injection. I am
    just finishing up an installation of the Holly throttle body electronic
    system. Here are some things to know about this install;
    The adapter plate for the throttle body will not work an a stock 55,56,57
    four bbl manifold. I modified the plate by doing some heli-arc welding and
    machining. I also machined an adapter so the original air cleaner could be
    used.
    A return line to the fuel tank is required and both lines connect to the
    rear of the throttle body so I ran two new lines from the tank up to the
    right rear of the engine keeping it all away from the exhaust, starter,
    trans. cooling lines and wiring. Then I added a second fitting at the tank
    opposite the fuel pickup to prevent turbulence from fuel coming and going
    in the same spot of the tank. *Have a qualified welder add the new tank
    return! The system needs inputs from water temp so you must be able to put
    the temp sender someplace. On an original small block there is no place to
    put this so I used a later model thermostat housing with a 1/2" pipe
    threaded spot. Next item is the o2 sender. You need to drill a hole into
    one of the exhaust pipes close to the exhaust manifold and weld in the bung
    supplied in the kit. I put the o2 sensor on the right side pointed to the
    rear of the car. This placed it close to all the wires that run up to the
    throttle body and back to the controller. The controller needs to be
    inside the car not under the hood. These electronic things don't like harsh
    environments! You need to make a hole big enough to get a bundle of wire
    about the diameter of your thumb through the firewall. Mount the controller
    someplace where you can get to it because it is adjustable and anyone can
    tune this system! The BEST part of this system is that it can be adjusted
    for best performance!
    How does my system perform? HeHeHe,,, Well, I am doing a lot more work on
    the car including a complete engine rebuild, trans. rebuild, single wire
    alternator, all new wiring, brake upgrade and just at the point of putting
    the engine back in next week. But it sure is a nice looking unit but it
    takes plenty of time and money to get it set up. Ask me in a couple months
    how it is working out!
    Rod in the Napa Valley, Ca
    55 Handyman
    56 210
    57 210
    57 BelAir 2 door hdtp
    57 Convert
    -----------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: "Ruth & Ralph Braly", INTERNET:energy@chatt.net

    Hey Bob,
    I hail from the civil war foothills of the great state of Tennessee. I
    am a politically incorrect type of guy. Please put me on yor e-mail list. I
    just bought a 1957 Cashmier blue convertible with that ole' contiental kit.
    Wanted one since I was 14 years old.
    Thanks,
    Ralph Braly

    energy@chatt.net
    or rlbraly@tva.gov
    -----------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: "Bob and Clarice Hurst", INTERNET:churst@cox.net

    FOR SALE POWERGLIDE TRANS. Date Code: C156

    4600 mi. on rebuild. Complete with all hardware to install, including
    starter and solenoid , torque converter, flexplate, yoke, spacer ring,
    etc. I took it out to convert to a 700-R4. It operated fine...up shift,
    downshift .... no slippage........but we take it on long trips, and
    wanted the overdrive. WILL DELIVER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA . . .
    .asking $950 (remember, it comes with everything to install,even linkage
    and fill tube)

    Bob Hurst 619-286-6955 San Diego. .. . home most anytime (retired)
    ....call anytime... churst@cox.net
    ------------------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], INTERNET:termitec4@hotmail.com
    CC: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: "Bob and Clarice Hurst", INTERNET:churst@cox.net

    Scott,

    in addition to Chevys ,I own a '62 corvette that I had blasted . as you
    know,they're fiberglass and most media blast material will remove the
    gelcoat real fast!!!!! It's not cheap,but I and many of my buddies swear
    by this process.
    advantages:
    no heat........................................theref ore no warping of
    panels.........as in sandblasting.
    no damage to stainless................if you don't chose to remove it
    all.
    better control of media................operator can actually remove
    only paint and leave original primer.
    will not remove powdercoating...if you are doing a body that happens to
    be on a powdercoated chassis.

    Don't know where you are.....but I'm in San Diego. I had it done up in
    orange county. don't remember company name, but if you are interested, I
    can find it
    for you . price......my car was done about 8 yrs ago.......was
    $950.......but my car had been painted seven times without any coats
    removed . So it's a time and materials thing. Mine took 12 man-hours.

    hope this helps you. feel free to call me if you have any questions. I'm
    not real good on this typing crap!!!!!! I'm a car guy!!!!! not a
    typist!!!!

    bob Hurst 619-286-6955

    e-mail churst@cox .net
    ----------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
    From: INTERNET:HCARCRAZY@aol.com, INTERNET:HCARCRAZY@aol.com

    I am trying to find a 1956 Chevy convertible to restore.....roller to
    complete needing restoring. HELP!



