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From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 7:39 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST

THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST

TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM

THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT
HAS E-MAIL AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING A LIST MEMBER, ASK THEM TO
JOIN. THE MORE LIST MEMBERS WE HAVE, THE MORE INFORMATION LIST
MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.

THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.

I ENCOURAGE ALL LIST MEMBERS TO INCLUDE THEIR CITY AND STATE WITH
THEIR POSTS. IF YOU ARE POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO
INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND THE PRICE. IT IS HELPFUL TO ALSO
INCLUDE WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE.

YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.

IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.

THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com

Looking for advice on a good show car (100pt) insurance for my 56 Chevy
which
is garaged in Massachusetts. Fighting with my regular insurance company
right
now for $3500 worth damages sustained this weekend going to get my
inspection sticker-GRRR -- hit a stone wall.

I know Grundy. Are there others? If you are an agent in MA and have info
you
may email me directly too- thanks

Lenny Schaeffer
event coordinator
Cyclone Car Club
Malden MA
781-397-1322
<A HREF="http://clubs.hemmings.com/cyclonecarclub/">Cyclone Car Club web
site<
/A>
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "riggs57", INTERNET:riggs57@email.msn.com

Just a few thoughts on how to select a 55-56-57 Chevy. Having bought many
classics over the past 25 years, we have discovered a major change in the
past few years. There was a time when the only classic most would even
consider buying were 2 door BelAir hardtops. We bucked that trend by
buying and holding onto a 210 2 door sedan for 25 years (one of the few we
held onto!). Now we see that more and more 150's, 210's, 4 doors, pickups,
and other cars once considered "parts cars" are being put on the road -
much to our pleasure. If someone is new to the hobby, the first thing we
would suggest is JOIN A LOCAL CHAPTER of CCI or BOWTIE! We can't say
enough for the help we have been able to get (and give!) over the years.
Buying a classic is just like buying any used car - buyer beware! Even if
you know a good bit about these cars, you cannot tell everything in a test
drive. If you are not familiar with the cars, it is even more of a gamble.
But you can even the odds somewhat by asking a fellow club member along on
the search. Although the buyer still gets the final decision, at least
another person along can help to temper the car-lust and point out a few
defects (or good points). We have found that most club members are more
than willing to share experiences and help out. And local chapters are a
great way to make new friends. Some of our best friends (or car geeks as
our daughter calls us!) have been made while cruising in 55-56-57 Chevys.
Other than that, there are just different markets for classics. The
purists who won't look at anything other than pure stock will not be
interested in purchasing the modernized modified '57 Chevy, although the
market is very strong for either kind of vehicle. It's all a matter of
taste and finding your market when you're ready to sell. Jim & Linda
from Maryland

Editor's note. I totally agree with Jim an Linda. Join your local car club
BEFORE you buy a car. You will meet some great people. As for their help
in buying a car. You will get some valuable advice.
BOB
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:s4422@aol.com
To: "BOB_FORD@compuserve.com", BOB_FORD
From: "Sperduto, Nick", INTERNET:SperdutoN@DNB.com

Betty, as a 56 Plymouth owner, I can confirm for you, the 55 had a lever on
the right hand side of the steering column, the 56 had push buttons on the
left hand side of the dash, It had a Reverse, neutral, drive and low gear.
There was no button for park, that was accomplished by using the parking
brake.
If you have any other mopar questions, check www.forwardlook.net

Nick
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com

You may have inadvertently opened Pandora's box by asking for suggestions
in
helping to formulate a reply to the type of "potential-purchaser" questions
posed in your list distributed earlier this date!

Some weeks back, there was a contributor who, I thought, did a good job of
listing tri-five models on the desirability (read $) scale - with
convertibles
and Nomads being at the top and 4-door sedans being near the bottom. For
someone
who is just getting started as an old-car collector though, I'd suggest a
focus
on other things. In the real estate game, they say the three most important
factors to consider when contemplating a purchase are location, location,
and
location. Similarly, when contemplating a purchase of a tri-five (or any
other
collectable), I'd say the three most important are condition, condition,
and
condition.

