TriChrome
03-06-2018, 11:46 PM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:39 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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From: Editor
Does any member of this list live in the Evansville, Indiana area. If you
do and you would be willing to look at a car for me, please send me a
private e-mail with your phone number so I can talk to you.
THANKS
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "shew", INTERNET:ethan@compunet.net
Hello Everyone,
I would like to thank everyone who answered my question about removing my
windshield, it is out and everything went fine. Now my next favor to ask of
on line experts. I am not sure if I have a one piece or two piece frame. I
would like to email a picture to someone who could tell me. If someone
could tell me which mine is please email me and I will send you a picture.
Thanks again.
Charlie Shew
Castlewood, VA
ethan@compunet.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
bob,
can you please run this ad for me?
chevy engine 1957 283 power pack shortblock with 1956 heads $500
seatcovers --most cars 1935-80,aftermarket patterns,usually striped in the
middle with solid vinyl around the edges $85 per car
1957 right rear bumper end, first edition, rechromed $130
1957 CVHEVY REAR BUMPER GUARDS, RECHROMED 2/$130
1957 TRACKBARS FROM MY 1957 NOMAD--CAN'T SHIP 2/$30
1957 radios, not sure if they work:
pushbutton $75, manual $25
chevy wheelcoverrs excellent used 1955-67 4/$80
fenderskirts used 1955-58 and 1960-62 2/$99, 1967 nos 2/$125
ken weinstein
44 valleybrook ln.
east amherst, new york 14051( near buffalo)
716-689-6888
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com, INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com
Regarding Route 66 and other shows- paying to show your car.
As far as the cost? It's whatever the market will bear. If you don't want
to
pay, then don't go. If everyone agrees they think fees are too high, then
the
number of entries will drop. Route 66 has no problem filling the streets w/
cars every year. Every Car show, unless it's a little local cruise charges
an entry fee. The bulk of the shows I attend charge $20-40 to enter. As
far
as money going to a charity? Well, that's another subject alltogether! Most
of the money helps support the event and pay for the charity's operating
expenses. How much of that money actually makes it to someone who needs it?
If you want to donate, do it where it does the most good. Give blood or
help
out a family at a local church.
To me, I don't have a problem w/ it and I go. I like the chance to show
off
my car and spend the day w/ friends and car enthiusts. If I win, that's
just
icing on the cake. I have friends who hate car shows and the fact they
charge
to show your car keeps them home & their car in the garage. My opinion is
they are missing the boat. These same people think nothing of dropping $20
to
$30 to see a movie or some other source of entertainment. No one is
twisting your arm to go. It's not required. I look at it this way.......
$20
- $30 is a good day's entertainment, even though I have to bring the car.
What else can you do in a day for that amount? As for Route 66? At $80,
that
is a whopping $20 per day of entertainment for the 4 day event. I paid $80
at last minute because I worked, entered car Sat afternoon (for a show that
started Thursday) and won a plaque. Not bad out of 2400 cars. Popular hot
rodding also shot my car during photos. Was it worth the $80.00? You tell
me!
Steve
Upland, Ca.
"AWSOM 55"
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com, INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com
<< Bob. I saw a post about putting an Electric Fuel pump in the trunk of a
56
. This usually doesn't pan out as the pumps tend to lose their prime when
mounted higher than the fuel tank. I would mount it ahead of the fuel
tank
low on the frame. Happy Motoring . BOB >>
What ever you do, keep the fuel lines & pumps out of your trunk area! If
you
install a cell in trunk, a steel firewall between trunk and passenger
compartment is a must! This is an invitation to a fire in the event of an
accident. The last thing you want is a pool of fuel splashing around you.
Remember the nightmare Ford went thru w/ this problem in 60's.
Steve
Upland, Ca
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Jeff Wilson, INTERNET:jwilson@unctv.org
Bob, your cars for sale list has been printing kind of weird
on my email the past few days- are others complaining of
this or it just me?
It seems like one ad's address and phone # falls in the
middle of another ad- or it's just looking kinda jumbled up.
CJ Wilson
Editor's note. A few other people have reported that. I am not sure why
that happened but I am
trying to solve the problem. The copy I sent to myself came back OK so it
only fails on some systems.
I will try to get the problem fixed before I send out any more cars for
sale.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
Bob,
I noted an adv. in your most-recent "For Sale" list for a '55 Chevy
Stepside
truck "with original flathead 6-cyl". Now, this is either one unique Chevy
- or
the seller is possibly new to the hobby and confused about terminology!
With the
later being the most likely possibility, I'd offer the following glossary
type
definitions that could possibly be of some assistance to those new to the
hobby.
