TriChrome
03-06-2018, 11:20 PM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:19 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT
HAS E-MAIL AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING A LIST MEMBER, ASK THEM TO
JOIN. THE MORE LIST MEMBERS WE HAVE, THE MORE INFORMATION LIST
MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
I ENCOURAGE ALL LIST MEMBERS TO INCLUDE THEIR CITY AND STATE WITH
THEIR POSTS. IF YOU ARE POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO
INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND THE PRICE. IT IS HELPFUL TO ALSO
INCLUDE WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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From: Editor
At a swap meet recently, I saw a 57 Bel Air for sale at a very reasonable
price. I talked to the owner
and he told me a very strange story. Knowing that you should not believe
everything a seller tells you when they are trying to sell a car, I thought
I would pass it along to list members to see if it could be true.
The man told me that he had a 57 with an excellent body, no rust or any
other problems, but the motor and tranny were both shot. He also told me
the front end needed major repair and the steering was also beyond repair
on his 57. His every day driver was a 90 Caprice which was in excellent
shape with low miles but the roof had major damage. It seem this man was
in construction and he parked his car next to the construction project he
was working on. An commercial air conditioner was being lifted to the top
of a building to be installed when the wire from the crane with the air
conditioner broke and the air conditioner fell on his car (sort of like the
Home Improvement show when Tim let a pole drop on his Nomad). The
construction company had insurance that paid him the total blue book for
the car and let him buy the car back from them for $100.
He had the car towed to his house thinking he would give it to a local
college auto repair program and take a tax write off for it (my guess is
that he would value the car given to the college at a lot more than $100).
When the 90 Caprice and his 57 Bel Air were setting side by side, he
wondered how hard it would be to put the good body of his 57 on the good
frame and motor of his 90. He said much to his surprise, the mounts were
at the exact same location on the 90 as they were on the 57. He told me he
took the body off of the 90 and sold it to a junk yard, then he took the
body off his 57 and mounted it on the 90 Caprice. I looked under the car
and it did not look like the body mounts had been moved.
The engine looked like a 5 liter V8 with fuel injection. The tranny was a
700R4. The power steering and bakes (front disk) looked like they were
correct for a 90 Chevy. The air conditioner looked like standard
GM air conditioner.
Does anyone know if indeed a 57 body will find on a 90 Chevy frame.
BOB
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com
Bob
I offer you this quiz for the next issue. Maybe you could break it
up
and mail out the answer list after two issues?
The Federal Bureau of Investigation keeps track of the various models of
cars for computer entry when stolen. The FBI currently lists 58 unique
models in the Chevrolet line as of 1-1-2000. How many can you name?
Caution - just because it is the FBI doesn't mean they are always right!
Answer
Chevrolet Models
210 Series
300 Deluxe
Astro Van
Bel Air
Beretta
Biscayne
Blazer
Brookwood
C10
Camaro
Caprice
Cavalier
Celebrity
Chevelle
Chevette
Chevy II
Citation
C/K 1500
C/K 2500
C/K 3500
Concours (Chevelle only)
Corsa (Corvair)
Corsica
Corvair
Corvette
Del Ray
Deluxe (Chevelle)
El Camino
Estate Wagon
Express
Fleetline
Greenbrier (Chevelle)
Impala
Kingswood
Lumina
Lumina APV
Luv
Malibu (includes Chevelles thru 1977)
Metro (Beg. Mod Year 1998)
Monte Carlo
Monza
Nomad (Chevelle)
Nova (Chevy II & Concours)
Parkwood
Prizm (Beg. Mod Year 1998)
S10
Silverado
Spectrum
Sportvan
Sprint
Style Line
Style Master
Suburban
Tahoe
Townsman
Tracker (Beg Mod Year 1998)
Vega
Venture
Yep for us tri-five fans, the 150 series is not listed. I have no idea
why, do any of the readers?
EE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Editor's note. Does any one know of any more missing models?
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Shep", INTERNET:shep@bcinet.net
I HAVE 57 CHEVY PRINTS FOR SALE CONTACT ME AT shep@bcinet.net or my web
page at http://www.astroatlas.com/artbyshep/Welcome.htm Thanks SHEP'
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com, INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com
Bob, I am looking for an aluminum intake manifold for a 327 small block. I
would appreciate your listing this request if any one out there has one
reasonably priced, something like an Edelbrock C3BX is what I am looking
for
. Thanks, Don
My phone # is 408-866-8267 in San Jose and my email is DPete57@aol.com
Thanks
Editor's note. Both Jegs and Summit have them new for about $180.
BOB
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To: "'bob_ford@compuserve.com'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Great job on the list Bob.
