From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 7:13 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT
HAS E-MAIL AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING A LIST MEMBER, ASK THEM TO
JOIN. THE MORE LIST MEMBERS WE HAVE, THE MORE INFORMATION LIST
MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
I ENCOURAGE ALL LIST MEMBERS TO INCLUDE THEIR CITY AND STATE WITH
THEIR POSTS. IF YOU ARE POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO
INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND THE PRICE. IT IS HELPFUL TO ALSO
INCLUDE WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "McNulty, Bob", INTERNET:BMCNULTY@csuchico.edu
I was considering buying some body parts from Frank Botte
(http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/5612/iwcc7.html) and was wondering
if anyone had done business with him and could comment on his merchandise.
thanks
Bob
bmcnulty@csuchico.edu
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
nnySchnell@aol.com, INTERNETnnySchnell@aol.com
Hi!
My name is Danny Schnell. I'm from a small town in Southern Indiana. I
recently completed a 3050 mile coast to coast charity bicycle ride. In
conjunction with this trip, I will be giving away some great prizes this
summer. 1st. prize is a 1955 Chevy Bel Air, a true American Classic! 2nd.
prize is a 1947 Dodge. Also I will be giving away 38 one week stays at an
oceanfront hotel at Daytona Beach, FL.. The charities involved include
Ronald McDonald House of Topeka,KS and the local volunteer fire department
in
the town I live.
This is a great opportunity to win some nice prizes or perhaps make
some
extra money and be eligible to win the prizes as well. Please check out my
website for all the details. If you belong to a club or organization, this
could be a good fund raiser for you, while still helping my charities. I
would
greatly appreciate if you would check out my website at
www.dannyschnell.com.
Thank-you very much!
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: "Dale D.", INTERNET:canyonrose@yahoo.com
Bob and List Members:
I have been following with great interest the ongoing
discussion regarding CCI and Bow-Tie's recognition of
this list. My feelings are: WHO NEEDS 'EM! I've
been a member of CCI for 11 years and witnessed the
"degeneration" of the "club" (which it is not,
anymore). I still own my "family heirloom" 64 SS, but
that's not what I want to see in CCW. Their direction
has changed too much for me.
I've had a bad habit of subscribing to more motorhead
publications than I can possibly read each month.
I've been getting more out of this list than anything
else. I've got service manuals, and when the need for
parts or accessories arises, if it isn't in Hemmings,
it probably doesn't exist. Therefore, I have decided
to vote CCI off of my island. I've been receiving
renewal notifications for my October expiration for
the past six months, and I smile and throw them in the
trash. If I feel the need to look at pictures of some
really neat Tri-Fives, I've still got 11 years worth
of mags to peruse.
Thanks Bob and List Members for helping me to move on!
-Delivery Dale
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Mark C Bach, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com
ref CCI and late deliveries:
We get the magazine on time each month. Last year when we renewed we
received the yellow 57 model as promised.
You might ask your local postman/lady what gives.
Mark Bach
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Dan Komos, INTERNET:Komosdan@ri.com
Bob and list members.
Suppose someone invented a way for the thousands of us TriFive guys and
gals to communicate with each other on a daily basis AT NO COST. You would
think that would be BIG NEWS in all TriFive publications. Wouldn't this
ability to communicate make the ownership of TriFives much more desirable
that other makes and years without this communications capability?
Come on BOW TIE and CCI. Get your head out of the sand. Recognition of
Bob and this list can only increase your business. If their are any BOW
TIE or CCI officers on this list, please can we hear from you.
DAN
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To: "55-56-57 chevy", BOB_FORD
From: "Bruce Matthews", INTERNET:bruce@stormnet.com
Subject: Answer to David Houghton Question
Dave asked who has the company that puts Corvette suspensions on Tri-5
frames? That would be "Paul Newman Car Creations" 3430 El Pomar Drive (
Dept. Tri-5's Chevy List ) Templeton, California 93465, (805) 226-9201, Fax
(805) 226-9204. No, he is not the actor. Also there was a article in
"Drive" magazine the January 2000 issue, page 64, about his work. If you
cannot find this magazine try them on-line at www.driveonline.com . Have
fun, Bruce from Northern California, back to the garage I gotta get this
done. bruce@stormnet.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_Ford
From: INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com, INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com
Dear Bob,
First & foremost you "newsletter" is very informative in every respect.
It's
great to learn even more every day and know that our hobby lives on !!!
I'm Jack Strahle, President of Jersey Cruisin Classics Chevy CLub.
We are hosting the CCI Northeast Regional convention, August 9-13th, in
Atlantic City, NJ.
As of this year, CCI has increased their year coverage from 1955 to 1972.
I
cordially invite all you Chevy lovers to join us for a great week;
especially
our Parade of Classics down 3 miles of the Atlantic City boardwalk. Please
call me for information at 609- 799-9464; OR visit our website at:
Bob, I would like to invite you to our show. If you can't make it, please
send me any and all information that you would like passed out to all who
attend. Your letter is the best that has cruised down the pike.