I say this as I can guarantee that replacement of worn/missing/damaged
components and sheet metal or trim and repairs to operating systems will
invariably cost more than one who is new-to-the-hobby will at first expect.
Also, if one buys a vehicle that is in decent shape to start with (one that
you
can actually enjoy and drive from the start), you are much more likely to
have
fun and gain a favorable impression of our hobby. On the other hand, I've
seen
several well-intentioned would-be hobbyists get discouraged after
purchasing a
basket-case. That's not to say that the basket-cases should all be crushed
-
just that I wouldn't recommend them to someone just getting started in the
hobby.

Also, while I may risk starting a few arguments here, I'd suggest that the
new-comer stay away from vehicles with major modifications. I'm not
suggesting
that an otherwise clean and stock '55 sedan be avoided simply because it
had
been re-powered with a 350 cubic-inch GM "crate motor", but I would caution
them
against a car that had been "tubbed", one with a late-model Camaro
sub-frame, a
chopped-top, rack and pinion steering set-up, etc. It's not that I am
against
such things per se, but it is not going to be easy for the new hobbyist to
accurately evaluate the quality of the workmanship on a given vehicle. And
any
vehicle with a sub-frame that has not been mated "square" with the
remainder of
the frame is going to necessitate major re-work to get it right. At least
with
something stock, the newcomer will have a better chance of accurately
assessing
condition.

My two-cents worth, anyway!

Lastly, I'd caution any newcomer to not let emotion rule over logic.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
From: "Don Kent", INTERNET:dkent@socal.rr.com

Hi Bob,

The message below is for reference:

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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com

<< Hi Bob,

Regarding Ken Long's inquiry about an air filter element for a '57 4
bbl. air cleaner:

Take that oil-bath element out and put it on a shelf somewhere (messy old
things!!) Get a Fram CA151. They fit perfectly and have a rubber lip top
and bottom to finish the seal. I got mine at Pep Boys, but other dealers
around the country will also have them. As I recall, the original design
was for a '78 Lincoln. There aren't too many of those left anymore, so I
wouldn't be surprised if Fram quit making the things soon. Better stock
up!

Best,

Don Kent
Northridge, CA >>

Hey Don, what about for a 56 four barrel ????? Changing oil IS a MESS
!!!!
Got a good fitting element for it ?????? Richard
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Richard,

Since I have a '57 I've never done any research into what filter fits the
'56 air cleaner. It wouldn't hurt to contact the manufacturers of modern
air cleaner elements, i.e. Fram, AC, Purolator, K&N, etc. Perhaps they
will
be able to give you an off-the-shelf number, if you tell them the
dimensions
you're looking for. Now the question is how to figure THAT out?

My '57 gets shallower toward the center post. I think the '56 does too,
but
I'm not certain, since I don't have one to look at. Anyway, you'll need to
measure the depth at the deeper (outer) part of the housing, because that's
where the filter will sit. Whichever one you end up with may, or may not,
rest exactly at the extreme outer side of the can, so you'll need to
determine a few points along the housing's taper. You can determine that
by
taking the housing off the car and putting the two halves on the workbench
upside down (that would be AFTER you put that ugly, drippy oil bath element
away somewhere!). Put a straightedge of some type across the diameter of
one of the halves and measure from there down to the bottom of the housing
at several points. Now, do the same thing with the other half of the
housing at the corresponding locations. Add each pair of measurements
together and you'll have the inside dimensions of your housing. Remember
that the top half has a lip that fits OVER the bottom half, so you'll have
to deduct the overlap. Now you can call around to the manufacturers and
have the dimensions in front of you.