Regarding the question of glass interchangeability from Rick Stratton, it
doesn't look like station wagon's door glass is interchangeable although a
lot of 55-57 glass is. I found a page that provides a whole list from
Classic Chevy at:
www.classicchevy.com/techfaq.htm <http://www.classicchevy.com/techfaq.htm>
Good luck
Marc Glassoff
Escondido, CA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JCoron1707@aol.com, INTERNET:JCoron1707@aol.com
Yes, Bob I do appreciate your Precious
service unto us all, that love old cars !!
I have a need & need some guidance &
help; I bought an old chevy & its in
Portland OR. I need to transport it to
California a.s.a.p. Its there is a carrier that
can bring it here for me ? Do any body know
of any one that can help me, I don't count
with a lot of money to pay after the purchase
I don't have much left... (714) 385 9197
Joe
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:allen1964@carolina.net
CC: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Donna, INTERNET:Fiftiesforever@webtv.net
Allen and All List Members:
We have brand new show chrome bumpers for your 57 chevy. The front 5 pc.
is $449, and the 3pc. rear is $399. We do not require your old cores. We
also have 55-56 front and rear bumpers for $269 for the 3pc front or
rear. All our bumpers are triple plated with copper, nickel and chrome.
They are beautiful. We have all in stock. We only charge actual UPS
shipping, no additional handling or boxing fees. Thank you, Donna
Fifties Forever
206 Division Ave.
Garfield, NJ 07026
973-478-1306
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DavesJunk@aol.com, INTERNET:DavesJunk@aol.com
from Davesjunk@aol.com does any one have a 55-57 chevy conv that is
restoable
that would like to trade i have one with fact air cond that i don't want. i
don't want the air car but would trade it for a non air conv.mine is a 55
conv. so let me heard from you who want a air car.the car is in Omaha neb.
the trade must be a complete car ....... phone
402-455-3190..........
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Keithchvy@aol.com, INTERNET:Keithchvy@aol.com
Have a set of front coil springs and a pair of four leaf rear springs.
They
are used from my 1957 chevy 210 2 door sedan. These springs were installed
on my chevy 8 years ago, but I have modify my suspension this year.
I also have an original air cleaner assembly from a 1956 chevy 3100 Pickup
for a 235 six cylinder. The metal is in great condition with one or two
very
small dings on it.
Rear leaf springs $35 plus actual shipping
Front coil springs $30 plus actual shipping
Air cleaner $65 plus $10 shipping and handling
Call me at 609-298-4800 ext 283 and leave a message anytime or E-mail me at
Keithchvy@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
Still lots of talk about hardened valves seats. Has anyone actually
experienced
damaged valve seats from running unleaded gas? It sound like lots of
people are
saying you should install hardened valve seats, but no one has offered any
proof
of actual engine failure due to unhardened seats. All heads I have seen
with
messed up seats have been caused by mechanical failure, i.e. piston hitting
the
valve. I have never seen head with seats damaged by unleaded gas.
Here's something to think about for the "heavy use and towing theory."
What
about all of the old gas burning tractors? We have plenty of them here in
Nebraska. My uncle has a 1964 Oliver, he uses it every day to feed cattle.
It
has logged may hours while pulling a plow in the last 36 years. If it has
been
burning Unleaded gas since 1980, its got 20 years on it with no problem!
You
can bet that old binder does not have hardened seats!
I want to hear some war stories about classics blowing apart and leaving
parts all over the interstate after filling up with 87 octane unleaded.
How about something like this: " Last Sunday the wife and I decided to take
a
drive in our $75,000 '57 fuel injected ragtop. We stopped at the local
quickie
mart. I filled up with unleaded for the reasonable price of $1.76 per
gallon.
The wife bought a diet coke and a cosmo magazine. We had driven about 200
feet
when all of the sudden all hell broke loose! The unhardened valve seats
had
failed! This allowed the valves to strike the pistons. Pieces of pistons
and
rods exploded from the engine. This knocked a big hole in the fuelie
unit, gas
poured out everywhere. After a small explosion the wife and I abandoned
the
car. Unfortunately, the car stopped on some railroad tracks. The fire
department arrived shortly after a loaded freight train drove over my
ragtop (I
always wondered what it would look like with a good flame job). All was
lost,
so I thought. My wife had rescued the cosmo from the inferno, after
completing
the cosmo quiz, she informed me that I scored 7 out of 100 for "How does
your
man satisfy you?" I'm still the man I always was - even though my car is
gone!"