After reading one of your newsletters, I contacted our counterparts in
Western Austrailia - Peter Hall. They are now sending us pictures and
video's
of their club members and cars to display at our show.
We will let CCI and all who attend our show know that your list exists.
Thank you again for enriching our hobby. We personally have two chevy's: a
'55 210 -4door- (The Banana) and a '56, 2 door, sport coupe ( The
Raspberry)-
both are driven all the time.
My wife, Pat, is the one who originally contacted you ( this is her email
address) and we have just sent you our latest club newsletter snail mail.
Thanks,
Jack Strahle
Jersey Cruisin Classics
P.O. Box 37
Princeton Jct., NJ 08550
Editor's note. Jack, thanks for the kind invitation. I would like to
attend your show but I probably
will not be able make it. As you know this list is not a business so I do
not have any literature.
Feel free to give my e-mail address to anyone who is interested. The more
people we have on this list the more valuable it will be to the members.
BOB
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:ConantDavid@email.msn.com
To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com, INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com
I have a restored set of 55 Nomad trim (eyebrows/fenders/doors) for
$3,500.00.
I have a used set of 55 Nomad trim (eyebrows/fenders/doors) for $1,750.00.
Plus shipping.
Cliff Waldron
Cliff's Classic Chevrolet
Portland Oregon
503-667-4329
Editor's note. The Old Cars Standard Catalog of American Cars said only
6103 55 Nomads were made.
That must means these parts are very rare.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com, INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com
Bob,
I agree with most of the other members. CCI is not what it used to be. I
have been a member since 1979 and have seen it go down hill ever since Doug
Moorehead sold it. He ran it more like a club. I remember when they had a
couple of homes that they rented out to members visiting Florida. I went
down
there in 1988 and rented the house for 4 days. It was a very nice home with
central a/c, 5 bedroms, large master suite, tv, vcr, etc. It was about 20
minutes from Disney and only cost $35 a night!!! I was very happy with it.
I
also visited CCI and met Doug. He was very friendly and spent a lot of time
with my family and I. They gave us a full tour of the place and offered us
discount coupons for Disney and other places. We felt very welcomed there.
Things like that made me feel like I belonged to a club. Now it's just a
business. In fact, the I remember the new owners knocked the house thing
and
said it had nothing to do with Classic Chevys. This is true, but it did
have
something to do with the benefits of belonging to a club. CCI today does
not
offer any benefits to there "members". They show "member prices" in there
catalogs, but these prices are no cheaper, and sometimes more than most
vendors. So, what do they offer us as members? Tech articles? We can get
that
here, from your list. And it's free! That's probably why they don't
acknowledge your list.Besides, I have called their tech line and the person
who talked to did not seem very knowledgable.Needless to say, I did not
take
his advice. The only reason I continue to "subscribe" to CCI is the
magazine, to see other member's cars. And $30 for a magazine subscription
is
a bit much. And now, with all the other cars on there, I am really
considering ending my "membership". I can get the same thing from 'Super
Chevy'. , and it's half the price.
As allways, thanks Bob for doing such a great job!!! -Warren
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com, INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com
Hi Bob,
I'm looking for any members that might know where I could find
for
sale the tissue dispensers that the front hinged down to expose a radio
inside, and also I'm looking for the script DELRAY on the 1958 delray that
was right under the rear quarter window... would appreciate any help that
the
member give me .. thank you , I'm sure we all wouldn't know what to do
without your format. thanks jthotrod55@aol.com
I could also use a quartz clock for a 55 , if anyone can direct me
to where to buy them... sorry bye again jthotrod55@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Bill Kautz, INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob and all you Tri-5ers,
Having owned many older cars, including my current '55 2 door 210, I
have a hard time believing some of the things that go on in our hobby.
I'm referring to the growing controversy about CCI. Maybe that's why
there were less than 300 cars at the big show in MD a couple of weeks
ago. I know, at that show, I heard nothing but positive things about
this list, as I mentioned before.
I don't care what kind of old car you have, we all have to stick
together. If we don't, the EPA will have us legislated out of existence.
Have any of you Tri-5ers been to a multi-make show and seen a pristine
Model A Ford and not appreciated it? Or an old Packard? Everyone who's
into this hobby, regardless of the make of their car, has to work
together to keep ALL vintage cars on the road. C'mon, folks. If your
organization is so narrow minded that they can't see anything but their
profit, it's time to change affiliations.
Bob has done all Tri-5ers a HUGE service with this list. I'd rather
be a member of this list than have the hassle of belonging to some of
these other groups of so-called "promoters of the hobby" who only see
profit as their motive for being involved.
I'll get off my soap box with another big "Thank You" to Mr. Ford.
Wild Bill
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: "keith chaytor", INTERNET:seckey@iinet.net.au
Good morning Bob,
Thank you for replying to my request so quickly. Its always great turning
up
to work in the morning and when I turn the computer on--there it is--- The
Bob Ford List. Its like a new lease on life. The day doesn't look so bad.