Flathead: An engine with both the intake and exhaust valves in the block,
also
commonly called an L-head. Examples would be Pontiac 6 & 8 cyl. engines
through
1954, Plymouth & Dodge passenger car 6 cyl. through 1959.
OHV: An engine with Over Head Valves, in other words intake and exhaust
valves
in the cylinder head or heads. Examples would be any Chevy 6-cyl engine,
the
Cadillac and Olds V8's introduced for the 1949 model year, or just about
any
Buick engine (other that used in the Marquette in the early '30's).
F- Head: An engine with the intake valves in the head and the exhaust
valves in
the block. The most common example would be the 134 cubic inch 4 cyl.
engine
used in many Willys Jeep models beginning in 1950.
OHC: An Over Head Cam engine is one which places the cam (or cams) over the
top
of the combustion chambers. Examples would include the Cadillac Northstar
V8 and
just about any completely new engine designed in the last few years. An
early
example would include the J-Series Dusenberg straight-8 from 1929.
Knight Engine: Also called a "Sleeve Valve" engine. An engine with sleeve
rather
than poppet valves. The sleeves are driven by individual connecting rods
and act
to cover/uncover intake and exhaust ports in the cylinder walls. Examples
would
include the Moline Knight and the Willys Knight/Stearns Knight powerplants
used
through the early 1930's.
V6: An engine with two banks of three cylinders in each bank , as
distinguished
from an inline 6 which has 6 cylinders in one straight row. Examples of a
V6
include the 4.3 Litre engine used in many Chevy S-10 trucks, while an
example of
an inline 6 would include the 216 cubic inch Chevy "Stovebolt 6" and the
4.2
Litre Dual OverHead Cam engine just now being introduced by Chevy in the
new
Trailblazer and by GMC in the new Envoy. Similarly, engines using V2, V4,
V8,
V10, and V12 configurations are also relatively common. Less common are the
V16
(Cadillac and Marmon) and V5 (one bank with two and one bank with three
cylinders).
Small Block: A slang term, which has come into common use to refer to the
series
of Chevy V8 engines which share basic geometry with the V8 introduced for
the
'55 model year. Common factory-stock displacements include 265, 283, 301/2,
307,
327, 350 and 400 cubic inches. Also sometimes referred to as the "Mouse
Motor".
Big Block: Again, a slang term in common use. Refers to the series of Chevy
V8
engines introduced into production for 1965 and having stock displacements
of
396, 402, 427, and 454 cubic inches. (A truck engine with 366 cubic inches
has
also been produced for some time and an 8.1 Litre version has just been
introduced this year). Also sometimes called a "Rat Motor".
Hardtop: A style of body which has no center pillar structure (or post)
behind
the front door. Common examples would include the Chevrolet Belair as
introduced
for the 1950 model year and the Ford Victoria introduced in the 1951 model
year.
I realize this is just a start. Hopefully others would take the time and
attempt
to similarly define some additional automotive nomenclature which can
sometimes
lead to confusion as well.
Editor's note. Thanks for the info Roy. If Chevy ever made a flathead
six, it was a long long time ago.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Graeme Robinson, INTERNET:g.robinson@grcqs.com
Bob,
Why is it that there appears to be more 57 chevy's for sale than 55 and
56's. It would be interesting to analyse the number of each model that
comes up for sale on this site. Interesting !!!!
Graeme
Editor's note. I have heard many times that the 57 Chevy is the most
popular old car anywhere.
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "WADE H. WATTS", INTERNET:watereemechser@mindspring.com
BOB, I'M SURE THAT I SPEAK FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR LIST MYSELF INCLUDED
FOR THE GOOD JOB THAT YOU DO AND I KNOW THAT IT MUST TAKE A LOT OF YOUR
TIME.
A SHORT TIME BACK THERE WERE DISCUS IONS ABOUT PEOPLE LISTING VEHICLES
WITHOUT STATING THE PRICE. I NOTICE THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE LISTING
VEHICLES ON YOUR LIST WITH " CALL FOR PRICE" THAN USUAL.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ONLY LIST CARS FOR SALE THAT HAS
THE SELLING PRICE WITH THE AD.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER LIST MEMBERS THINK.
THANKS, WADE
Editor's note. When list members submit an ad, I try to get them to
include the price. I suggest you do what I do when I see a car listed with
out a price. Just ignore it.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com, INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com
Bob, is this a joke or do these people really expect to get any where close
to the asking price on these cars?
Editor's note. The general public thinks all old cars are worth a fortune
no matter what the condition. However selling an overprice car is very
very difficult.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Bill & Kim Chase, INTERNET:bnkchase@pacbell.net
Hi Bob
I'm looking for replacement trim clips for the door belt line trim (
exterior, right under the window) for a 56 210 2 dr sedan. I've found
what look like replacements at danchuck but I though I'd see if anybody
has any other options or experiences, pro or con. Thanks.