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@cujo2.icom.ca
Hi Bob and all. I couldn't resist following up on the very
positive comments in the last list by 'Roy R. Nagel' on
travelling to Canada. Thanks Roy. This is a spring board
for me to once more invite all of our '55, '56, '57 Chevy fans
from the U.S. to attend our annual 'Classic Chevy Reunion', Aug.4
to 6th. We move around the province each year, this year may be
of special interest to you for it is being held in the Niagara
Falls area. I have attended many meets, conventions etc. over
the past 15+ years and have found that one of the biggest advantages
to visiting an area this way is that the local hosts can show you
their 'part of the world' so much better than you going there on
your own with the aid of your 'AAA' maps etc. Not to go on and on,
but don't forget the huge advantage you have with your American
dollars (worth about $1.40 Canadian). Activities include: Early Bird
Wine & Cheese; Show & Shine; Sat. night Dinner & Dance; Tour
of the Niagara Region; Local Cruise Night; Googie Bags, worth the
price of admission and more. Please feel free to e-mail me with all
questions and allow me to pay back for the many times I have been
made so welcome in the U.S.
Regarding the CCI vs BTC conventions; Linda Riggs knows of what she
speaks. She's 'been there done that'. I have been a member of these
organizations for 20 or so years and count the leaders of both as my
personal friends. All, in my view, are first class people. I too think that
some attempts can be made to co-ordinate their conventions, but to be
realistic about it, you have to realize that we are talking here about two
organizations who are each others major competitors. Its not easy to
'be buddys' with the fellow who may be seen as possibly taking 'the
food out of your mouth'.
Finally, lets put the hardened seats thing to rest. I agree with those
who
say, if you aren't soon getting a motor job, don't worry about it. If you
are
looking at getting that motor done, what difference will something less
that
$100.00 make? Do it. Hey, guys (& gals) thanks for your ears. JimJ.
Editor's note. I also would like to say that Canada is a great place for
an American to take a vacation.
The American dollar is very strong when you buy Canadian dollars. The
best view of the Niagara Falls is from the Canadian side. Take the boat
tour and get into the falls. It is a lot of fun.
My experience at Toronto a few years ago was very positive. A very clean
large city with friendly people and you can speak the language. Toronto
is a short drive from Niagara. In Toronto, go the top of the CN tower.
It gives you a great view of the city.
BOB
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Tamara Tresko, INTERNET:twtresko@pacbell.net
Hi --this is a question to Jerry's movie below.. It was the movie with
Robert Mitchum called "Thunder Road"?????? Right??? Wonderful movie..
*G* Tammy
From: INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com, INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com
I was "flippin' the channels" last nite, and came up short when I saw a
B&W movie with '57 Chevy police cars! Took me awhile to figure out to go
to the
Preview Channel to see what was playing...it's a 1957 movie , with the star
driving a '57 Ford, basically a Kentucky moonshine runner , he wrecks alot
of the Fords, the '57 chevies stay pretty intact. :) Got some nice shots
of
alot of '57 Chevies in the movie, some as plain undercover 4-door sedan cop
cars, others as marked units. I watched over half of the movie 'til the
end, I'd say it was worth buying for anyone's car flick collection. Just
thought
I'd pass it on.
Jerry Casper
Woodbridge VA
Drives a Pacer wagon now...'57 4-dr still in garage awaiting engine after 9
years...
twtresko@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5732
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1656
www.AngelsBridge.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Harry Jenkins, INTERNET:hkjenk@erols.com
Bob,
This is for both Louis and Ken:
I went to high school in New Jersey and in my senior year (1961-2) I got
my drivers license and a bought a 1958 Thunderbird with a 460 cu. in.
Lincoln engine. On Saturday nights we ALWAYS used to fill up with "white
gas" (Amoco), prior to the prospect of doing some street racing near the
Adventurer Car Hop, because it made the car run better. So the "white
gas" from Amoco was at least available on the East Coast at that time
and already had a reputation and a loyal following. I still burn it
today in the family car, my street rod, '55 Nomad, and '55 Bel Air
Sedan.
Harry
P.S. Bob- Great list!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Warren Kramer", INTERNET:wrkchevy@hotmail.com
Bob,
When our club hosted the midwest convention 3 years ago, CCI told us the
dates and would we be willing to host it. Hotel/Motel availability had
nothing to do with their decision.
Also, these organizations should consider MAJOR shows and swap meets.
Iola,
WI is the same time as Bow-Tie and CCI.
These organizations should work together instead of working in a vacuum.
Warren
P.S. - I'm going to Iola.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "John Cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
G'Day Bob, Please include this in your next list on 55-57 Bits.