Bob, in the 1950's was it law that you had to run a front and rear licence
plate on your cars or just the rear plate???. I would love to try and pick
up a 1957 Original Licence plate but I wasn't sure if I could only get the
one. In Australia we have had to always run both.
Also I had come across a licence plate 1953 PENNA. Where in the States
does this one come from????
Many thanks once again to all those out in Bob Ford World.
PETER HALL.
Editor's note. Whether you needed one licence plate of 2 depended on the
state you lived in. Some required 2 and some only 1. What state would you
like a 57 license plate from. Let me know and I will try and find you one.
BOB
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: "keith chaytor", INTERNET:seckey@iinet.net.au
GOOD MORNING BOB,
ONCE AGAIN I OWE YOU A MILLION THANKS. YOU HAD GIVEN ME THE DETAILS TO A
COMPANY THAT MAY HAVE A FEW COPIES OF THE 1955 CHEVY BOOK LEFT. GIVE THEM A
TRY YOU SAID. WELL I SAT DOWN AND WROTE THEM A LETTER PLEADING MY CASE AND
THEY HAVE NOW PUT ONE ASIDE, A BRAND NEW ONE MIND YOU, FOR ME. I CANT WAIT
TO SEE THIS LITTLE BEAUTY,
SO ONCE AGAIN I OWE YOU A MILLION THANKS.
PETER HALL.
TAKE CARE BOB,
PETER HALL.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Dear Bob,
Thanks for posting my e-mail. Would love to step up to a Tri-Five Chevy.
But
the wife says: "one car at a time!"
As to the never ending Beach Boys controversy: co-founding members, Alan
Jardine and Mike Love, are into a 'pissing match' of sorts. Both claim the
right to refer to themselves as "The Beach Boys."
So, there are TWO Beach Boy acts on the road: Mike Love and Bruce Johnston,
who has been a member of the group since '65, have one group, and Alan
Jardine, along with sons Matt and Adam, Brian Wilson's two daughters,
Carnie
and Wendy, and Billy Hinsche, formerly of the '60s teen group, 'Dino, Desi
and Billy.' BOTH groups have additional backup musicians.
I've seen Jardine and Company last year in Atlanta, have not caught Mike
and
Company. Having been a close personal friend--as well as a former
manager--of
the band for over thirty-seven years, I have a hard time understanding
their
feud. It apparently happened shortly after the untimely and tragic death of
original member Carl Wilson, who was unquestionably, the most
compassionate,
talented, a level headed member of the group. Without a "Wilson" on stage
(Brian has not worked with the group regularly for thirty-five years and
Dennis died on December 28, 1983), I'm not sure there really is a "Beach
Boys" any more.
As to the recent ABC TV's recent two part TV-Movie, no, I've not seen it. I
taped it, but have not watched it. Can't bring myself to seeing a
sensationalized version of "America's Band." Overall, what I've heard on
the
street, and from BB 'diehards,' is that it was too weighted in favor of
Mike
Love, who was the only member of the band who was a 'consultant' on the
film.
Hey, I'd rather remember the 'glory years.'
For you real Beach Boy fanatics--and others who would like to see one of
the
most talented musical minds of the past century--Beach Boy cofounder,
producer and song writer, Brian Wilson, is touring the US this summer doing
many dates as part of a "Pet Sounds" Symphonic tour. That album, considered
America's top album of the rock era, and tied with the classic Sgt. Pepper
as
one of the top albums of all-time, contained "God Only Knows," "Sloop John
B," "Wouldn't It Be Nice," and "Caroline No." Don't miss this once in a
lifetime experience if the tour comes to your city.
Thanks so much for the lists of Internet 'classic car' sites, Bob. Will try
to check them out. Anyone out there had any experiences--good or bad--with
any of the sites?
Thanks for your great list, Bob. Have a great week!
Regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
(615) 776-2615
Editor's note. Thanks for the update for us "Lost in the Fifties" people.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com
Bob,
My 2 cents on this "club" verses the other older business like Chevy
Clubs. In the late '70's when there was not a lot of info or parts around
to restore the 1955-1956-1957 Chevy's a need arose for people to get
together and help each other and so started CCI. Parts and information to
help the other guy that had a similar interest was the main reason to for
that Club (defined as an association of people for a common objective). It
was found that a method was needed to present info and to locate parts, so
a magazine (the best method at the time) was started which required a small
fee to those who needed it.
Now I see that there still is a need for people to help each other in
the manner and spirit that caused the creation on CCi and similar clubs.
That is where Bob's list comes in, we help each other in the same spirit
that necessitated the creation of CCI. Instead of a magazine we have the
internet, in black and white just like CCI's first issues.
Also, after reading some of the first year CCI magazines I see that
those first members did NOT have a lot of money to spend and needed to keep
it as inexpensive as we do now. I'm not proposing that CCI or Bow Tie are
not necessary, I'm a member of both. But as has been mentioned by other
list members the business clubs are now in business even though they like
to call themselves clubs. I believe they are threatened by this list and
the internet as now there are other ways to get the information we need and
by not being dependant on them it threatens their profits. Its too bad
that they did not see this list and the internet as a way to help the
hobby and Chevy owners and support it, that is what they would have done
before the Business came before the Club.