Also,
For Sale: used fuel tank for same as above. Good Condition, although it
will need cleaning, it is very solid with no dents or dings and very,
very, very little surface rust inside. $75 OBO
Call Bill@ 209-832-4689
I'm located in the great central valley of No. California
e-mail
bnkchase@pacbell.net
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "David Hecker", INTERNET:dhecker@presenter.com
Regarding if car owners should pay to participate in car shows. As car
owners we know we have spent a lot of time and money on the cars, and that
they attract people. Therefore, the cars should be worth something to be
shown. I'd certainly prefer not to pay, but without the money there would
be far fewer shows. There are a lot of expenses which go into putting on
the shows, and there are limits to what sponsors will pay. Organizers also
know they have fiscally foolish people in the form of car owners who
frequently have already spent more money than their car is worth, and will
pay to show it off. I think we need to evaluate if we as car owners want
to
pay for the privilege to participate and feed our egos by showing our cars.
Personally, I try to pay for events which offer more entertainment than
just
a car show, or events that I would want to pay admission for without
showing
my car, or events that are helping a worth while charity. The profiteers
who charge both the participants, and the viewers turn me off. If sponsors
were flush with cash to run these events, I'd say the car owners should be
paid to bring their cars; however, you would only have a select group of
cars the organizers would be willing to pay for, and inevitably fewer and
smaller shows. The fact that the shows are as large and as numerous, helps
to further our hobby. So I say go to the shows you enjoy, but if you
wouldn't want to pay admission to the event, or don't think your enjoyment
is worth the expense, go to another show, stay home, or just go driving.
Dave
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
What has happened to hot rodding? I grew up believing that the true hot
rodder was a guy who couldn't afford a brand new car, so he finds some
piece of junk and fixes it up to be as good as and possibly better than a
new car for a fraction of the cost. It seems like all the recent posts of
cars for sale are priced from $25,000 and up. If I were to spend $30,000
on one of my cars I would have to put about $15,000 worth of gold plating
on it or something. I guess when you pay a mechanic $45 per hour to work
on you car because you can't do the work it might take$30,000 to get what
you want. May be I should quit my job and work on classics full time.
With all the money I could make I would buy a new vette and leave those
suckers in their old junkers in the dirt. I really love tri-fives, my
first car was a '55 belair sedan, I currently have 7 of them in different
states of completion, I just can not see spending 60 grand on one. Just
one mans opinion.
Hugh Sieck
'55 Nomad (350 /350 9 in ford detailed frame / engine Could show it but
don't, have about $15,000 in it)
'55 210 2dr Sedan (solid car no motor / trans needs finishing bought for
$700)
'55 4dr Belair Sedan ( 265 / powerglide needs restored, bought for $100)
'55 4dr 210 wagon (parts car pulled out of farmers pasture for free)
'56 210 2dr wagon (454 / 400 auto tubbed pro street)
'56 delray 2dr Sedan (396/ 350 automatic current drag race car)
'56 delray 2dr Sedan (six 3-speed totally solid original car bought for
$2000, not $30,000!)
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To: "'Bob Ford'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Hi Bob-
Just to follow up on my $7 bearing suggestion, that's for the different
hubs
that would need to be changed. I didn't know about the direct replacement
from Allied. It looks a lot easier.
Regards,
Marc Glassoff
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To: "'Bob Ford'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Hey Bob-
I've got a suggestion for the problem of no price on the car ads...make the
price a necessity for listing the car. If no price is included, shoot back
a
reply stating that a price is necessary to list the car. That should get
rid
of the problem.
What do you think?
Regards,
Marc G.
Editor's note. I do this for list members now. However some post are from
public lists.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com, INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com
Man! There is some good deals on the 55-57 cars for sale!
Steve
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com, INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com
Bob, et al
In response to Jim Baylor and the others regarding entry fees for showing
your vehicle in a show. I have a 47 Indian motorcycle that I used to show
alot. I no longer show it, partly for the reasons mentioned in the others
letters. I spend a ton of money and work on my vehicle and they make the
profit off the show and charge me to be the attraction. Once I got over
the ego trip of having everybody tell me how great my bike looked, I
realized that I really had more fun riding it than showing it. If it
wasn't great, I wouldn't have it in the show, so why did I need the ego
strokes?
I am restoring a 57 convertible and I have no intention of paying anyone to
let me show it off. I will continue to attend drive in Cruise Nights as
this is really where you can enjoy your hobby. If we all boycott the "pay
to enter car shows" there would be fewer of them. However it is not too
hard to get a good Cruise night established in your area. Any comments?