WANTED RH & LH SIDE REAR CURVED GLASS IN GOOD CONDITION FOR A 57 CHEV 4
DOOR WAGON, WILL PAY FAIR PRICE , IF YOU CAN HELP OUT PLEASE REPLY. WOULD
BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD ARRANGE & QUOTE APPROX COST TO FREIGHT TO
LUBBOCK TX. AREA . REPLY TO ... email... john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
THANKS JOHN. 11 April 00.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
rich
> Great point Louis, I get so mad when I go to So. Calif. VERY RARELY do I
> pull
> into a gas station where they speak good English, if any. In 1961 I
worked
> for a Mobile Station in East L.A. & I'll tell you, If you didn't have
your
> UNIFORM clean & ready, you best not even show up for work.!!!!!!!!
i suppose that there are probably some group of people complaining that
uniforms are demeaning and may have sued some companies.
+ we
> didn't just sit on our a_ _ _s & collect money, we WORKED for it. EVERY
car
> that came in for gas whether a fillup or just a bucks worth, we at least
> cleaned their windows & asked if they would like their water & oil
checked.
in 1961 we still had high standards.
what's really sad about our country is that when you look at almost every
survey about math, reading and other educational skills we are among the
lowest of all industrial countries.
louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:TMCPK57@aol.com, INTERNET:TMCPK57@aol.com
Bob: The Rocky Mountain Classic Chevy Club of Denver, Co. will be putting
on
their 19th. Annual All Chevy Day on June 17th. 2000. The location of the
show will be the Holiday Inn at 120th and Interstate 25 north of Downtown
Denver. Currently we have 30 classes of cars and trucks to be judged.
Registration is from 7:30-10:30 AM. The judging starts at 11:00 AM.
Trophy
time approximately 3:30 PM. There will be Tee-shirt sales, many door
prizes
throughout the day also raffle prizes and fun. There will be food and
drink
vendors on the grounds. Car entry fee is $25.00. Pre-registration will
receive one free Tee-shirt along with their goody bag. Dash plaques for
all
cars attending. Send pre-registrations to R.M.C.C.C. P.O.Box 18882,
Denver, Co. 80218-0882 Information can be obtained by calling Mel Dyson
@303-695-8322 or Gale Hatley @303-289-6187 or President Ted McArthur
@303-659-2598 General admission $2.00 All proceeds go to CHILDREN S
HOSPITAL. Come and enjoy the Fun. Ted
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
18 issues of car magazines 1990-1994 for sale. 14 issues of Car
Collector, 1 issue of All Chevy, 1 issue of Super Chevy, and 2 issues of
Cars & Parts. Some highlights: 53 Dodge Coronet, 57 Buick Roadmaster 75,
62
Olds Starfire, 58 Buick Century wagon, 64 Chevelle, 54 Cadillac Eldorado,
58
Pontiac Bonneville, 62 Pontiac Super Duty, 64 Impala SS409, 69 GTO Royal
Bobcat, 59 Olds 88, How to: 58-61 tri-power systems, 61 BELAIR convertible,
55 Buick, 56 Pontiac station wagon. Much much more! All issues in
excellent condition; nothing torn out, no rips. $10.00 for all
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:rixrex@ddc.net
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Rick,
Yes, the rear curved glass and tailgate glass is interchangeable from
'55
to '57. The windshield is the only difference between '55/'56 and '57.
Make
sure glass from a 4 door wagon is being used on a 4 door wagon! Two door
wagon glass differs from a 4 door wagon, except for the tailgate which is
the
same.
Wyatt Smolick
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Thanks to Richard and Donna for replying to my question regarding original
'56 chevy electric wiper arms and blades. Yes, the arms are polished and
look beefier than conventional '55 or vacuum arms. "DELCO" is stamped on
the
underneath. Now the metal blades which hold the rubber squeegee have
"ANCO"
stamped into them and aren't as polished as the arms. They have 2 tiny red
buttons to release the rubber. My dad's '59 Corvette has original wiper
arms
and these same metal blades (also have "ANCO" on them). As far as both of
us
know, these blades are original. Are they? The arms definitely are. I
actually picked these assemblies up on EBay and they were labeled as
"original '56 Chevy electric wiper arms/blades". Thanks...
Wyatt Smolick
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Jeff Wilson, INTERNET:jwilson@unctv.org
Will a 292 cid inline 6 fit in the place of a 235, specifically
in a 57 sedan?
I have info on someone with a running 292 for sale, and
the 235 in my 57 is on it's last legs.
Sounds like a opportunity, BUT I've been told that the 292
is about 2 inches TALLER that a 235.
Hence I'm worried that it won't even fit under the hood....
Have any of you tried this or know someone who has?
I've heard that the overall length of the engine and the motor
mounts positioning is the same....
