Interior design feedback

[chevynut]

Okay, there's over 2500 views of my "pouring foam" thread and only 5 replies, all suggestions about how I should build my panels differently. :( I am pretty certain that given the shape of my panels, and the difficulty of attaching foam sheets to them, the pour foam is the best way to approach this.

How about giving me some feedback on what you think of my design. The silence has me a little worried about where I'm going with it. I know it's nowhere near stock nor is it "old school" but I wanted a more modern interior in my car to match the overall theme of a modern classic. Any comments? What would you have done differently?

Here's the overall design concept that has evolved slightly over time:

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The upper dash will be padded charcoal leather, and there will be charcoal leather on the top of the side panels with charcoal carpet below. The balance of the side panels will be tan leather. The lower dash will be painted, but I'm not sure if it will be the exterior color, charcoal, or tan. there will be a valence under the dash. The interior guy wants to cover the interior beltline moldings with leather too, but I'm not sold on that just yet. What do you guys think?

As the design evolved, the side panels now look like this:

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The areas above the armrests and below the charcoal are going to be perforated tan leather, to break up the large tan area by introducing a different texture. Two 6.5" speakers are behind the speaker grilles which will probably be stainless. The seating areas of the seats will also be perforated tan leather. I may put a small charcoal accent panel in the seat backs, but that might be too busy.

Here's a pic of the colors, with the charcoal leather and the two choices of tan...not sure which one yet...any input? One is just lighter than the other. The exterior of the car will be something like the orange shown here, with tan/beige or similar on the rear of the car.

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The carpet will be a charcoal wool carpet from a late-model Mercedes. The headliner will be charcoal wool material from the same car. Here's another pic showing the seatbelt material, carpet, and headliner along with the leather. I'm wondering if the carpet and headliner are too dark now. I don't want black, but I don't want "gray" either. :confused:

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The cargo area will be completely covered with a removable cover. The top of the cover will be charcoal and tan leather. The lower cargo area under the cover will have charcoal carpet as will the tailgate. I think the tubs will be charcoal leather. Here's the design of the cargo cover and "package tray" area. There are two 6x9 speakers in the top.

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As far as construction goes, the side panels are aluminum with two removable sections each. This is done to ensure a "crisp" line between the sections. Here's some pics of the side panels so far, front and rear. I have finished the rear panels since this pic was taken.

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The 6.5" front speakers are mounted to the door and the door panels are relieved to accept them. There will be a pair of tweeters in the headliner. Here's what the rear seat area looks like:

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The plywood bases will be cut down to fit by my interior guy when he covers them to match the front buckets.

Tell me what you guys think of the design and colors so far. Thanks!

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

I thank it looks great!!!! Nice design work and sketch also. I'm only offended that you put an olds Rocket logo on a Chevy LOL. Just kidding.
This is only my opinion but one of the things I always liked about a nomad was the back seat folding flat making it a 2 seater of course 4 door wagons do that also so nothing special about that just something I wish to retain. You are not the only nomad builder improving the back seat style and comfort with a custom interior so to each his on. Overall it looks really nice. I like the burnt orange or copper color on the 56 nomads as well. No complaints here.

Rocky

[chevynut]

Thanks for the feedback Rocky.

Olds Rocket logo? What's that? You mean the fender bird?

http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/56nomad_.dsfrt1.jpg

http://www.realdealsteel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/MH-66-1024x494.jpg

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

I guess olds copied chevy those bastar... LOL

[NickP]

To me, FWIW, the Tan is too bland and will not blend and flow with your design. JMHO.

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

I'm thanking with Nick maybe a third color is needed.
But what ever you decide IMHO the dash and belt line should match however you decide to mix it. If dash is charcoal leather so should be belt line all away around if you want a soft modern feel or more paint and mixed color if you wish to mix old style with new. Many options at this point.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/rockytoppers1/cnutpnls.jpg (http://s282.photobucket.com/user/rockytoppers1/media/cnutpnls.jpg.html)

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

I'm sorry how are you finishing the outside? Semi original with 2 tone and trim or would make a difference in my choice but FYI I dig the perf leather. I did that with perf vinyl in my cutlass seats and door panels and its solid black and works nicely.