Chuck Elliott
San Juan Capistrano
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
CC: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com, INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com
I have a friend with a '72 Impala that uses the same size wheel as the
early
cars (4 & 3/4 on 5 ) & has drum brakes. Check your interchange guide at the
salvage yards. Don
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:dpete57@aol.com
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
The 9/20/2000 distribution includes an entry indicating that "the [tapered
roller bearing] hubs & bearings from '64 to '72 full size Chevy's will work
on
'55-'57s."
This may be correct, but I'm skeptical. I know the full-size '71-'72 Chevy
used
the larger five-bolt wheel pattern as on the Pontiac, Buick and Olds, while
the
earlier full-size Chevy models through 1970 that I'm familiar with used the
smaller five-bolt that was the same as '55-'57. I'd tend to suspect that it
is
actually the '64-'70 full-size Chevy hubs & bearings used with drum brakes
that
are actually the desired replacement. It's possible that the bearings on
the
full-size '71-'72 Chevy models (which were 100% front disc brakes) differed
from
those on the other full-size GM cars, but I doubt it.
Anyone have anything to positively put this issue to rest once and for all?
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Kenneth L Ogle", INTERNET:kenneth.ogle@gte.net
Bob, I have an old 4 barrel Carter carb that I was told came off a 56
Chevy. The tag is missing and my book only identifies by tag numbers. The
number on the top of the carb is '1098' and on the main body is '0-953'.
Do you or any members have a book that identifies carbs by these numbers.
Thanks for your help and keep up the good work, Ken (P.S. I also want to
sell this carb along with a 57 intake) Cleveland, TN 423 479-6317
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
hi
does anyone here have a passenger side exhaust?
has to be a 2 1/2 inch ramshorn style, center 'dump'.
62 - 65 vette
passenger side, without any brackets. plain.
if so please email me.
thanks
louis
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email: lou1@primenet.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
i have come across another source for these bearings. i think they are
much less expensive. am trying to contact someone at the company. will
post the info soon.
louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Dear Bob,
I was absolutely 'shocked' to see your latest edition of Tri-Five Chevy's
for
SALE.
I do not recall any list quite like this one over the past two years I've
read your weekly letter. Not a car UNDER $30 grand, and one for $72,000! I
believe that would be a record.
If this is a 'sign of the times,' I 'missed the boat,' and am, apparently,
out of the running. If, on the other hand, your optimistic readers think
that
Bill Gates has decided to have another mid-life crisis and corner the
market
on Tri-Fives, then GOOD LUCK to all of you in this week's FOR SALE List!
I can remember when a hopeful Chevy buyer could still dream of that great
Tri-Five sitting in his/her garage or driveway. Now, after reading this
week's list, I will have to sell the garage--and the home that comes with
it--just to afford a Classic Chevy:) !
Owe how I yearn for a return to those 'thrilling days of yesteryear,' when
we
could read your list, see a great bargain for $15k to $25k and, as the
Everly
Brothers used to say: "Dream, Dream, Dream, ..............."
If any of you sales fanatics still have your cars in six to twelve months,
once you've come back down to earth, give me a call. Let's 'wheel and
deal........'
Until then, regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
(615) 776-2615
www.nashvillepacific.com
fredvail@nashvillepacific.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< -------
From: Editor
Any stamp collectors on this list? Here is some 50s trivia. What was the
cost of the last stamp that was used in the US to send a letter Air Mail
instead of regular mail (usually by train)? >>
Bob, just a thoughtful guess, was it .08 cents??????? Richard
Editor's note. I think that is correct but I hope someone has the correct
answer.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Jim Baylor, I am definitely with you on the subject of "Paying To Show
Your Car". Especially that amount!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-( Too bad people
will NOT boycott this kind of action! If they would, then they would be
forced to find other alternatives!
Take Care, Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rose", INTERNET:rcrotty@roadrunner.nf.net
Hi Folks!
Anyone out there know what the paint codes are for T
ropical Turquoise and India Ivory?
I am having my 57 Belair painted this colour scheme and I need the codes
for acrylic enamel for both these colours.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me at
gdawe@roadrunner.nf.net.
Thanks
Gary Dawe
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
I have a question about cars for sale listed as original. I have seen adds
such as this "For sale: '57 hard top all original, over $30,000 invested
will sell for $25,000." How can you invest $30,000 in an original car?
You can pay $30,000 to purchase an original car or you can invest $30,000
in restoring a car to like new condition. I do not consider a car restored
to like new condition as "original." Any thoughts on this.
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From: Editor
On the subject of paying to enter a car show, I was at a show last year
where you paid if you wanted your car judged and you did not pay if you did
not want it judged. Has anyone else been to a show like that?
BOB
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
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VOICE 714-637-8877
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Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:39 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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From: Editor
Does any member of this list live in the Evansville, Indiana area. If you
do and you would be willing to look at a car for me, please send me a
private e-mail with your phone number so I can talk to you.