CJ Wilson
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BOB_FORD/
http://members.home.net:80/rick.b/Bobford.htm
VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 7:19 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT
HAS E-MAIL AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING A LIST MEMBER, ASK THEM TO
JOIN. THE MORE LIST MEMBERS WE HAVE, THE MORE INFORMATION LIST
MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
I ENCOURAGE ALL LIST MEMBERS TO INCLUDE THEIR CITY AND STATE WITH
THEIR POSTS. IF YOU ARE POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO
INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND THE PRICE. IT IS HELPFUL TO ALSO
INCLUDE WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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From: Editor
At a swap meet recently, I saw a 57 Bel Air for sale at a very reasonable
price. I talked to the owner
and he told me a very strange story. Knowing that you should not believe
everything a seller tells you when they are trying to sell a car, I thought
I would pass it along to list members to see if it could be true.
The man told me that he had a 57 with an excellent body, no rust or any
other problems, but the motor and tranny were both shot. He also told me
the front end needed major repair and the steering was also beyond repair
on his 57. His every day driver was a 90 Caprice which was in excellent
shape with low miles but the roof had major damage. It seem this man was
in construction and he parked his car next to the construction project he
was working on. An commercial air conditioner was being lifted to the top
of a building to be installed when the wire from the crane with the air
conditioner broke and the air conditioner fell on his car (sort of like the
Home Improvement show when Tim let a pole drop on his Nomad). The
construction company had insurance that paid him the total blue book for
the car and let him buy the car back from them for $100.
He had the car towed to his house thinking he would give it to a local
college auto repair program and take a tax write off for it (my guess is
that he would value the car given to the college at a lot more than $100).
When the 90 Caprice and his 57 Bel Air were setting side by side, he
wondered how hard it would be to put the good body of his 57 on the good
frame and motor of his 90. He said much to his surprise, the mounts were
at the exact same location on the 90 as they were on the 57. He told me he
took the body off of the 90 and sold it to a junk yard, then he took the
body off his 57 and mounted it on the 90 Caprice. I looked under the car
and it did not look like the body mounts had been moved.
The engine looked like a 5 liter V8 with fuel injection. The tranny was a
700R4. The power steering and bakes (front disk) looked like they were
correct for a 90 Chevy. The air conditioner looked like standard
GM air conditioner.
Does anyone know if indeed a 57 body will find on a 90 Chevy frame.
BOB
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com
Bob
I offer you this quiz for the next issue. Maybe you could break it
up
and mail out the answer list after two issues?
The Federal Bureau of Investigation keeps track of the various models of
cars for computer entry when stolen. The FBI currently lists 58 unique
models in the Chevrolet line as of 1-1-2000. How many can you name?
Caution - just because it is the FBI doesn't mean they are always right!
Answer
Chevrolet Models
210 Series
300 Deluxe
Astro Van
Bel Air
Beretta
Biscayne
Blazer
Brookwood
C10
Camaro
Caprice
Cavalier
Celebrity
Chevelle
Chevette
Chevy II
Citation
C/K 1500
C/K 2500
C/K 3500
Concours (Chevelle only)
Corsa (Corvair)
Corsica
Corvair
Corvette
Del Ray
Deluxe (Chevelle)
El Camino
Estate Wagon
Express
Fleetline
Greenbrier (Chevelle)
Impala
Kingswood
Lumina
Lumina APV
Luv
Malibu (includes Chevelles thru 1977)
Metro (Beg. Mod Year 1998)
Monte Carlo
Monza
Nomad (Chevelle)
Nova (Chevy II & Concours)
Parkwood
Prizm (Beg. Mod Year 1998)
S10
Silverado
Spectrum
Sportvan
Sprint
Style Line
Style Master
Suburban
Tahoe
Townsman
Tracker (Beg Mod Year 1998)
Vega
Venture
Yep for us tri-five fans, the 150 series is not listed. I have no idea
why, do any of the readers?
EE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Editor's note. Does any one know of any more missing models?
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Shep", INTERNET:shep@bcinet.net
I HAVE 57 CHEVY PRINTS FOR SALE CONTACT ME AT shep@bcinet.net or my web
page at http://www.astroatlas.com/artbyshep/Welcome.htm Thanks SHEP'
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com, INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com
Bob, I am looking for an aluminum intake manifold for a 327 small block. I
would appreciate your listing this request if any one out there has one
reasonably priced, something like an Edelbrock C3BX is what I am looking
for
. Thanks, Don
My phone # is 408-866-8267 in San Jose and my email is DPete57@aol.com
Thanks
Editor's note. Both Jegs and Summit have them new for about $180.
BOB
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To: "'bob_ford@compuserve.com'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Great job on the list Bob.
