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Thread: The President's Border Security Speech

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    Quote Originally Posted by busterwivell View Post
    Dems don't want any restrictions, they need the guest voters.
    Not only that, but the Democratic party has turned very liberal and progressive, to the point of full blown socialism. They have hidden their agenda for decades, but with most of the news media covering for them, they are starting to show their true colors, AOC and Bernie Sanders, for example. Their endgame is to flood our country with millions of poor, uneducated Central Americans, and in turn make the USA as much of a 2nd world country as possible, where a large majority of Americans is dependent on the government for something. At that point, Democrats will win every election, from dog catcher to POTUS. State and federal governments will grow to enormous proportions, controlling every facet of our lives, and taking just about every dollar we make. For the Democrats, permanent ruling power over us is their ultimate goal. Scary scenario, isn't it?
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    Why are liberal democrats so intent on making things as in third world countries? They have absolutely no ability to reason what’s so ever. Logic is not a process they use in everyday thinking. It makes me wonder how liberal democrats can function at all. Taxes in all the liberal states is a joke. They try to solve everything with others peoples money, while the freeloaders get everything for free. Socialism DOES NOT WORK.

    I find it hard to comprehend that any American could support any of these ridiculous liberal ideals. Must be a lot of stupid people in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmvette View Post
    Taxes in all the liberal states is a joke. They try to solve everything with others peoples money, while the freeloaders get everything for free. Socialism DOES NOT WORK.
    It really irks me when people say they get freebies "from the government". They don't seem to realize the money is coming from their neighbors, friends, and everyone else who works for a living or pays taxes out of their retirement savings or social security. Every time I hear it I'm going to continue to remind them of that fact.

    I had a relative (wife's side) state on FB a few months ago that we need fewer "successful" people in the country and more people who "care about the earth". I told her it would be better if we had more successful people and fewer "losers" (she has no job and relies on taxpayers to live but I didn't call her a loser directly ). She came back and said it's the "rich assholes" she hates. I'm pretty well off, probably rich to her, and I reminded her that the "rich assholes" pay the majority of the federal income taxes to cover for those who don't pay anything to support their fair share of their government. I told her that the top 1% pay 42% of all federal income taxes, and the top 50% pay 97% of them.....the bottom 50% pay 3% of federal income taxes and the bottom 40% pay ZERO and some even get a "refund" of something they didn't even pay. It's just "backdoor welfare" (the EIC) and I believe it should stop so we see the real cost of welfare.

    To those who whine about the "rich" and businesses getting the biggest benefit of Trump's tax cuts I remind them that it's the rich who pay most of the taxes, so they should get the biggest cut. I was just talking to a friend who owns a large concrete business last night and he told me he was able to hire one more guy from the tax cut money he got.

    I find it hard to comprehend that any American could support any of these ridiculous liberal ideals. Must be a lot of stupid people in this country.
    Yes, about half of the population.....those on the left. They're the ones who voted for the Democrat. Thank God they didn't win.
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    Here is what you need CN...

    The costs incurred in Colorado paid by state taxpayers, due to illegal immigrants!

    http://www.fairus.org/sites/default/...lorado2013.pdf

    In Alabama it's a little less. In 2013, in California, the costs was was over $25 BILLION. Is it any wonder the state cannot pay it's bills? Every state suffers from this and it is getting worse every year.

    It's WAY past time we had border security!!

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    "In his 2016 report, Plante spoke to Chris Harris from the National Border Patrol Council. In his report, Harris told him barriers are effective in conjunction with agents and infrastructure. Harris also told him that illegal immigrants would tell agents the reason they were coming over our southern border is because … wait for it … former President Obama said they could come. Yes, you read that right, too."

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/loca...der-walls-work
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    Yes, just one of the things that Obama did to further his aim of 'destroying the USA'....

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    I haven't been able to figure out how the left (especially the media) can justify what BHO, Killery, Chuck-U, Nasty-Nancy, and others have publicly said about building a wall and securing the border in the past. It is such a clear example of brazen partisan politics.

    And what about the "shovel ready" jobs we had to pay for? Where did that money go? Seems to me, this is a shovel ready job. And finally, let's stop paying other countries to be our friends... where we are not getting a return on investment.

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