THANKS
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "shew", INTERNET:ethan@compunet.net
Hello Everyone,
I would like to thank everyone who answered my question about removing my
windshield, it is out and everything went fine. Now my next favor to ask of
on line experts. I am not sure if I have a one piece or two piece frame. I
would like to email a picture to someone who could tell me. If someone
could tell me which mine is please email me and I will send you a picture.
Thanks again.
Charlie Shew
Castlewood, VA
ethan@compunet.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
bob,
can you please run this ad for me?
chevy engine 1957 283 power pack shortblock with 1956 heads $500
seatcovers --most cars 1935-80,aftermarket patterns,usually striped in the
middle with solid vinyl around the edges $85 per car
1957 right rear bumper end, first edition, rechromed $130
1957 CVHEVY REAR BUMPER GUARDS, RECHROMED 2/$130
1957 TRACKBARS FROM MY 1957 NOMAD--CAN'T SHIP 2/$30
1957 radios, not sure if they work:
pushbutton $75, manual $25
chevy wheelcoverrs excellent used 1955-67 4/$80
fenderskirts used 1955-58 and 1960-62 2/$99, 1967 nos 2/$125
ken weinstein
44 valleybrook ln.
east amherst, new york 14051( near buffalo)
716-689-6888
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com, INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com
Regarding Route 66 and other shows- paying to show your car.
As far as the cost? It's whatever the market will bear. If you don't want
to
pay, then don't go. If everyone agrees they think fees are too high, then
the
number of entries will drop. Route 66 has no problem filling the streets w/
cars every year. Every Car show, unless it's a little local cruise charges
an entry fee. The bulk of the shows I attend charge $20-40 to enter. As
far
as money going to a charity? Well, that's another subject alltogether! Most
of the money helps support the event and pay for the charity's operating
expenses. How much of that money actually makes it to someone who needs it?
If you want to donate, do it where it does the most good. Give blood or
help
out a family at a local church.
To me, I don't have a problem w/ it and I go. I like the chance to show
off
my car and spend the day w/ friends and car enthiusts. If I win, that's
just
icing on the cake. I have friends who hate car shows and the fact they
charge
to show your car keeps them home & their car in the garage. My opinion is
they are missing the boat. These same people think nothing of dropping $20
to
$30 to see a movie or some other source of entertainment. No one is
twisting your arm to go. It's not required. I look at it this way.......
$20
- $30 is a good day's entertainment, even though I have to bring the car.
What else can you do in a day for that amount? As for Route 66? At $80,
that
is a whopping $20 per day of entertainment for the 4 day event. I paid $80
at last minute because I worked, entered car Sat afternoon (for a show that
started Thursday) and won a plaque. Not bad out of 2400 cars. Popular hot
rodding also shot my car during photos. Was it worth the $80.00? You tell
me!
Steve
Upland, Ca.
"AWSOM 55"
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com, INTERNET:Low55chev@aol.com
<< Bob. I saw a post about putting an Electric Fuel pump in the trunk of a
56
. This usually doesn't pan out as the pumps tend to lose their prime when
mounted higher than the fuel tank. I would mount it ahead of the fuel
tank
low on the frame. Happy Motoring . BOB >>
What ever you do, keep the fuel lines & pumps out of your trunk area! If
you
install a cell in trunk, a steel firewall between trunk and passenger
compartment is a must! This is an invitation to a fire in the event of an
accident. The last thing you want is a pool of fuel splashing around you.
Remember the nightmare Ford went thru w/ this problem in 60's.
Steve
Upland, Ca
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Jeff Wilson, INTERNET:jwilson@unctv.org
Bob, your cars for sale list has been printing kind of weird
on my email the past few days- are others complaining of
this or it just me?
It seems like one ad's address and phone # falls in the
middle of another ad- or it's just looking kinda jumbled up.
CJ Wilson
Editor's note. A few other people have reported that. I am not sure why
that happened but I am
trying to solve the problem. The copy I sent to myself came back OK so it
only fails on some systems.
I will try to get the problem fixed before I send out any more cars for
sale.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
Bob,
I noted an adv. in your most-recent "For Sale" list for a '55 Chevy
Stepside
truck "with original flathead 6-cyl". Now, this is either one unique Chevy
- or
the seller is possibly new to the hobby and confused about terminology!
With the
later being the most likely possibility, I'd offer the following glossary
type
definitions that could possibly be of some assistance to those new to the
hobby.
Flathead: An engine with both the intake and exhaust valves in the block,
also
commonly called an L-head. Examples would be Pontiac 6 & 8 cyl. engines
through
1954, Plymouth & Dodge passenger car 6 cyl. through 1959.