Regarding the question of glass interchangeability from Rick Stratton, it
doesn't look like station wagon's door glass is interchangeable although a
lot of 55-57 glass is. I found a page that provides a whole list from
Classic Chevy at:
www.classicchevy.com/techfaq.htm <http://www.classicchevy.com/techfaq.htm>
Good luck
Marc Glassoff
Escondido, CA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JCoron1707@aol.com, INTERNET:JCoron1707@aol.com
Yes, Bob I do appreciate your Precious
service unto us all, that love old cars !!
I have a need & need some guidance &
help; I bought an old chevy & its in
Portland OR. I need to transport it to
California a.s.a.p. Its there is a carrier that
can bring it here for me ? Do any body know
of any one that can help me, I don't count
with a lot of money to pay after the purchase
I don't have much left... (714) 385 9197
Joe
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:allen1964@carolina.net
CC: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Donna, INTERNET:Fiftiesforever@webtv.net
Allen and All List Members:
We have brand new show chrome bumpers for your 57 chevy. The front 5 pc.
is $449, and the 3pc. rear is $399. We do not require your old cores. We
also have 55-56 front and rear bumpers for $269 for the 3pc front or
rear. All our bumpers are triple plated with copper, nickel and chrome.
They are beautiful. We have all in stock. We only charge actual UPS
shipping, no additional handling or boxing fees. Thank you, Donna
Fifties Forever
206 Division Ave.
Garfield, NJ 07026
973-478-1306
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DavesJunk@aol.com, INTERNET:DavesJunk@aol.com
from Davesjunk@aol.com does any one have a 55-57 chevy conv that is
restoable
that would like to trade i have one with fact air cond that i don't want. i
don't want the air car but would trade it for a non air conv.mine is a 55
conv. so let me heard from you who want a air car.the car is in Omaha neb.
the trade must be a complete car ....... phone
402-455-3190..........
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Keithchvy@aol.com, INTERNET:Keithchvy@aol.com
Have a set of front coil springs and a pair of four leaf rear springs.
They
are used from my 1957 chevy 210 2 door sedan. These springs were installed
on my chevy 8 years ago, but I have modify my suspension this year.
I also have an original air cleaner assembly from a 1956 chevy 3100 Pickup
for a 235 six cylinder. The metal is in great condition with one or two
very
small dings on it.
Rear leaf springs $35 plus actual shipping
Front coil springs $30 plus actual shipping
Air cleaner $65 plus $10 shipping and handling
Call me at 609-298-4800 ext 283 and leave a message anytime or E-mail me at
Keithchvy@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
Still lots of talk about hardened valves seats. Has anyone actually
experienced
damaged valve seats from running unleaded gas? It sound like lots of
people are
saying you should install hardened valve seats, but no one has offered any
proof
of actual engine failure due to unhardened seats. All heads I have seen
with
messed up seats have been caused by mechanical failure, i.e. piston hitting
the
valve. I have never seen head with seats damaged by unleaded gas.
Here's something to think about for the "heavy use and towing theory."
What
about all of the old gas burning tractors? We have plenty of them here in
Nebraska. My uncle has a 1964 Oliver, he uses it every day to feed cattle.
It
has logged may hours while pulling a plow in the last 36 years. If it has
been
burning Unleaded gas since 1980, its got 20 years on it with no problem!
You
can bet that old binder does not have hardened seats!
I want to hear some war stories about classics blowing apart and leaving
parts all over the interstate after filling up with 87 octane unleaded.
How about something like this: " Last Sunday the wife and I decided to take
a
drive in our $75,000 '57 fuel injected ragtop. We stopped at the local
quickie
mart. I filled up with unleaded for the reasonable price of $1.76 per
gallon.
The wife bought a diet coke and a cosmo magazine. We had driven about 200
feet
when all of the sudden all hell broke loose! The unhardened valve seats
had
failed! This allowed the valves to strike the pistons. Pieces of pistons
and
rods exploded from the engine. This knocked a big hole in the fuelie
unit, gas
poured out everywhere. After a small explosion the wife and I abandoned
the
car. Unfortunately, the car stopped on some railroad tracks. The fire
department arrived shortly after a loaded freight train drove over my
ragtop (I
always wondered what it would look like with a good flame job). All was
lost,
so I thought. My wife had rescued the cosmo from the inferno, after
completing
the cosmo quiz, she informed me that I scored 7 out of 100 for "How does
your
man satisfy you?" I'm still the man I always was - even though my car is
gone!"