Those original oil-bath elements were REAL dirty. As the engine heated up
and air passed through the filter it would pick up some oil vapor. If that
vapor made it all the way into the engine, no problem. However, some of it
would be intercepted by the stationary pieces in the carburetor, like the
throttle butterflys. That little bit would condense and run out the
nearest
hole, like the butterfly hinges, and pool up in the depressions of the
intake manifold. Not a pretty sight! I have a high-point car and couldn't
make-do with the mess. For several years I ran the car with no element in
the air cleaner at all (didn't drive it much!). I feel better with a
filter
in it now.

Hope that's a bit of a help.
Don Kent
Northridge, CA
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:ZEEK171@aol.com, INTERNET:ZEEK171@aol.com

BOB,

THANKS TO ALL THAT RESPONDED ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT AIR CLEANER
ELEMENT FOR MY 57 BELAIR.IT WILL SAVE ME a lot OF TIME OF OPENING BOXES AND

MEASURING.THANKS AGAIN.
ON ANOTHER NOTE, I AM LOOKING FOR A AUTO TRANSPORTER FOR MY 1957 CHEVY
TRUCK, I NEED TO TRANSPORT FROM GREAT FALLS MONTANA TO WESTERN NEW
YORK.(ROCHESTER)CALLED A BUNCH OF THEM BUT NOT A LOT OF THEM GO TO MONTANA.
THANKS IN ADVANCE
KEN LONG
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To: "'bob_ford@compuserve.com'", bob_ford
From: "Matsuoka, Mel", INTERNET:MMatsuoka@shaklee.com

Bob,
Absolutely enjoy seeing your emails! Keep
up the good work!
Since, Easter just passed, I have a what
comes first the chicken or the egg question. In doing a restoration
project, which area do you attack first? The body/paint, motor, interior
or
suspension and why?
I'm hoping that I have the original seats
in
my '56 210 2 door sedan, they're bench seats. I would like to know if the
skirts around the bottom of the seats are available. I don't see them
listed in various catalogs.
Thanks, Bob!
Mel
Union City, CA
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com

Bob,

With respect to your response on the automatic trans shift control for the
'55
Plymouth: you're 100% correct about the dash-mounted lever being used only
for
'55. The same type of lever, which was arranged to move through a vertical
slot
on the dash, was also used on the '55 Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler and Imperial
model
passenger cars. I owned a late '54 Plymouth with Powerflight at one time,
and
it had a conventional steering column-mounted control. The push buttons
(dash-mounted, left of the steering wheel) were introduced for '56 on the
same
cars. All Chrysler product automatics for '55 and '56 were the two-speed
Powerflights by the way, with the sole exception being that the three-speed
Torqueflight was introduced initially on the '56 Imperial - about 1/2 way
through the model year.

Some version of the push-button Torqueflight was used through the '64 model
year
(and, I believe, a very small quantity of '65 Imperials) with a
conventional
column-mounted control being adopted thereafter.

Thanks much for all your efforts on the list Keep up the great work - and
enjoy!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com, INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com

Hi Bob,
Please run the following "Wanted Ad":

WANTED: 327 ENGINE OR SHORT BLOCK
I need a fresh 1967 or earlier 327 motor for my 32 Ford 5-window coupe.
Warmed over is fine, but not too radical, since this is a street car.
Rochester fuel injection wil be installed, so solid lifters are preferred.

No project motors please. Thank you!
Alan ------ werthie@aol.com

Thanks for a great service, Bob.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "TERRY HASBY", INTERNET:belairht@email.msn.com

To: Bob Ford

Thanks for the service you provide. I want to run 2 1/2" exhaust on my
57 2DR HT. with headers. I think I am going to use Flowmasters. Does
someone know where the inlets and outlets need to be (centered or offset)?
Also am looking for any information on restoring rear quarter inserts. Mine
have no dents or creases, just don't look real bright anymore.

Thank you!
Terry
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com

A question for marilyn and others who buy parts or services from a CCI
ad.

As I read the ad rules, sellers must put "SG" in their ad for parts and
services. The SG means satisfaction guaranteed and the seller will be
held responsible for making the deal right.

Did this warranty not apply or does CCI not stand behind their members
ads?

Just curious
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