OHV: An engine with Over Head Valves, in other words intake and exhaust
valves
in the cylinder head or heads. Examples would be any Chevy 6-cyl engine,
the
Cadillac and Olds V8's introduced for the 1949 model year, or just about
any
Buick engine (other that used in the Marquette in the early '30's).
F- Head: An engine with the intake valves in the head and the exhaust
valves in
the block. The most common example would be the 134 cubic inch 4 cyl.
engine
used in many Willys Jeep models beginning in 1950.
OHC: An Over Head Cam engine is one which places the cam (or cams) over the
top
of the combustion chambers. Examples would include the Cadillac Northstar
V8 and
just about any completely new engine designed in the last few years. An
early
example would include the J-Series Dusenberg straight-8 from 1929.
Knight Engine: Also called a "Sleeve Valve" engine. An engine with sleeve
rather
than poppet valves. The sleeves are driven by individual connecting rods
and act
to cover/uncover intake and exhaust ports in the cylinder walls. Examples
would
include the Moline Knight and the Willys Knight/Stearns Knight powerplants
used
through the early 1930's.
V6: An engine with two banks of three cylinders in each bank , as
distinguished
from an inline 6 which has 6 cylinders in one straight row. Examples of a
V6
include the 4.3 Litre engine used in many Chevy S-10 trucks, while an
example of
an inline 6 would include the 216 cubic inch Chevy "Stovebolt 6" and the
4.2
Litre Dual OverHead Cam engine just now being introduced by Chevy in the
new
Trailblazer and by GMC in the new Envoy. Similarly, engines using V2, V4,
V8,
V10, and V12 configurations are also relatively common. Less common are the
V16
(Cadillac and Marmon) and V5 (one bank with two and one bank with three
cylinders).
Small Block: A slang term, which has come into common use to refer to the
series
of Chevy V8 engines which share basic geometry with the V8 introduced for
the
'55 model year. Common factory-stock displacements include 265, 283, 301/2,
307,
327, 350 and 400 cubic inches. Also sometimes referred to as the "Mouse
Motor".
Big Block: Again, a slang term in common use. Refers to the series of Chevy
V8
engines introduced into production for 1965 and having stock displacements
of
396, 402, 427, and 454 cubic inches. (A truck engine with 366 cubic inches
has
also been produced for some time and an 8.1 Litre version has just been
introduced this year). Also sometimes called a "Rat Motor".
Hardtop: A style of body which has no center pillar structure (or post)
behind
the front door. Common examples would include the Chevrolet Belair as
introduced
for the 1950 model year and the Ford Victoria introduced in the 1951 model
year.
I realize this is just a start. Hopefully others would take the time and
attempt
to similarly define some additional automotive nomenclature which can
sometimes
lead to confusion as well.
Editor's note. Thanks for the info Roy. If Chevy ever made a flathead
six, it was a long long time ago.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Graeme Robinson, INTERNET:g.robinson@grcqs.com
Bob,
Why is it that there appears to be more 57 chevy's for sale than 55 and
56's. It would be interesting to analyse the number of each model that
comes up for sale on this site. Interesting !!!!
Graeme
Editor's note. I have heard many times that the 57 Chevy is the most
popular old car anywhere.
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "WADE H. WATTS", INTERNET:watereemechser@mindspring.com
BOB, I'M SURE THAT I SPEAK FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF YOUR LIST MYSELF INCLUDED
FOR THE GOOD JOB THAT YOU DO AND I KNOW THAT IT MUST TAKE A LOT OF YOUR
TIME.
A SHORT TIME BACK THERE WERE DISCUS IONS ABOUT PEOPLE LISTING VEHICLES
WITHOUT STATING THE PRICE. I NOTICE THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE LISTING
VEHICLES ON YOUR LIST WITH " CALL FOR PRICE" THAN USUAL.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO ONLY LIST CARS FOR SALE THAT HAS
THE SELLING PRICE WITH THE AD.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER LIST MEMBERS THINK.
THANKS, WADE
Editor's note. When list members submit an ad, I try to get them to
include the price. I suggest you do what I do when I see a car listed with
out a price. Just ignore it.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com, INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com
Bob, is this a joke or do these people really expect to get any where close
to the asking price on these cars?
Editor's note. The general public thinks all old cars are worth a fortune
no matter what the condition. However selling an overprice car is very
very difficult.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Bill & Kim Chase, INTERNET:bnkchase@pacbell.net
Hi Bob
I'm looking for replacement trim clips for the door belt line trim (
exterior, right under the window) for a 56 210 2 dr sedan. I've found
what look like replacements at danchuck but I though I'd see if anybody
has any other options or experiences, pro or con. Thanks.