Have you seen CCI and BOW TIE's web sites? They just copy what they
have been doing for years, keep up with business.
I hope that somebody from CCI or BOW TIE CHEVY will contact Bob and ask
if they could do an article about this list and how much it means to a lot
of Chevy owners. At the very least they could get a good Chevy story out of
it.
Kim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com
Anyone out there have a personal opinion on this? I have some bumper 'ends'
(IM not even sure what they are called -) that were damaged in an accident-
not 100% show quality but would work well for a daily driver as the chrome
is
still shiny-just a bit damaged.
I can get $35 per core from CCI if I 'return' them -I think it would be
better to sell them outright to someone who needs them.
Again they are certainly NOT perfect-scratched a bit but rechroming may be
a
cheaper option for someone who doesn't have a show car? IM not sure...
THOUGHTS? By the way, Hubby doesn't know IM sending this yet but since he
reads this list FAITHFULLY- he WILL!
Dana Schaeffer
(Lenny's wife)
Malden MA
D56chevy@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com
<< I owe a bunch of people an apology.
David Scott Coker >>
David
The thought was there and thats a start..maybe things will change- I hope
so!
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com
In a message dated 07/05/2000 2:21:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
BOB_FORD@compuserve.com writes:
<< I am going to send a copy of this message to
CCI at their e-mail address INFO@CLASSICCHEVY.COM <<
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BEEN THERE DONE THAT_ I sent it to the attention of Joe Whitaker 7/3/00 - I
think they are starting to listen- I will keep you posted but also suggest
EVERYONE on the list to voice their opinion to CCI/Bowtie as well- this
list
a truly a gem they are missing the boat on...
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
CCI member since 1981
owner of 1956 Chevy Belair sedan since 1981
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Bruce Bourgoin", INTERNET:bourgoin@infowest.com
HI Bob, I have been receiving your information for a few months now and
wanted to say "Thank You" for your time, knowledge,and effort for making
this available to us.Lately I have read about the feelings of the CCI
company and I to must agree with their losing contact with our hobby and
interest.
I have included a site where we all share the same interest in building
theses fine cars. Some are modified and some are bone stockers but the
people there are great and have much knowledge to share with others.
I just wanted to say thanks and invite you and anyone that is a member here
with you to stop on by anytime and join in on the live chat.
This is the site and we are on Other Chevrolet Cars Live.
Bruce(UT)<55>
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Pamela Hagins Tassey", INTERNET:tassey1345@prodigy.net
Lenny, you responded to my e-bay auction problem with the following:
"ebay can offer you a final value request BACK for not completing the sale
from the dealer - as he did NOT meet the requirements of YOUR auction- good
luck" Lenny Schaeffer 781-397-1322
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain, or
someone
else explain to me what this means?
Pam Tassey
Event Coordinator
Cyclone Car Club
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com
From: INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com, INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com
I have a product called Blast that is great for removing stains.
I also have a product called Duralt that is an excellent fuel additive.
Cliff Waldron
Cliff's Classic Chevrolet
Portland Oregon
503-667-4329
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:SMK4949@aol.com, INTERNET:SMK4949@aol.com
Bob I think you need to put this in your list so everyone can see how CCI
acted to my e-mail. They like the free info they get off your list but do
nothing in return. All they care about is the almighty buck! Please print
this as this really shows there true colors! You have got a great list Bob
and keep up the good work! It also shows Y
OU care for us Tri-fivers. I can
just hear there subscription's falling from CCI now........LOL. They do not
care for us Tri-fivers JUST our MONEY .....! Boo on them!
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From: SMK4949@aol.com [mailto:SMK4949@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:14 PM
To: info@classicchevy.com
Subject: Bob Fords List
If you decide to run anything about Bob Fords list then count me in on
joining your club. But only until then. When you do let me know and where
to
send my check. If you really care about all us Trifivers........Think about
it!
Steve Kimball
Dallas TX
We do subscribe to Bob Ford's list and feel that it a valuable forum.
Although, we do not promote or publish it in our periodical.
Thank you for your inquiry.
Classic Chevy International
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From: Editor
This is an open invitation to CCI and Bow Tie to respond to these e-mails
if they care to.
I will publish what every you send me.
BOB
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
It's my understanding that cars and wagons (including the Nomad) have
the same fenderwell opening on both the '56's and the '57's. The '55
Nomad has a different fender well opening than the other '55's. The
'56 and '57 fender well openings are different from each other. I had
a friend that built a great looking '57 2-dr post and added a '56
opening to his '57 so more of the tire showed. I like my cars low, he
likes his high. The difference between the '56 and '57 is very subtle
but the '57 is lower. Until he did this to his car, I would have said
they were the same.