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@cujo2.icom.ca
Hi Bob and all. I couldn't resist following up on the very
positive comments in the last list by 'Roy R. Nagel' on
travelling to Canada. Thanks Roy. This is a spring board
for me to once more invite all of our '55, '56, '57 Chevy fans
from the U.S. to attend our annual 'Classic Chevy Reunion', Aug.4
to 6th. We move around the province each year, this year may be
of special interest to you for it is being held in the Niagara
Falls area. I have attended many meets, conventions etc. over
the past 15+ years and have found that one of the biggest advantages
to visiting an area this way is that the local hosts can show you
their 'part of the world' so much better than you going there on
your own with the aid of your 'AAA' maps etc. Not to go on and on,
but don't forget the huge advantage you have with your American
dollars (worth about $1.40 Canadian). Activities include: Early Bird
Wine & Cheese; Show & Shine; Sat. night Dinner & Dance; Tour
of the Niagara Region; Local Cruise Night; Googie Bags, worth the
price of admission and more. Please feel free to e-mail me with all
questions and allow me to pay back for the many times I have been
made so welcome in the U.S.
Regarding the CCI vs BTC conventions; Linda Riggs knows of what she
speaks. She's 'been there done that'. I have been a member of these
organizations for 20 or so years and count the leaders of both as my
personal friends. All, in my view, are first class people. I too think that
some attempts can be made to co-ordinate their conventions, but to be
realistic about it, you have to realize that we are talking here about two
organizations who are each others major competitors. Its not easy to
'be buddys' with the fellow who may be seen as possibly taking 'the
food out of your mouth'.
Finally, lets put the hardened seats thing to rest. I agree with those
who
say, if you aren't soon getting a motor job, don't worry about it. If you
are
looking at getting that motor done, what difference will something less
that
$100.00 make? Do it. Hey, guys (& gals) thanks for your ears. JimJ.
Editor's note. I also would like to say that Canada is a great place for
an American to take a vacation.
The American dollar is very strong when you buy Canadian dollars. The
best view of the Niagara Falls is from the Canadian side. Take the boat
tour and get into the falls. It is a lot of fun.
My experience at Toronto a few years ago was very positive. A very clean
large city with friendly people and you can speak the language. Toronto
is a short drive from Niagara. In Toronto, go the top of the CN tower.
It gives you a great view of the city.
BOB
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Tamara Tresko, INTERNET:twtresko@pacbell.net
Hi --this is a question to Jerry's movie below.. It was the movie with
Robert Mitchum called "Thunder Road"?????? Right??? Wonderful movie..
*G* Tammy
From: INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com, INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com
I was "flippin' the channels" last nite, and came up short when I saw a
B&W movie with '57 Chevy police cars! Took me awhile to figure out to go
to the
Preview Channel to see what was playing...it's a 1957 movie , with the star
driving a '57 Ford, basically a Kentucky moonshine runner , he wrecks alot
of the Fords, the '57 chevies stay pretty intact. :) Got some nice shots
of
alot of '57 Chevies in the movie, some as plain undercover 4-door sedan cop
cars, others as marked units. I watched over half of the movie 'til the
end, I'd say it was worth buying for anyone's car flick collection. Just
thought
I'd pass it on.
Jerry Casper
Woodbridge VA
Drives a Pacer wagon now...'57 4-dr still in garage awaiting engine after 9
years...
twtresko@pacbell.net
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5732
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1656
www.AngelsBridge.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Harry Jenkins, INTERNET:hkjenk@erols.com
Bob,
This is for both Louis and Ken:
I went to high school in New Jersey and in my senior year (1961-2) I got
my drivers license and a bought a 1958 Thunderbird with a 460 cu. in.
Lincoln engine. On Saturday nights we ALWAYS used to fill up with "white
gas" (Amoco), prior to the prospect of doing some street racing near the
Adventurer Car Hop, because it made the car run better. So the "white
gas" from Amoco was at least available on the East Coast at that time
and already had a reputation and a loyal following. I still burn it
today in the family car, my street rod, '55 Nomad, and '55 Bel Air
Sedan.
Harry
P.S. Bob- Great list!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Warren Kramer", INTERNET:wrkchevy@hotmail.com
Bob,
When our club hosted the midwest convention 3 years ago, CCI told us the
dates and would we be willing to host it. Hotel/Motel availability had
nothing to do with their decision.
Also, these organizations should consider MAJOR shows and swap meets.
Iola,
WI is the same time as Bow-Tie and CCI.
These organizations should work together instead of working in a vacuum.
Warren
P.S. - I'm going to Iola.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "John Cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
G'Day Bob, Please include this in your next list on 55-57 Bits.
