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    Not about power steering

    Has anyone swapped the steering arms from side to side and if so what was the result?
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    The result is the tapers for the tie rod ends will be upside down. What result are you looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chevynut View Post
    The result is the tapers for the tie rod ends will be upside down. What result are you looking for?
    No they wouldn't be upside down but I don't really care about the tapers anyway. I want to change them so that the tie rod end faces to the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasracer View Post
    No they wouldn't be upside down but I don't really care about the tapers anyway.
    If you swap left for right and right for left, you have to turn them upside down so the ends point inboard.


    I want to change them so that the tie rod end faces to the front.
    You didn't say that before, but that won't work. The Ackerman would be totally screwed up. It would make more sense to just turn each side around so the tie rod connections were pointing outboard and forward but that probably won't work either. That's the way the C4 spindles and steering arms are.

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    56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension

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    What are you trying to achieve? If you want a front steer system (steering system in front of the axle centerline) you need a completely different front cross member to make it work right. A Tri-five frame would not work with a front steer system without a lot of mods since it was designed to work with a rear steer system.

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    Chevynut,
    Thanks for that diagram! People have tried to explain Ackerman Angle to me before, using words, and I never really got it. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words! Thanks, Doug
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    To add a little bit to this, the Ackerman effect makes the inner wheel turn a bit farther than the outer. The wheels actually toe out. This makes the tires roll free in a turn because the outer tire traverses a larger radius.

    If you had Ackerman backwards (steering arms pointing out if behind the spindles or pointing in if in front), one or both tires would drag through a turn.

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    Well, if I was road-racing this deal then the above would be really important. But I am also not sure that changing the angle that minor amount would have that great an affect on the the turning ability. What all of this lacks is no one here has actually tried it - so I will either succeed with what I want to do or it will fail. Looking at the Vette stuff is pretty close to what I am thinking of doing and it might take some aftermarket steering arms to accomplish it rather than using the stock pieces. I will know one way or the other by winter this year.
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    You might do ok circle track or road racing with less Ackerman in some situations, but I don't think backwards Ackerman will work on anything. Just my thought. The tires will squeal.

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