Also,
For Sale: used fuel tank for same as above. Good Condition, although it
will need cleaning, it is very solid with no dents or dings and very,
very, very little surface rust inside. $75 OBO
Call Bill@ 209-832-4689
I'm located in the great central valley of No. California
bnkchase@pacbell.net
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "David Hecker", INTERNET:dhecker@presenter.com
Regarding if car owners should pay to participate in car shows. As car
owners we know we have spent a lot of time and money on the cars, and that
they attract people. Therefore, the cars should be worth something to be
shown. I'd certainly prefer not to pay, but without the money there would
be far fewer shows. There are a lot of expenses which go into putting on
the shows, and there are limits to what sponsors will pay. Organizers also
know they have fiscally foolish people in the form of car owners who
frequently have already spent more money than their car is worth, and will
pay to show it off. I think we need to evaluate if we as car owners want
to
pay for the privilege to participate and feed our egos by showing our cars.
Personally, I try to pay for events which offer more entertainment than
just
a car show, or events that I would want to pay admission for without
showing
my car, or events that are helping a worth while charity. The profiteers
who charge both the participants, and the viewers turn me off. If sponsors
were flush with cash to run these events, I'd say the car owners should be
paid to bring their cars; however, you would only have a select group of
cars the organizers would be willing to pay for, and inevitably fewer and
smaller shows. The fact that the shows are as large and as numerous, helps
to further our hobby. So I say go to the shows you enjoy, but if you
wouldn't want to pay admission to the event, or don't think your enjoyment
is worth the expense, go to another show, stay home, or just go driving.
Dave
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
What has happened to hot rodding? I grew up believing that the true hot
rodder was a guy who couldn't afford a brand new car, so he finds some
piece of junk and fixes it up to be as good as and possibly better than a
new car for a fraction of the cost. It seems like all the recent posts of
cars for sale are priced from $25,000 and up. If I were to spend $30,000
on one of my cars I would have to put about $15,000 worth of gold plating
on it or something. I guess when you pay a mechanic $45 per hour to work
on you car because you can't do the work it might take$30,000 to get what
you want. May be I should quit my job and work on classics full time.
With all the money I could make I would buy a new vette and leave those
suckers in their old junkers in the dirt. I really love tri-fives, my
first car was a '55 belair sedan, I currently have 7 of them in different
states of completion, I just can not see spending 60 grand on one. Just
one mans opinion.
Hugh Sieck
'55 Nomad (350 /350 9 in ford detailed frame / engine Could show it but
don't, have about $15,000 in it)
'55 210 2dr Sedan (solid car no motor / trans needs finishing bought for
$700)
'55 4dr Belair Sedan ( 265 / powerglide needs restored, bought for $100)
'55 4dr 210 wagon (parts car pulled out of farmers pasture for free)
'56 210 2dr wagon (454 / 400 auto tubbed pro street)
'56 delray 2dr Sedan (396/ 350 automatic current drag race car)
'56 delray 2dr Sedan (six 3-speed totally solid original car bought for
$2000, not $30,000!)
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To: "'Bob Ford'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Hi Bob-
Just to follow up on my $7 bearing suggestion, that's for the different
hubs
that would need to be changed. I didn't know about the direct replacement
from Allied. It looks a lot easier.
Regards,
Marc Glassoff
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To: "'Bob Ford'", bob_ford
From: "Glassoff, Marc", INTERNET:GlassoffMA@navair.navy.mil
Hey Bob-
I've got a suggestion for the problem of no price on the car ads...make the
price a necessity for listing the car. If no price is included, shoot back
a
reply stating that a price is necessary to list the car. That should get
rid
of the problem.
What do you think?
Regards,
Marc G.
Editor's note. I do this for list members now. However some post are from
public lists.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com, INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com
Man! There is some good deals on the 55-57 cars for sale!
Steve
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com, INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com
Bob, et al
In response to Jim Baylor and the others regarding entry fees for showing
your vehicle in a show. I have a 47 Indian motorcycle that I used to show
alot. I no longer show it, partly for the reasons mentioned in the others
letters. I spend a ton of money and work on my vehicle and they make the
profit off the show and charge me to be the attraction. Once I got over
the ego trip of having everybody tell me how great my bike looked, I
realized that I really had more fun riding it than showing it. If it
wasn't great, I wouldn't have it in the show, so why did I need the ego
strokes?
I am restoring a 57 convertible and I have no intention of paying anyone to
let me show it off. I will continue to attend drive in Cruise Nights as
this is really where you can enjoy your hobby. If we all boycott the "pay
to enter car shows" there would be fewer of them. However it is not too
hard to get a good Cruise night established in your area. Any comments?