WANTED RH & LH SIDE REAR CURVED GLASS IN GOOD CONDITION FOR A 57 CHEV 4
DOOR WAGON, WILL PAY FAIR PRICE , IF YOU CAN HELP OUT PLEASE REPLY. WOULD
BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD ARRANGE & QUOTE APPROX COST TO FREIGHT TO
LUBBOCK TX. AREA . REPLY TO ... email... john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
THANKS JOHN. 11 April 00.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
rich
> Great point Louis, I get so mad when I go to So. Calif. VERY RARELY do I
> pull
> into a gas station where they speak good English, if any. In 1961 I
worked
> for a Mobile Station in East L.A. & I'll tell you, If you didn't have
your
> UNIFORM clean & ready, you best not even show up for work.!!!!!!!!
i suppose that there are probably some group of people complaining that
uniforms are demeaning and may have sued some companies.
+ we
> didn't just sit on our a_ _ _s & collect money, we WORKED for it. EVERY
car
> that came in for gas whether a fillup or just a bucks worth, we at least
> cleaned their windows & asked if they would like their water & oil
checked.
in 1961 we still had high standards.
what's really sad about our country is that when you look at almost every
survey about math, reading and other educational skills we are among the
lowest of all industrial countries.
louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:TMCPK57@aol.com, INTERNET:TMCPK57@aol.com
Bob: The Rocky Mountain Classic Chevy Club of Denver, Co. will be putting
on
their 19th. Annual All Chevy Day on June 17th. 2000. The location of the
show will be the Holiday Inn at 120th and Interstate 25 north of Downtown
Denver. Currently we have 30 classes of cars and trucks to be judged.
Registration is from 7:30-10:30 AM. The judging starts at 11:00 AM.
Trophy
time approximately 3:30 PM. There will be Tee-shirt sales, many door
prizes
throughout the day also raffle prizes and fun. There will be food and
drink
vendors on the grounds. Car entry fee is $25.00. Pre-registration will
receive one free Tee-shirt along with their goody bag. Dash plaques for
all
cars attending. Send pre-registrations to R.M.C.C.C. P.O.Box 18882,
Denver, Co. 80218-0882 Information can be obtained by calling Mel Dyson
@303-695-8322 or Gale Hatley @303-289-6187 or President Ted McArthur
@303-659-2598 General admission $2.00 All proceeds go to CHILDREN S
HOSPITAL. Come and enjoy the Fun. Ted
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
18 issues of car magazines 1990-1994 for sale. 14 issues of Car
Collector, 1 issue of All Chevy, 1 issue of Super Chevy, and 2 issues of
Cars & Parts. Some highlights: 53 Dodge Coronet, 57 Buick Roadmaster 75,
62
Olds Starfire, 58 Buick Century wagon, 64 Chevelle, 54 Cadillac Eldorado,
58
Pontiac Bonneville, 62 Pontiac Super Duty, 64 Impala SS409, 69 GTO Royal
Bobcat, 59 Olds 88, How to: 58-61 tri-power systems, 61 BELAIR convertible,
55 Buick, 56 Pontiac station wagon. Much much more! All issues in
excellent condition; nothing torn out, no rips. $10.00 for all
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:rixrex@ddc.net
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Rick,
Yes, the rear curved glass and tailgate glass is interchangeable from
'55
to '57. The windshield is the only difference between '55/'56 and '57.
Make
sure glass from a 4 door wagon is being used on a 4 door wagon! Two door
wagon glass differs from a 4 door wagon, except for the tailgate which is
the
same.
Wyatt Smolick
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Thanks to Richard and Donna for replying to my question regarding original
'56 chevy electric wiper arms and blades. Yes, the arms are polished and
look beefier than conventional '55 or vacuum arms. "DELCO" is stamped on
the
underneath. Now the metal blades which hold the rubber squeegee have
"ANCO"
stamped into them and aren't as polished as the arms. They have 2 tiny red
buttons to release the rubber. My dad's '59 Corvette has original wiper
arms
and these same metal blades (also have "ANCO" on them). As far as both of
us
know, these blades are original. Are they? The arms definitely are. I
actually picked these assemblies up on EBay and they were labeled as
"original '56 Chevy electric wiper arms/blades". Thanks...
Wyatt Smolick
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Jeff Wilson, INTERNET:jwilson@unctv.org
Will a 292 cid inline 6 fit in the place of a 235, specifically
in a 57 sedan?
I have info on someone with a running 292 for sale, and
the 235 in my 57 is on it's last legs.
Sounds like a opportunity, BUT I've been told that the 292
is about 2 inches TALLER that a 235.
Hence I'm worried that it won't even fit under the hood....
Have any of you tried this or know someone who has?
I've heard that the overall length of the engine and the motor
mounts positioning is the same....
CJ Wilson
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