Phillip
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 7:13 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT
HAS E-MAIL AND WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING A LIST MEMBER, ASK THEM TO
JOIN. THE MORE LIST MEMBERS WE HAVE, THE MORE INFORMATION LIST
MEMBERS CAN SHARE WITH EACH OTHER.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
I ENCOURAGE ALL LIST MEMBERS TO INCLUDE THEIR CITY AND STATE WITH
THEIR POSTS. IF YOU ARE POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO
INCLUDE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND THE PRICE. IT IS HELPFUL TO ALSO
INCLUDE WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "McNulty, Bob", INTERNET:BMCNULTY@csuchico.edu
I was considering buying some body parts from Frank Botte
(http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/5612/iwcc7.html) and was wondering
if anyone had done business with him and could comment on his merchandise.
thanks
Bob
bmcnulty@csuchico.edu
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
nnySchnell@aol.com, INTERNETnnySchnell@aol.comHi!
My name is Danny Schnell. I'm from a small town in Southern Indiana. I
recently completed a 3050 mile coast to coast charity bicycle ride. In
conjunction with this trip, I will be giving away some great prizes this
summer. 1st. prize is a 1955 Chevy Bel Air, a true American Classic! 2nd.
prize is a 1947 Dodge. Also I will be giving away 38 one week stays at an
oceanfront hotel at Daytona Beach, FL.. The charities involved include
Ronald McDonald House of Topeka,KS and the local volunteer fire department
in
the town I live.
This is a great opportunity to win some nice prizes or perhaps make
some
extra money and be eligible to win the prizes as well. Please check out my
website for all the details. If you belong to a club or organization, this
could be a good fund raiser for you, while still helping my charities. I
would
greatly appreciate if you would check out my website at
www.dannyschnell.com.
Thank-you very much!
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: "Dale D.", INTERNET:canyonrose@yahoo.com
Bob and List Members:
I have been following with great interest the ongoing
discussion regarding CCI and Bow-Tie's recognition of
this list. My feelings are: WHO NEEDS 'EM! I've
been a member of CCI for 11 years and witnessed the
"degeneration" of the "club" (which it is not,
anymore). I still own my "family heirloom" 64 SS, but
that's not what I want to see in CCW. Their direction
has changed too much for me.
I've had a bad habit of subscribing to more motorhead
publications than I can possibly read each month.
I've been getting more out of this list than anything
else. I've got service manuals, and when the need for
parts or accessories arises, if it isn't in Hemmings,
it probably doesn't exist. Therefore, I have decided
to vote CCI off of my island. I've been receiving
renewal notifications for my October expiration for
the past six months, and I smile and throw them in the
trash. If I feel the need to look at pictures of some
really neat Tri-Fives, I've still got 11 years worth
of mags to peruse.
Thanks Bob and List Members for helping me to move on!
-Delivery Dale
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Mark C Bach, INTERNET:m_bach@juno.com
ref CCI and late deliveries:
We get the magazine on time each month. Last year when we renewed we
received the yellow 57 model as promised.
You might ask your local postman/lady what gives.
Mark Bach
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Dan Komos, INTERNET:Komosdan@ri.com
Bob and list members.
Suppose someone invented a way for the thousands of us TriFive guys and
gals to communicate with each other on a daily basis AT NO COST. You would
think that would be BIG NEWS in all TriFive publications. Wouldn't this
ability to communicate make the ownership of TriFives much more desirable
that other makes and years without this communications capability?
Come on BOW TIE and CCI. Get your head out of the sand. Recognition of
Bob and this list can only increase your business. If their are any BOW
TIE or CCI officers on this list, please can we hear from you.
DAN
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To: "55-56-57 chevy", BOB_FORD
From: "Bruce Matthews", INTERNET:bruce@stormnet.com
Subject: Answer to David Houghton Question
Dave asked who has the company that puts Corvette suspensions on Tri-5
frames? That would be "Paul Newman Car Creations" 3430 El Pomar Drive (
Dept. Tri-5's Chevy List ) Templeton, California 93465, (805) 226-9201, Fax
(805) 226-9204. No, he is not the actor. Also there was a article in
"Drive" magazine the January 2000 issue, page 64, about his work. If you
cannot find this magazine try them on-line at www.driveonline.com . Have
fun, Bruce from Northern California, back to the garage I gotta get this
done. bruce@stormnet.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_Ford
From: INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com, INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com
Dear Bob,
First & foremost you "newsletter" is very informative in every respect.
It's
great to learn even more every day and know that our hobby lives on !!!
I'm Jack Strahle, President of Jersey Cruisin Classics Chevy CLub.
We are hosting the CCI Northeast Regional convention, August 9-13th, in
Atlantic City, NJ.
As of this year, CCI has increased their year coverage from 1955 to 1972.
I
cordially invite all you Chevy lovers to join us for a great week;
especially
our Parade of Classics down 3 miles of the Atlantic City boardwalk. Please
call me for information at 609- 799-9464; OR visit our website at:
Bob, I would like to invite you to our show. If you can't make it, please
send me any and all information that you would like passed out to all who
attend. Your letter is the best that has cruised down the pike.