Chuck Elliott
San Juan Capistrano
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To: [unknown], INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
CC: [unknown], Bob_Ford
From: INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com, INTERNET:DPete57@aol.com
I have a friend with a '72 Impala that uses the same size wheel as the
early
cars (4 & 3/4 on 5 ) & has drum brakes. Check your interchange guide at the
salvage yards. Don
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:dpete57@aol.com
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
The 9/20/2000 distribution includes an entry indicating that "the [tapered
roller bearing] hubs & bearings from '64 to '72 full size Chevy's will work
on
'55-'57s."
This may be correct, but I'm skeptical. I know the full-size '71-'72 Chevy
used
the larger five-bolt wheel pattern as on the Pontiac, Buick and Olds, while
the
earlier full-size Chevy models through 1970 that I'm familiar with used the
smaller five-bolt that was the same as '55-'57. I'd tend to suspect that it
is
actually the '64-'70 full-size Chevy hubs & bearings used with drum brakes
that
are actually the desired replacement. It's possible that the bearings on
the
full-size '71-'72 Chevy models (which were 100% front disc brakes) differed
from
those on the other full-size GM cars, but I doubt it.
Anyone have anything to positively put this issue to rest once and for all?
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Kenneth L Ogle", INTERNET:kenneth.ogle@gte.net
Bob, I have an old 4 barrel Carter carb that I was told came off a 56
Chevy. The tag is missing and my book only identifies by tag numbers. The
number on the top of the carb is '1098' and on the main body is '0-953'.
Do you or any members have a book that identifies carbs by these numbers.
Thanks for your help and keep up the good work, Ken (P.S. I also want to
sell this carb along with a 57 intake) Cleveland, TN 423 479-6317
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
hi
does anyone here have a passenger side exhaust?
has to be a 2 1/2 inch ramshorn style, center 'dump'.
62 - 65 vette
passenger side, without any brackets. plain.
if so please email me.
thanks
louis
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email: lou1@primenet.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
i have come across another source for these bearings. i think they are
much less expensive. am trying to contact someone at the company. will
post the info soon.
louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Dear Bob,
I was absolutely 'shocked' to see your latest edition of Tri-Five Chevy's
for
SALE.
I do not recall any list quite like this one over the past two years I've
read your weekly letter. Not a car UNDER $30 grand, and one for $72,000! I
believe that would be a record.
If this is a 'sign of the times,' I 'missed the boat,' and am, apparently,
out of the running. If, on the other hand, your optimistic readers think
that
Bill Gates has decided to have another mid-life crisis and corner the
market
on Tri-Fives, then GOOD LUCK to all of you in this week's FOR SALE List!
I can remember when a hopeful Chevy buyer could still dream of that great
Tri-Five sitting in his/her garage or driveway. Now, after reading this
week's list, I will have to sell the garage--and the home that comes with
it--just to afford a Classic Chevy:) !
Owe how I yearn for a return to those 'thrilling days of yesteryear,' when
we
could read your list, see a great bargain for $15k to $25k and, as the
Everly
Brothers used to say: "Dream, Dream, Dream, ..............."
If any of you sales fanatics still have your cars in six to twelve months,
once you've come back down to earth, give me a call. Let's 'wheel and
deal........'
Until then, regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
(615) 776-2615
www.nashvillepacific.com
fredvail@nashvillepacific.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< -------
From: Editor
Any stamp collectors on this list? Here is some 50s trivia. What was the
cost of the last stamp that was used in the US to send a letter Air Mail
instead of regular mail (usually by train)? >>
Bob, just a thoughtful guess, was it .08 cents??????? Richard
Editor's note. I think that is correct but I hope someone has the correct
answer.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Jim Baylor, I am definitely with you on the subject of "Paying To Show
Your Car". Especially that amount!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-( Too bad people
will NOT boycott this kind of action! If they would, then they would be
forced to find other alternatives!
Take Care, Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rose", INTERNET:rcrotty@roadrunner.nf.net
Hi Folks!
Anyone out there know what the paint codes are for T
ropical Turquoise and India Ivory?
I am having my 57 Belair painted this colour scheme and I need the codes
for acrylic enamel for both these colours.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me at
gdawe@roadrunner.nf.net.
Thanks
Gary Dawe
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu, INTERNET:hsieck@unlnotes.unl.edu
I have a question about cars for sale listed as original. I have seen adds
such as this "For sale: '57 hard top all original, over $30,000 invested
will sell for $25,000." How can you invest $30,000 in an original car?
You can pay $30,000 to purchase an original car or you can invest $30,000
in restoring a car to like new condition. I do not consider a car restored
to like new condition as "original." Any thoughts on this.
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From: Editor
On the subject of paying to enter a car show, I was at a show last year
where you paid if you wanted your car judged and you did not pay if you did
not want it judged. Has anyone else been to a show like that?
BOB
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