    W. Hovis


    hcarcrazy@aol.com
    --------------------------------------
    To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
    From: "Bill Kautz", INTERNET:kautz@comcast.net

    Hi Bob,
    There is a very long list of first-year model cars that had problems,
    including the '55 with the 265 small block. (Remember the Bon Ami story?
    Mechanics were told to pour Bon Ami cleanser through the carb to help seat
    the rings as the early 265s used a lot of oil.) Then there were all the
    problems with the Turboglide trannys and fuel injections in '57. I had a
    '60 Corvair, (first year for Corvair), that was recalled for having fan
    belt problems due to the pulleys being too small. There was also a problem
    with the valves sticking after about 40,000-50,000 miles. I also had a '62
    Ford Fairlane, (first year for that mid-sized car), that spent a lot of
    time in the dealer's shop for warranty work. It even came with a slightly
    bent drive shaft!
    As for the list of fuel injected cars, Al Sirk mentions a '57 fuelie 4
    door hardtop, with Turboglide, that was in Canada. It's possible that the
    list of Canadian-built Chevies wasn't included in the list you posted. That
    list may have been just US built cars. It's also possible that Tom Ordway's
    '57 Chevy BelAir 4 door wagon was built in Canada or had the fuel injection
    installed at the dealer's when it was new. Tom is correct in that Sedan
    Deliverys were not listed as automobiles, rather as trucks.
    Lastly, for Don Szerencits, who is looking for a '57 Vauxhall Victor,
    Hemmings has a '58 Victor listed but it's in Oregon. Ph-541-928-9744. You
    can also try Kip Motor Co., in TX, as they handle lots of Vauxhall parts
    and may have something restorable. kipmotor@aol.com or www.kipmotor.com
    Again, Bob, thanks for this forum! Wild Bill
    --------------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com, INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com

    Two Comments for the next list, Bob:

    Firstly, with respect to your comment or advice (received years ago) about
    not buying a new vehicle design in the first year after it comes out. Not
    only
    is THIS sound advice, but it also follows if one looks at major components
    as
    well. For example, it is best to avoid the first year of a new engine, even

    where the remainder of the car (body, chassis, transmission, final drive)
    is/are
    carry-over. Similarly, best to avoid the first year of a new transmission
    as
    well.

    Certainly there have been some designs that debuted with minimal problems,
    but the odds were - and continue to be - against it.

    Certainly if nobody had purchased a new Chevy in '55, none would be around
    to
    collect today. But, there are always some people who just have to have
    something that represents the newest and the latest. In truth, the early
    '55 Chevy
    265-cid V8s had a bit of an oil consumption problem. And, the bodies were
    known
    for being very rust-prone in the salt belt (especially the front fender
    eyebrows and the quarter panels where they came up against the rear
    wheelhouses).
    These area were addressed as time went on. The first Chevy Vegas were a
    disaster, as were the first Chrysler "Ultra Drive" 4-speed automatics with
    overdrive
    (recall that even the name got scrapped to deal with this faux pas). The
    early
    '65 GM GM "B" and "C" bodies had water leaks that you wouldn't believe (I
    can
    recall these even as a GMI student at that time). I could go on at length.

    By the way, did anyone ever notice that the Japanese typically introduce a
    new model and restrict it to the home market for a year before introducing
    it in
    North America? Smart move: by the time it reaches our shores most of the
    early bugs are long gone - and their reputation for great, trouble-free
    machinery
    is intact.

    Secondly, Don Szerencits asks where he might locate a '58 Vauxhall.
    Although
    these were, indeed, marketed in the US, they are scarce as hens teeth. They

    were also marketed in Canada though, and one still sees a few as collector
    vehicles up there. I'd suggest that Mr. Szerencits contact a Canadian
    publication
    by the name of Old Autos in Bothwell, Ontario (Phone 519-695-2303 / Fax
    519-695-3717) and see about placing a "Wanted" ad.

    And please check carefully for rust: these Vauxhalls are well-known for
    major
    problems in the areas where the front suspension mounts are attached.

    Keep up the great work!

    Roy N.
    -------------------------------------
    To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
    From: "Paulie Cananoli", INTERNET:coolnotes@hotmail.com

    Yeah Dave,

    I found springs thru Moog Engineering, here's a page I found on the net
    with
    some specs:

    I believe they can set you up, I gotta pair for my 57 that were the factory

    heighth butta bit stiffer.
    Good Luck and hay, ain't this list great!?
    Thanks Bob for all you du.
    Paul
    ____________________
    To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
    From: "mross", INTERNET:mross@frontiernet.net


    Hello Everyone,

    Does anyone know where I can find a set of original or reproduction A/C
    compressor brackets for a 1957 Chevy. I understand that someone is
    reproducing these brackets, but haven't be able to find out who. Any
    information would be greatly appreciated. You can email me at
    mross@frontiernet.net or phone 585-223-7151

    Sincerely

    Mike, Rochester NY
    ----------------------
    From: Editor

    Does anyone know if coach builders still exist. That is, if I have a
    chassis, can I find a company to build a coach for that chassis? My guess
    is if they still exist, you would have to won the lottery to pay for it.

    If you have any interest in the history of Personal Computers PCs, you will
    like the book "In Search of Stupidity" by Merrill R. Chapman. It is very
    funny and very sad at the same time.

    With marriage very much in the news now, (every Sunday new program today
    was talking about it), here is a little brain teaser that you might enjoy.
    Do you think it is legal for a man to marry his widow's sister in
    California?
    BOB
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    end of 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
    BOB FORD
    18091 MARK CIRCLE
    VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
    BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
    VOICE 714-637-8877
    FAX 714-637-2955
    Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
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