After reading one of your newsletters, I contacted our counterparts in
Western Austrailia - Peter Hall. They are now sending us pictures and
video's
of their club members and cars to display at our show.
We will let CCI and all who attend our show know that your list exists.
Thank you again for enriching our hobby. We personally have two chevy's: a
'55 210 -4door- (The Banana) and a '56, 2 door, sport coupe ( The
Raspberry)-
both are driven all the time.
My wife, Pat, is the one who originally contacted you ( this is her email
address) and we have just sent you our latest club newsletter snail mail.
Thanks,
Jack Strahle
Jersey Cruisin Classics
P.O. Box 37
Princeton Jct., NJ 08550
Editor's note. Jack, thanks for the kind invitation. I would like to
attend your show but I probably
will not be able make it. As you know this list is not a business so I do
not have any literature.
Feel free to give my e-mail address to anyone who is interested. The more
people we have on this list the more valuable it will be to the members.
BOB
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:ConantDavid@email.msn.com
To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com, INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com
I have a restored set of 55 Nomad trim (eyebrows/fenders/doors) for
$3,500.00.
I have a used set of 55 Nomad trim (eyebrows/fenders/doors) for $1,750.00.
Plus shipping.
Cliff Waldron
Cliff's Classic Chevrolet
Portland Oregon
503-667-4329
Editor's note. The Old Cars Standard Catalog of American Cars said only
6103 55 Nomads were made.
That must means these parts are very rare.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com, INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com
Bob,
I agree with most of the other members. CCI is not what it used to be. I
have been a member since 1979 and have seen it go down hill ever since Doug
Moorehead sold it. He ran it more like a club. I remember when they had a
couple of homes that they rented out to members visiting Florida. I went
down
there in 1988 and rented the house for 4 days. It was a very nice home with
central a/c, 5 bedroms, large master suite, tv, vcr, etc. It was about 20
minutes from Disney and only cost $35 a night!!! I was very happy with it.
I
also visited CCI and met Doug. He was very friendly and spent a lot of time
with my family and I. They gave us a full tour of the place and offered us
discount coupons for Disney and other places. We felt very welcomed there.
Things like that made me feel like I belonged to a club. Now it's just a
business. In fact, the I remember the new owners knocked the house thing
and
said it had nothing to do with Classic Chevys. This is true, but it did
have
something to do with the benefits of belonging to a club. CCI today does
not
offer any benefits to there "members". They show "member prices" in there
catalogs, but these prices are no cheaper, and sometimes more than most
vendors. So, what do they offer us as members? Tech articles? We can get
that
here, from your list. And it's free! That's probably why they don't
acknowledge your list.Besides, I have called their tech line and the person
who talked to did not seem very knowledgable.Needless to say, I did not
take
his advice. The only reason I continue to "subscribe" to CCI is the
magazine, to see other member's cars. And $30 for a magazine subscription
is
a bit much. And now, with all the other cars on there, I am really
considering ending my "membership". I can get the same thing from 'Super
Chevy'. , and it's half the price.
As allways, thanks Bob for doing such a great job!!! -Warren
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com, INTERNET:Jthotrod55@aol.com
Hi Bob,
I'm looking for any members that might know where I could find
for
sale the tissue dispensers that the front hinged down to expose a radio
inside, and also I'm looking for the script DELRAY on the 1958 delray that
was right under the rear quarter window... would appreciate any help that
the
member give me .. thank you , I'm sure we all wouldn't know what to do
without your format. thanks jthotrod55@aol.com
I could also use a quartz clock for a 55 , if anyone can direct me
to where to buy them... sorry bye again jthotrod55@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Bill Kautz, INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob and all you Tri-5ers,
Having owned many older cars, including my current '55 2 door 210, I
have a hard time believing some of the things that go on in our hobby.
I'm referring to the growing controversy about CCI. Maybe that's why
there were less than 300 cars at the big show in MD a couple of weeks
ago. I know, at that show, I heard nothing but positive things about
this list, as I mentioned before.
I don't care what kind of old car you have, we all have to stick
together. If we don't, the EPA will have us legislated out of existence.
Have any of you Tri-5ers been to a multi-make show and seen a pristine
Model A Ford and not appreciated it? Or an old Packard? Everyone who's
into this hobby, regardless of the make of their car, has to work
together to keep ALL vintage cars on the road. C'mon, folks. If your
organization is so narrow minded that they can't see anything but their
profit, it's time to change affiliations.
Bob has done all Tri-5ers a HUGE service with this list. I'd rather
be a member of this list than have the hassle of belonging to some of
these other groups of so-called "promoters of the hobby" who only see
profit as their motive for being involved.
I'll get off my soap box with another big "Thank You" to Mr. Ford.
Wild Bill
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: "keith chaytor", INTERNET:seckey@iinet.net.au
Good morning Bob,
Thank you for replying to my request so quickly. Its always great turning
up
to work in the morning and when I turn the computer on--there it is--- The
Bob Ford List. Its like a new lease on life. The day doesn't look so bad.