[chevynut]

Rocky, the exterior will be mostly stock-looking with the stock 2-tone Bel Air paint scheme. It will have all the stock trim and emblems, with the only obvious modification being the smoothie bumpers and different wheels.

I have thought about bringing in the orange into the interior on the dash valence and the top of the console. Thanks for the photoshops, they really help! One of the reasons I had the bottom of the dash charcoal is so it flowed with the top of the door panels. Can you do one with an orange valence? Also, note the little quarter circle on the door....I thought I'd carry the valence into the door panel.

It seems like if I made the beltline trim orange, the TOP of the dash would have to be orange, not the bottom. The way you show it, the colors "cross" at the door jamb. I'm kinda liking the padded charcoal leather dash.

Nick, what would you do differently? I see a lot of cars with all tan interiors, and I though the charcoal and perforated leather would help break that up. We looked at using an orangish leather in the interior but it just didn't work. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

[JT56]

If I was going with a modern look, the door panels look killer to me. Not sure about the dash...I guess the padded dash thing just hasn't hit me yet. i can tell you I struggled with my interior colors. I thought about the tan shades with my exterior color, but glad I decided to try and match the exterior. Many compliments from others on that.

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

Hope this helps.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/rockytoppers1/cnutpnl2.jpg (http://s282.photobucket.com/user/rockytoppers1/media/cnutpnl2.jpg.html)

[chevynut]

JT, thanks. One issue with matching the interior color to the exterior color is if you ever decide to change the exterior color you're very limited. My interior guy brought an "orangeish" piece of leather he thought would look good. However, neither of us liked it. I know tan is pretty neutral but I really like some of the new car interiors.

Do you have pics of your interior?

Here's what I consider a nice, clean look. The last one is a custom Camaro interior by the Recovery Room.

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[NickP]

Rocky, the exterior will be mostly stock-looking with the stock 2-tone Bel Air paint scheme. It will have all the stock trim and emblems, with the only obvious modification being the smoothie bumpers and different wheels.

I have thought about bringing in the orange into the interior on the dash valence and the top of the console. Thanks for the photoshops, they really help! One of the reasons I had the bottom of the dash charcoal is so it flowed with the top of the door panels. Can you do one with an orange valence? Also, note the little quarter circle on the door....I thought I'd carry the valence into the door panel.

It seems like if I made the beltline trim orange, the TOP of the dash would have to be orange, not the bottom. The way you show it, the colors "cross" at the door jamb. I'm kinda liking the padded charcoal leather dash.

Nick, what would you do differently? I see a lot of cars with all tan interiors, and I though the charcoal and perforated leather would help break that up. We looked at using an orangish leather in the interior but it just didn't work. I'd appreciate your thoughts.

It may be the monitor here, but the "TAN" you depict seems almost white or a pail cream in color. When I think of tan, I think of an old baseball glove that has been well kept, not brown nor the orangish tan but more like a sadle tan. I do like the design but just cant wrap my arms around the starknes of the tan - to much contrast I think.

[chevynut]

Hope this helps.

Thanks Rocky! Seeing it sure helps decide. I do like the way the beltline charcoal flows into the dash better in that last desgn. The side panels actually won't have the diagonal bars in them, as we decided not to do that. I do like the look though.

In your second picture, with the orange inserts in the door panels, I like the idea of bringing the color in. However, I'm not sure there's a leather that would match or complement the exterior color. This is the closest thing to "orange" I've ever found:


http://www.hotrodandrestoration.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Ridler35Int.jpghttp://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/383448/DSC_1725-1_detail.jpg


http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-0/p160x160/309261_449393918457553_426607101_n.jpg

[Rick_L]

I agree with NIck's comments. The tan (at least as shown on my monitor) is too light. You can get a darker shade without getting into the "orange" look.

This is similar to the thought that you wouldn't use white to 2 tone with the copper color you've chosen for the exterior of your car.

