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  • Dave the Wave
    Registered Member
    • Jul 2020
    • 253

    #16
    if you need to find new collars, just collars, let us know where to locate! THANX!!!

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    • markm
      Registered Member
      • May 2012
      • 3471

      #17
      Tom shows several choices for 8.2 axles on site.

      Why K.A. Axles?
      Because we got sick and tired of buying axles that were too loose of a fit on the side gears or
      wouldn't fit at all, excessive end play, .005 - .008 is desired, compromising of heat-treating so
      axles could be cut and splined after manufacturing. Cost! Etc.
      We decided there had to be someone who could make axles in United States of America, at an
      affordable price that would work like their supposed to! K.A. of course.
      K.A.'s are manufactured of 1541 material with rolled splines "to insure the correct fit" C.N.C.
      machined and then induction heat-treated to our demanding spec's. We then 100% inspect for
      spline fit, correct lengths, end play ect., to assure you the highest quality axle with
      consistency that you can count on. No Hassles, No ifs ands or butts!
      Advantages!
      You have an axle that has been correctly heat-treated, fits like you need it to, is super
      tough, doesn't kill your budget and normally ships the same day it's ordered.
      Disadvantages
      We don't make individual custom pairs, As all axles are done in production runs.
      Thanks for listening, thanks for your support and remember Buy American!
      L

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      • Dragsix
        Registered Member
        • Jul 2020
        • 97

        #18
        Nick the axle is fine. The rings get loose for a couple of reasons. One, it was reused during a prior bearing install. You cant really re use them without tack welding the rings to the axle. Second, the axle has had a number of bearing replacements and the axle bearing race on the axle is on the loose side of the required interference fit tolerance. Another reason, you put so much side load on the rear axles, like coming off an interstate exit at high speed, that the bearing presses it self off (more common then you think and yes, I did it once, and my best friend did it twice with his 57 which is when we had a old school racer tell us what to do to solve the issue, yep, tack weld the rings, lol.) So to get you by for the time being, repress the bearing and ring and tack weld the ring until you get your new axles.).

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        • markm
          Registered Member
          • May 2012
          • 3471

          #19
          Dragsix, An old racer/ machinist/welder who knew more about building driveshafts and narrowing rear ends than anyone I have ever knew told me the same thing.

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          • Nick_nl
            Registered Member
            • May 2013
            • 25

            #20
            Dragsix,
            These axles were bought used and the previous owner upgraded to a ford 9 inch. I've already removed the bearing and found rust, that could indicate the press fit wasn't enough anymore. The high speed cornering might be true, i like to take corners fast So the new ones have to be welded.

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            • Dragsix
              Registered Member
              • Jul 2020
              • 97

              #21
              If you are getting new Moser axles, I don't think you will need to tack the retaining rings in place. In fact, I myself would not. Mine rings are not and I am pretty hard on my axles. I would only do it on old original GM axles.

              Markm, I was lucky. I grew up in an area where the local speed shop and machine shop was somewhat nationally known and sponsored all manner of east coast and west coast racers (Frantic ford, Jim Lieberman). One of the men involved with the Frantic ford was Jim Fox and he was a machinist at the machine shop. He was a very quiet man but if he took the time to tell you something, you were wise beyond your years to listen and follow his advice. Those guys had dozens of work arounds for all kinds of issues. One time, when I was breaking my axles at the drag strip, they walked me through swaping in Chrysler 8.75 side and spider gears into a Chevy rear, and the two Mopar axles you needed to get at the junk yard to use for better axles. I was young and those guys were headed for retirement. So I was lucky enough to be the beneficiary of some of what they knew. So many of them are gone now and to some extent, a great deal of what they knew went with them.

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              • markm
                Registered Member
                • May 2012
                • 3471

                #22
                Kampy - Copy (2).jpg

                This is my old buddy's car that is Hilborn injection for a big block Mopar grafted to an Offy 2x4 intake, Car originally had an Olds rear swapped to a Dana 60. He also owned and operated his own dragstrip in addition to his successful welding and machine shop. He is also the one who got me hooked on running Dana 60s, having built my first one with 8 3/4 Mopar axle ends and brakes. Early Olds ends were his first choice, but I had none at time. He preferred to heat wheel bearing retaining rings to install them. This car still exist as shown in picture, that used to be a 62 409 with 2x4. When I started racing in the 70s it had a Q-jet. When I first remember this car it had a clutch-turbo 400 in the 70s and 80s. I ran one of the old 3500 pound roller assisted Borg & Beck clutches from this car in my Camaro back then.
                Last edited by markm; 10-23-2020, 07:24 PM.

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                • Dave the Wave
                  Registered Member
                  • Jul 2020
                  • 253

                  #23
                  this looks like an injected 409. how kool!

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                  • bigblock
                    Registered Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 270

                    #24
                    Dave I thought the seem thing.

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                    • markm
                      Registered Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 3471

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Dave the Wave
                      this looks like an injected 409. how kool!
                      I was born a 62 409 with 2x4s but it now has a 427 crank around 472 cubes.

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                      • Nick_nl
                        Registered Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 25

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dragsix
                        If you are getting new Moser axles, I don't think you will need to tack the retaining rings in place. In fact, I myself would not. Mine rings are not and I am pretty hard on my axles. I would only do it on old original GM axles.
                        I'll pass on Moser. They offered axles with the wrong bearing even though I specified RW307R bearings.
                        I did find a local company that could metal spray the axle to build up the bearing surface.
                        They only want my to specify the correct dimension with tolerances. The bearing is 1.378 inch (=35.0012mm) id.
                        What would be a good axle size?

                        thanks,

                        Nick

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                        • markm
                          Registered Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 3471

                          #27
                          Moser is not the only game in town, did you call Toms, I did this week shopping for 12 bolt spiders and side gears for a 4 series Posi. There are others besides them too.

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                          • Nick_nl
                            Registered Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 25

                            #28
                            Yes, I have contacted Tom's and Dutchman. Tom's isn't good for international shipping, shipping alone costs more than the axle pair. Dutchman doesn't give me a quotation.
                            I did find doctor diff on ebay his shipping rates are pretty good.
                            so far the Mopar guys seem to like his axles.

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                            • Dragsix
                              Registered Member
                              • Jul 2020
                              • 97

                              #29
                              Try south east chevy. https://www.southeastchevyparts.com/...ine_p_175.html I know he ships over seas, I am pretty sure he told me one time he ships individual parts, a container of parts over seas, multiple buyers get together or something like that. check with him. That is where I purchased my axles.

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                              • markm
                                Registered Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 3471

                                #30
                                I missed the international part, I am sure that make this more difficult.

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