Bob, in the 1950's was it law that you had to run a front and rear licence
plate on your cars or just the rear plate???. I would love to try and pick
up a 1957 Original Licence plate but I wasn't sure if I could only get the
one. In Australia we have had to always run both.
Also I had come across a licence plate 1953 PENNA. Where in the States
does this one come from????
Many thanks once again to all those out in Bob Ford World.
PETER HALL.
Editor's note. Whether you needed one licence plate of 2 depended on the
state you lived in. Some required 2 and some only 1. What state would you
like a 57 license plate from. Let me know and I will try and find you one.
BOB
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: "keith chaytor", INTERNET:seckey@iinet.net.au
GOOD MORNING BOB,
ONCE AGAIN I OWE YOU A MILLION THANKS. YOU HAD GIVEN ME THE DETAILS TO A
COMPANY THAT MAY HAVE A FEW COPIES OF THE 1955 CHEVY BOOK LEFT. GIVE THEM A
TRY YOU SAID. WELL I SAT DOWN AND WROTE THEM A LETTER PLEADING MY CASE AND
THEY HAVE NOW PUT ONE ASIDE, A BRAND NEW ONE MIND YOU, FOR ME. I CANT WAIT
TO SEE THIS LITTLE BEAUTY,
SO ONCE AGAIN I OWE YOU A MILLION THANKS.
PETER HALL.
TAKE CARE BOB,
PETER HALL.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Dear Bob,
Thanks for posting my e-mail. Would love to step up to a Tri-Five Chevy.
But
the wife says: "one car at a time!"
As to the never ending Beach Boys controversy: co-founding members, Alan
Jardine and Mike Love, are into a 'pissing match' of sorts. Both claim the
right to refer to themselves as "The Beach Boys."
So, there are TWO Beach Boy acts on the road: Mike Love and Bruce Johnston,
who has been a member of the group since '65, have one group, and Alan
Jardine, along with sons Matt and Adam, Brian Wilson's two daughters,
Carnie
and Wendy, and Billy Hinsche, formerly of the '60s teen group, 'Dino, Desi
and Billy.' BOTH groups have additional backup musicians.
I've seen Jardine and Company last year in Atlanta, have not caught Mike
and
Company. Having been a close personal friend--as well as a former
manager--of
the band for over thirty-seven years, I have a hard time understanding
their
feud. It apparently happened shortly after the untimely and tragic death of
original member Carl Wilson, who was unquestionably, the most
compassionate,
talented, a level headed member of the group. Without a "Wilson" on stage
(Brian has not worked with the group regularly for thirty-five years and
Dennis died on December 28, 1983), I'm not sure there really is a "Beach
Boys" any more.
As to the recent ABC TV's recent two part TV-Movie, no, I've not seen it. I
taped it, but have not watched it. Can't bring myself to seeing a
sensationalized version of "America's Band." Overall, what I've heard on
the
street, and from BB 'diehards,' is that it was too weighted in favor of
Mike
Love, who was the only member of the band who was a 'consultant' on the
film.
Hey, I'd rather remember the 'glory years.'
For you real Beach Boy fanatics--and others who would like to see one of
the
most talented musical minds of the past century--Beach Boy cofounder,
producer and song writer, Brian Wilson, is touring the US this summer doing
many dates as part of a "Pet Sounds" Symphonic tour. That album, considered
America's top album of the rock era, and tied with the classic Sgt. Pepper
as
one of the top albums of all-time, contained "God Only Knows," "Sloop John
B," "Wouldn't It Be Nice," and "Caroline No." Don't miss this once in a
lifetime experience if the tour comes to your city.
Thanks so much for the lists of Internet 'classic car' sites, Bob. Will try
to check them out. Anyone out there had any experiences--good or bad--with
any of the sites?
Thanks for your great list, Bob. Have a great week!
Regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
(615) 776-2615
Editor's note. Thanks for the update for us "Lost in the Fifties" people.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com
Bob,
My 2 cents on this "club" verses the other older business like Chevy
Clubs. In the late '70's when there was not a lot of info or parts around
to restore the 1955-1956-1957 Chevy's a need arose for people to get
together and help each other and so started CCI. Parts and information to
help the other guy that had a similar interest was the main reason to for
that Club (defined as an association of people for a common objective). It
was found that a method was needed to present info and to locate parts, so
a magazine (the best method at the time) was started which required a small
fee to those who needed it.
Now I see that there still is a need for people to help each other in
the manner and spirit that caused the creation on CCi and similar clubs.
That is where Bob's list comes in, we help each other in the same spirit
that necessitated the creation of CCI. Instead of a magazine we have the
internet, in black and white just like CCI's first issues.
Also, after reading some of the first year CCI magazines I see that
those first members did NOT have a lot of money to spend and needed to keep
it as inexpensive as we do now. I'm not proposing that CCI or Bow Tie are
not necessary, I'm a member of both. But as has been mentioned by other
list members the business clubs are now in business even though they like
to call themselves clubs. I believe they are threatened by this list and
the internet as now there are other ways to get the information we need and
by not being dependant on them it threatens their profits. Its too bad
that they did not see this list and the internet as a way to help the
hobby and Chevy owners and support it, that is what they would have done
before the Business came before the Club.