I also think a 3rd color would make things too busy, especially considering the sculpting.

[JT56]

http://www.trifivechevys.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1356&thumb=1&d=1395510871http://www.trifivechevys.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1358&thumb=1&d=1395510867

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

They had bronze leather back in the day on the turbine car
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/01/25/chryslers-bronze-blowtorch-the-experimental-turbine-car-turns-50/ (http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/01/25/chryslers-bronze-blowtorch-the-experimental-turbine-car-turns-50/)

I really like the color schemes for the king ranch trucks quick google search
https://www.google.com/search?q=ORANGE+AUTOMOTIVE+LEATHER&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&biw=1280&bih=552&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NM8JVI2KGc_FggTp9IGwCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&tbm=isch&q=FORD+KING+RANCH+INTERIOR&imgdii=_ (https://www.google.com/search?q=ORANGE+AUTOMOTIVE+LEATHER&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&biw=1280&bih=552&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NM8JVI2KGc_FggTp9IGwCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&tbm=isch&q=FORD+KING+RANCH+INTERIOR&imgdii=_)

Here is an orange from the ford lineup mixed with grey.
http://image.motortrend.com/f/2012_ford_expedition/41985576+ppromo_mt_large/front_seats.jpg (http://image.motortrend.com/f/2012_ford_expedition/41985576+ppromo_mt_large/front_seats.jpg)

[JT56]

The few changes I did to mine; Tuck and Roll on the door panel not just vertical pleats, removed the button and seam on the front and rear seats. Finally, I used the darker color on the top of the arm rest instead of using the lighter color. I thought about dirt and just wanted to change it up a little.

[JT56]

I really like the color schemes for the king ranch trucks quick google search
https://www.google.com/search?q=ORANGE+AUTOMOTIVE+LEATHER&rls=com.microso ft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&biw=1280&bih=552&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa =X&ei=NM8JVI2KGc_FggTp9IGwCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#rls=c om.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&tbm=isch&q=FORD+KING+RANCH+INTERIOR&imgd ii=_ (https://www.google.com/search?q=ORANGE+AUTOMOTIVE+LEATHER&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&biw=1280&bih=552&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NM8JVI2KGc_FggTp9IGwCQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&tbm=isch&q=FORD+KING+RANCH+INTERIOR&imgdii=_)

Agree, one of the nicer interiors in pickups!

[chevynut]

Rick, thanks for the comments. You're right on about my thoughts on using white with the orange...it's too "stark" and cheap looking. An ivory or platinum color works much better and makes it look richer.

As for the tan color, the ones shown are two different colors. There is actually more of a difference between them than it looks like in the pics. I was starting to lean toward the lighter one, but it sounds like maybe the darker one works better. It's close to the color of my caddy seats now but a little more brownish. These pics might show the color difference a little better. I hate to go much darker than this. Notice the tan in the pics above is a lot lighter than this.

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I also wondered about being too "busy" with another color inside, especially large panels of it. I've shied away from making it too much of a two-tone interior too as I think it would get a little to busy and "dark" with too much charcoal. I think accents of a third color would be nice, but not too much of it.

One thing to keep in mind is the door grab handle "spears" are chrome and they have a walnut wood-grained insert below them. I thought about leaving them wood grain but I'm not so sure about that. I would have to wood grain more than that, and I'd have to add wood to the dash and the console to make it look right.

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But wood is maybe not where I want to go with it. I have considered covering the wood-grained pieces with carbon fiber, and add some carbon fiber acents other places inside the car like on the dash and console. The wood makes it look more "luxury" and the carbon fiber is more "sporty" looking. I think carbon fiber is nice looking.

I'm considering making custom dash inserts to match the chrome grab bar spears, as well as some chrome trim pieces on the console. I just want the theme to flow throughout the car.

Here's a new Audi with the carbon fiber. I can get it in other colors if I want to....even orange.

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My brother is a wood-worker and he stained this piece of burly maple he sent to me. It's an awesome looking piece of wood, and the grain "moves" when you turn it and it looks almost 3D. He said he could stain it orange if I wanted it and make it thin enough to use as a veneer. Again, not sure I want wood inside the car.

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[chevynut]

JT, I like your interior colors and design. It does go well with the exterior colors.

One thing I don't want is brown. It's going to be hard to move toward a copperish orange color that complements the exterior orange without getting into browns, imo. I do like this color, but not sure if I'd want it in my Nomad. And I don't want a "pumpkin" orange either.

http://www.fordtruckclub.net/forum/photopost/files/2/2/4/user18896_pic57759_1268537205.jpg

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

I personally think your on the right track with the cream leather. Just my opinion but note the car you posted. A cream color interior like you have chosen would look much better than a brown color. You can see it in this car the brown don't match at all.



Thanks for the feedback Rocky.



http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/56nomad_.dsfrt1.jpg



http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/rockytoppers1/cream356.jpg (http://s282.photobucket.com/user/rockytoppers1/media/cream356.jpg.html)

[chevynut]

I personally think your on the right track with the cream leather. Just my opinion but note the car you posted. A cream color interior like you have chosen would look much better than a brown color. You can see it in this car the brown don't match at all.

That's the problem we had with the "orangish" leather sample my interior guy brought up. It just didn't go with the exterior color at all. I've seen red Ferraris with the "orangish" buckskin color interiors and I thought it looked bad.

I don't think these colors go well together either, but maybe it's just me:

http://image.streetrodderweb.com/f/events/1207sr_2012_don_ridler_memorial_award_winner/37921519/1207sr-01-z%2B2012-ridler-award-winner%2B.jpg


Here's a copper exterior and interior but it's not orange....

http://hubgarage.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/170247/IMG_1282_detail.JPG

I think these two colors are similar to the samples I have but my charcoal may be a little darker.


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[JT56]

Dont think you would want your interior to be "louder" than the exterior mods of your car. I would stay away from the browns just my .02

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

This was a very nice 55 at GG event a few years back.

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/rockytoppers1/gg7.jpg (http://s282.photobucket.com/user/rockytoppers1/media/gg7.jpg.html)
But I really like the softness of this lighter shade of cream.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk243/rockytoppers1/DSC07780.jpg (http://s282.photobucket.com/user/rockytoppers1/media/DSC07780.jpg.html)
Only problem with light is it shows dirt if you plan to drive her much.

[chevynut]

One thing I have learned is that the small leather samples always look darker than the same color in a full interior. When my interior guy gave me the tan samples I thought the darker one was too dark. I really liked the color of his wife's Tahoe interior, and when we compared the darker sample to it, it was almost identical. And you're right about getting too light and seeing every little smudge mark.

[chevynut]

Here's a pic showing my two leather samples against my caddy headrest. I think the caddy color is called "neutral shale". You can see the difference in shade and my two samples are slightly more tan or brownish instead of grayish.

Also shown is the 2000 caddy interior. They had one called "oatmeal" and the other called "neutral shale" which was also offered on the DeVille. The oatmeal was the lighter one.

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Pretty sure this is oatmeal.
http://cimg.carsforsale.com/371456/83723819-0192-48B8-ABE5-2176019CAD1E_12.jpg

This is also oatmeal:

http://images.dealerrevs.com/gallery/photo.php?id=38886997

Mine is the shale color, and I think this is too:
http://api.hollandersolutions.com/Assets/Y/BANDROR/Part/4840562/Image/1

SO is this one:

http://images.gtcarlot.com/customgallery/interior/59782736.jpg

http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd352/deadgnat/01devillecolors.jpg

[rockytopper R.I.P 5-13-2017]

This is a nice collection of trifive interiors you may or may not have already seen this. There are some close to what your looking at doing.
http://imageevent.com/camposr1/carstuff/tri5interiors?p=67&w=1&c=4&n=0&m=42&s=0&y=1&z=3&l=0 (http://imageevent.com/camposr1/carstuff/tri5interiors?p=67&w=1&c=4&n=0&m=42&s=0&y=1&z=3&l=0)