Have you seen CCI and BOW TIE's web sites? They just copy what they
have been doing for years, keep up with business.
I hope that somebody from CCI or BOW TIE CHEVY will contact Bob and ask
if they could do an article about this list and how much it means to a lot
of Chevy owners. At the very least they could get a good Chevy story out of
it.
Kim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.comAnyone out there have a personal opinion on this? I have some bumper 'ends'
(IM not even sure what they are called -) that were damaged in an accident-
not 100% show quality but would work well for a daily driver as the chrome
is
still shiny-just a bit damaged.
I can get $35 per core from CCI if I 'return' them -I think it would be
better to sell them outright to someone who needs them.
Again they are certainly NOT perfect-scratched a bit but rechroming may be
a
cheaper option for someone who doesn't have a show car? IM not sure...
THOUGHTS? By the way, Hubby doesn't know IM sending this yet but since he
reads this list FAITHFULLY- he WILL!
Dana Schaeffer
(Lenny's wife)
Malden MA
D56chevy@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.com<< I owe a bunch of people an apology.
David Scott Coker >>
David
The thought was there and thats a start..maybe things will change- I hope
so!
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET56CHEVY@aol.comIn a message dated 07/05/2000 2:21:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
BOB_FORD@compuserve.com writes:
<< I am going to send a copy of this message to
CCI at their e-mail address INFO@CLASSICCHEVY.COM <<
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BEEN THERE DONE THAT_ I sent it to the attention of Joe Whitaker 7/3/00 - I
think they are starting to listen- I will keep you posted but also suggest
EVERYONE on the list to voice their opinion to CCI/Bowtie as well- this
list
a truly a gem they are missing the boat on...
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
CCI member since 1981
owner of 1956 Chevy Belair sedan since 1981
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Bruce Bourgoin", INTERNET:bourgoin@infowest.com
HI Bob, I have been receiving your information for a few months now and
wanted to say "Thank You" for your time, knowledge,and effort for making
this available to us.Lately I have read about the feelings of the CCI
company and I to must agree with their losing contact with our hobby and
interest.
I have included a site where we all share the same interest in building
theses fine cars. Some are modified and some are bone stockers but the
people there are great and have much knowledge to share with others.
I just wanted to say thanks and invite you and anyone that is a member here
with you to stop on by anytime and join in on the live chat.
This is the site and we are on Other Chevrolet Cars Live.
Bruce(UT)<55>
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Pamela Hagins Tassey", INTERNET:tassey1345@prodigy.net
Lenny, you responded to my e-bay auction problem with the following:
"ebay can offer you a final value request BACK for not completing the sale
from the dealer - as he did NOT meet the requirements of YOUR auction- good
luck" Lenny Schaeffer 781-397-1322
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Could you explain, or
someone
else explain to me what this means?
Pam Tassey
Event Coordinator
Cyclone Car Club
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com
From: INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com, INTERNET:Clifchev@aol.com
I have a product called Blast that is great for removing stains.
I also have a product called Duralt that is an excellent fuel additive.
Cliff Waldron
Cliff's Classic Chevrolet
Portland Oregon
503-667-4329
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To: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:SMK4949@aol.com, INTERNET:SMK4949@aol.com
Bob I think you need to put this in your list so everyone can see how CCI
acted to my e-mail. They like the free info they get off your list but do
nothing in return. All they care about is the almighty buck! Please print
this as this really shows there true colors! You have got a great list Bob
and keep up the good work! It also shows Y
OU care for us Tri-fivers. I can
just hear there subscription's falling from CCI now........LOL. They do not
care for us Tri-fivers JUST our MONEY .....! Boo on them!
-----Original Message-----
From: SMK4949@aol.com [mailto:SMK4949@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:14 PM
To: info@classicchevy.com
Subject: Bob Fords List
If you decide to run anything about Bob Fords list then count me in on
joining your club. But only until then. When you do let me know and where
to
send my check. If you really care about all us Trifivers........Think about
it!
Steve Kimball
Dallas TX
We do subscribe to Bob Ford's list and feel that it a valuable forum.
Although, we do not promote or publish it in our periodical.
Thank you for your inquiry.
Classic Chevy International
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From: Editor
This is an open invitation to CCI and Bow Tie to respond to these e-mails
if they care to.
I will publish what every you send me.
BOB
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
It's my understanding that cars and wagons (including the Nomad) have
the same fenderwell opening on both the '56's and the '57's. The '55
Nomad has a different fender well opening than the other '55's. The
'56 and '57 fender well openings are different from each other. I had
a friend that built a great looking '57 2-dr post and added a '56
opening to his '57 so more of the tire showed. I like my cars low, he
likes his high. The difference between the '56 and '57 is very subtle
but the '57 is lower. Until he did this to his car, I would have said
they were the same.
Phillip
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
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VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY