TriChrome
03-06-2018, 11:55 PM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:20 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
Styleline was a Chevy series from 1949 to 1952 (the Bel Air of those
years as the top Chevy series). The first Bel Air was in 1951 and a
"hardtop" (no post) version of the Styleline Deluxe series.
Therefore, an old Chevy guy might still call, after 1952, a top of the
line series, a Styleline even though Chevy dropped the name in '52 when
Bel Air became the top series. Similar to 1958 when the top Bel Air
model (the conv and sport coupe{"hardtop"}) became an Impala and then in
1959, the Impala became the top series with the Bel Air the second
series (similar to the 210 model in 55-57). Before 1949, the top series
was a called a Stylemaster. The Fleetline was the "fastback" model
(2-dr and 4 dr) from '49 through '52.
Phillip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Juan Bezanilla", INTERNET:jbezanil@hotmail.com
Bob--
In regards to H. Smith's question on "backward-spinning wheels" in cinema:
Wheels appear to spin backwards because of the film speed used in the
filming. If the number of frames per second is faster than the number of
wheel rotations per second, the camera will "photograph" the wheel just
short of its next complete revolution. The next frame captures the exact
same thing. And the next. And so on. The result is a wheel that appears
to spin in a direction opposite to the car's movement. If the frame speed
=
the revolution/second speed, the result is a "still" wheel.
JB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rick Williams", INTERNET:rickerwill@worldnet.att.net
Not to further prolong a non-Chevy topic, but . . .
Kevin, in Delaware, offered a simplified explanation of the theory of
flight
(Bernoulli principle creating low pressure over an airfoil, thus resulting
in lift to counter gravity). How then do we explain inverted flight with
the same airfoil? Would not the low pressure area then be UNDER the wing,
causing the plane to plummet from the sky as the "lift" forced it downward?
Is this "counterforce" overcome by shear brute thrust? MAN! I learn a lot
on this list! ;>)
Reno Rick
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rich Hoff", INTERNET:rhoff@tsi-telsys.com
Bob
Here is some trivia for you.
2. The band of Bill Haley (Rock Around the Clock) was named after what car?
I believe Bill Haley named his band after the celestial body COMET, not the
car. Bill Haley changed the name of his band to the Comets in 1952.
Mercury
didn't make the Comet until 1960.
Rich Hoff
HMCCC
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
I have to ask the same question as RJ. I've had or been around Tri-Fives
since High School and never heard of a "Styleline Delux." Who came up
with
that and what is it referring to? I may be missing something here since I
don't drive my '56 Nomad all that much. It just turned over 700 miles
last
month.
Scott >>
Me too Bob, As you know, I'm a member of the Geiser Club & have been around
these cars quite a long time (have had MY 56 for 28 years!) And I too,
have
never heard of a Styleline Deluxe! !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@ Someone Help us
all out, please! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/00 8:02:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
BOB_FORD@compuserve.com writes:
<< Editor's note. Anyone remember when car radios had vibrators that would
run a battery down in hurry?
BOB >>
Yeah Bob, like the one in my 56 Chevy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
I would just like to wish everyone on the list and their familes a "Happy
Holiday Season."
Last year at this time, my sister had just went through a Bone Marrow
transplant for Luekemia. Things didn't look good for a long time. A LOT of
nice people I met on the net, prayed for her, a person none of THEM had
ever
met.
My sister returned to work this past week, her first in over a year. The
Lord was VERY kind to her.
This truly will be a "Happy" season for my family, I hope for yours as
well.
Thanks. RJ
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Warren Kramer", INTERNET:wrkchevy@hotmail.com
Bob,
I see compliments on your site every update and there is a reason; It is a
great site; I have to check my mail every night to see the next "edition".
I have to respond to John Lynn's comments about our current generation of
children. Most of the kids in high school and in their 20's do not know
even 10 state capitol's and their states. The average is 3 (THREE).
Is anyone glad to see that we have a president? Of course; but how many
people realize what has just occurred!!!
Our country survived, without even blinking, what most countrys could not
have. With a few exceptions, most would have been taken over by the
military - we survived.
The sad part is that most of the young people don't even care; "I'm so
tired
of seeing that on TV." Etc. They do not realize the total ramifications of
all that went on, nor do they care. In fact, many won't even remember in
the next election.
Enough - it's time to get back to the thrust of this site. Bob, Keep up
the
good work.
Merry CHRISTmas to you and all your readers.
Warren
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
BOB
your website is great. does anyone know of any other websites like this for
selling ford or chrysler parts?
I've also used chevytalk.com and that site is real good too?
ken weinstein buffalo, new york
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
BOB
parts for sale: chevy fenderskirts 1955, 57, 58,60,61, 62 all used 2/99,
1967 chevy nos 2/125,right rear 57 bumper end 1st generation $130,
1957 nos hoodrockets 2 pieces for $50(THIS WOULD MAKE A NICE X-MAS PRESENT)
1957 radio-manual needs repairs? $25,
wheelcovers full size 1955-64 4/$80, supersport 1962, 63, 64 ,67 4
$120, oldsmobile 1966 spinners with 3 bars for someone who wants their car
to look a little different 4/$120,</P>
wheels(can't ship)1958-62 14 inch $35 each</P>
seatcovers- mostcars 1935-80- aftermarket patterns(usually plaid vinyl with
hog rings) $85 percar
ken weinstein 44 valleybrook ln. e.amherst, n.y. 14051
716-689-6888 nites
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bill Kautz", INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob,
In answer to Roy's question about the safest SUV for his wife, it's the
Hummer. It will roll over anything else with 4 wheels!
Also, Bill Haley's band was the Comets but not named for the FOMOCO
product of that name. The Bill Haley group actually started in the late
'40s or early '50s. The Comet automobile was introduced by Mercury in the
1960 model year. The band was called the Comets because of Haley's comet.
I think 1960 was the last year for the generator/power steering
combination. That's just a guess, though. Wild Bill
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com, INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com
Bob,
Love reading your mail and talking to a number of readers. I own a 55 2
door
post but I'm also looking for a 1966 chevy 2, ( nova ), 2 door "POST".
Looking for a nice clean virgin or one that hasn't been butchered. May
sacrifice for a 67, but not interested in a hardtop or SS. (not, nodda).
Anyone out there know of one or see one in a paper. $ 100.00 finders fee.
Thanks, Rod......
chevyba55@aol.com.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@gate.net
The Styleline Dlx Bel Air refersto the first Bel Air of
the early 50's. Chevys first Sport Coupe (two Door
Hardtop) was the Styleline DELUXE Bel Air. I believe
the designation' Styleline' was last used in 1952.
JimJ.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bill Kautz", INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob,
Regarding Scott and RJ's question about the Styleline DeLuxe Bel Air.
Yes, there was such a car. In 1949 Chevy gave a new name to the Stylemaster
line of cars. It was Styleline. The four levels of Chevrolet were
Styleline, Fleetline, Styleline DeLuxe and Fleetline DeLuxe. In the 1950
model year, Chevrolet introduced the Bel Air name for the first time. It
was a Styleline DeLuxe hardtop coupe, what we now cal a 2 door hardtop,
having no center pillar. In 1953 the Bel Air became a separate line,
followed by the 210 DeLuxe and then the 150 DeLuxe. The models remained the
same for the '54 model run. Everybody knows what followed the '54s! Wild
Bill
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:bmcnulty@csuchico.edu
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
Those two holes you've noted on the sides of the "nut" portion of the M/Cyl
reservoir cap are indeed vent holes. They're supposed to be there.
They must be open in order that fluid can flow, by gravity, down into the
cylinder when the piston is at the rear of its' stroke (and the reservoir
port
is uncovered). I suppose one could construct some type of "dehydrating bag"
to
place within a confined space above the fluid. You'd have to design a large
enough chamber with a diaphragm above (like on more modern brake
M/Cylinders) to
compensate for the volume change as fluid flows in and out of the cylinder,
though. Personally, I'd rather just change my DOT 4 brake fluid every 3-4
years
- which would be a good idea anyway.
r
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Chevy55", INTERNET:chevy55@snip.net
I have relisted my 55 belair on e-bay.Please post. If any is interested
item#526582365 please feel free to contact me.Thanks Frank.e-mail is
chevy55@snip.net Thanks Bob
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: Terry Jett, INTERNET:TJett@AASIAircraft.com
Bob, thanks for all the information on Tri-5's. I would like some help
from
our group, I have a 56 Pontiac Chieftain that is very nice but am looking
to
trade for a 55 or 56 2 door Chevy. The Pontiac has been stored for over
ten
years after a 10k investment in being painted, a new interior installed and
all the chrome and stainless had been redone, wrapped and placed in the
car.
It does not have a motor, transmission or drive shaft, everything else is
there.. pictures available. I would like to trade for a 2 door with recent
mechanical upgrades, straight and dry. thanks in advance from long beach,
ca. tjett@aasiaircraft.com
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To: "'Bob Ford 55-57 chevy news letter'", BOB_FORD
From: "Foote, Ron", INTERNET:rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com
Bob,
an answer for Bob in Chico question:
the nut portion on the cap was badly knarled so I used a file to
try and square up the surfaces again. I notice a pinhole on two opposite
aces of the nut. Did I file to far or are these breather holes? I forgot
to look before I filed.
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I believe the answer is yes you need them for venting. It's kind of like
the
Sun Tea Jar.
You can't get the tea out unless it has a vent. If you used your brake and
then pumped it, the
second time you would not have brake fluid in the plunger area. The caps
are
soft so you might
be able to pock a small wire through the cap from the inside.
Ron Foote
* e-mail: <mailto:rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com>
rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:LWatts1054@aol.com, INTERNET:LWatts1054@aol.com
happy holidays bob and i enjoy your site, most info is very interesting to
read. i have a few parts that i would like to attempt to sell.
55-57 emergency brake handle assy, restored, painted black. - $35
56 heads, serial #3837064, A276, good condition. - $25.
55-57 rear door outside handles, VG chrome. - $20/PR.
55-57 6 cyl. coil bracket, like new. - $4.
55-57 6 cyl throttle linkage, mounts to firewall, like new. - $20.
55-56 powerglide PRNDL indiactor wire. - $3.
57 grill bar, good chrome, turn signal housings, bottom of center section
broken out.
maybe someone can rebuild, make a custom bar?? - $20 plus shipping from
parts are plus shipping costs, thank you.
lee watts
(602) 867-7640
phoenix, az. 85032
email - lwatts1054@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Robert Willis", INTERNET:willisb@kos.net
I read a good post about the frames that were made for our cars . I didn't
realize that G.M. farmed out some of their frames in the 50s to the O.A.
Smith Co. I would have to think that Smith sent G.M. the frame rails in
pieces and they were welded together on a jig . It would be easier to ship
to the assembly plants than complete frames . Also I own a 57 Corvette (
The forgotten 55-57 ) and it has a two piece frame , If Smith made the
Vette frames and they are two piece , I would think the two piece pass.
frames were stamped out by them . It's hard to say who did the welding .
Does anybody have assembly line pictures ? BOB. willisb@kos.net
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Bob -The Styleline designation was used until 1953 to describe body
styles. In '53 came the familiar 150, 210 & Bel Air titles.
52 and earlier had the styleline and the fleetline in both special and
deluxe series. Styleline looked like one small box on top of a larger
box, fleetline was a fastback. By '52, fleetlines were down to one 4
door deluxe series.
I cannot imagine how a 55 thru 57 Rochester carburetor could operate
without a steel ball in the bottom of the accelerator pump well. Doug
Roe's excellent book on Rochester Carbs shows them on Monojets, 2G and
4G series as a "pump discharge ball". ISBN on this book is
0-89586-301-4. A great source of both theory and practical applications
and even a section on modifications.
Merry Christmas to Bob and all the gang on the list.
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
http://community.webtv.net/mr55chev/555657CHEV
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:KMarang@mmcable.com, INTERNET:KMarang@mmcable.com
>>>Editor's note. Anyone remember when car radios had vibrators that
would run a battery down in hurry?
BOB<<<
Yes Bob. In fact, here in OKC we are lucky enough to still have a
Drive-In Theater. This past September our club had a "Drive-In" night. I
had not been to a drive-in in 20 years, so I was expecting to still have
speakers for each car. Remember hanging the speaker on the window? (I
lived in Ohio at the time.. then you would roll up the window and try
not freeze.. using MANY different means. LOL!) Well when I got to this
theater I found that they broadcast the movie audio on AM and FM and
there are no more speakers. My original 56 BelAir's pushbutton AM radio
would have killed my battery! I was in a quandry, but thanks to other
COCCC members who shared their radios, we had a very nice time. (Didn't
get to steam up the windows like in the old days though... )
--
Keith Marang
COCCC Webmaster (Central Oklahoma Classic Chevy Club)
Visit our website ...
http://www.55-57chevys.com
http://www.classicchevyclub.com
http://www.okchevys.com
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To: "'BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM'", BOB_FORD
From: "Matsuoka, Mel", INTERNET:MMatsuoka@shaklee.com
Hi Bob,
Getting ready to get the 56 210, 2 door sedan in for body &
paint. I'm going to need a full set of glass (front & rear windshields
plus side glass). I'm not looking for numbers correct glass, just good
replacement. Can this be done from most Auto Glass shops or are there
shops
that specialize in the Tri-5's? If so, who/where are they and I can
guess
that it would be pretty expensive seeing that it's a special cut, correct?
Happy Holidays to you, your family and fellow members!
Thanks,
Mel
Editor's note. I got flat glass for my 57 at 503-667-4329. Very
reasonable price.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com
THE BOB FORD LIST got mentioned in this months Bow Tie Club magazine "Chevy
Times". In the article about a red/white '55 BelAir.
Kim
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
I have to disagree, Bob, with your answer to what NOS means. You are
correct in that it stands for New Old Stock, but as far as my
understanding, these are not new parts - as if they were made new
yesterday or in the last year - but new parts made a long time ago that
have never been used. That is, someone may have found parts at a Chevy
dealership that have been sitting on the self for 40 some years. These
would be NOS - "new" parts in "old stock". A new part made or
reproduced now or recently is not NOS. Years ago at the Portland,
Oregon, swap meet, I bought 3 deluxe heater valves that are in the
original boxes with GM numbers and all. These would be NOS. A heater
valve made today as a replacement would not be NOS even if it was made
as an exact duplicate. I believe there is a term NROS which means New
Replacement Old Stock. This would be a part that was made as a
replacement part, 40 years ago or so, but not one that matches or is
made by a GM company. Another example, if you were to find a
"tar-top" battery sitting on a shelf or 40-45 years that would be NOS.
If you were to find another type of battery that had also been sitting
on a shelf for 40-45 years that would be NROS. A newly manufactured
"tar-top" battery is not NOS. Anyone selling or advertising it to be
so, in my opinion, is making a fraudulent claim.
Phillip
Editor's note. I had to go back and check what I said about NOS. This is
it.
>> Editor's note. NOS stands for New Old Stock. These are new parts made
>by the company that built the car as replacement parts.
> BOB
>>
Here is my understanding of what New Old Stock means. I invite list
members to let me know
if they agree or disagree.
"New Old Stock parts are parts made by GM with the same part number as the
part number of the part on the car when it was built."
There are some parts on the TriFives that you can go to a Chevy dealer
today and buy then new. They have the same part number as the original
part. These are not old parts in the sense they were built many years ago.
They are still used in recently built cars. Are these NOS parts?
If a part is not made by GM, I don't think it can be called New Old Stock.
I have heard these parts called NORS meaning New Old Reproduction Stock.
List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
judged, how do NOS parts affect the juding?
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com, INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com
My newly rebuilt 1955 265 Rochester 2 barrel (2G) carburetor has two check
balls in the accelerator pump circuit at inlet and outlet. They are shown
in
the rebuild kit instructions and also in my 1957 Motor's Manual Rochester
section. I have a hesitation which feels like insufficient pump action. I
checked for vacuum (the idle is very smooth) leaks, maximized the pump
stroke
and raised the float level 1/4 inch higher than specified. It still
hesitates on acceleration. Am I missing something?
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
949-533-7211 cellular
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com, INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com
Hi Bob,
Tube radios had vibrators to chop the DC so the transformer could step up
the
voltage. When low voltage/low current transistorized radios became the
standard about 1962 we no longer needed the vibrator and the power-hungry
tubes that could quickly run your battery down.
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
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Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 9:20 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
Styleline was a Chevy series from 1949 to 1952 (the Bel Air of those
years as the top Chevy series). The first Bel Air was in 1951 and a
"hardtop" (no post) version of the Styleline Deluxe series.
Therefore, an old Chevy guy might still call, after 1952, a top of the
line series, a Styleline even though Chevy dropped the name in '52 when
Bel Air became the top series. Similar to 1958 when the top Bel Air
model (the conv and sport coupe{"hardtop"}) became an Impala and then in
1959, the Impala became the top series with the Bel Air the second
series (similar to the 210 model in 55-57). Before 1949, the top series
was a called a Stylemaster. The Fleetline was the "fastback" model
(2-dr and 4 dr) from '49 through '52.
Phillip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Juan Bezanilla", INTERNET:jbezanil@hotmail.com
Bob--
In regards to H. Smith's question on "backward-spinning wheels" in cinema:
Wheels appear to spin backwards because of the film speed used in the
filming. If the number of frames per second is faster than the number of
wheel rotations per second, the camera will "photograph" the wheel just
short of its next complete revolution. The next frame captures the exact
same thing. And the next. And so on. The result is a wheel that appears
to spin in a direction opposite to the car's movement. If the frame speed
=
the revolution/second speed, the result is a "still" wheel.
JB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rick Williams", INTERNET:rickerwill@worldnet.att.net
Not to further prolong a non-Chevy topic, but . . .
Kevin, in Delaware, offered a simplified explanation of the theory of
flight
(Bernoulli principle creating low pressure over an airfoil, thus resulting
in lift to counter gravity). How then do we explain inverted flight with
the same airfoil? Would not the low pressure area then be UNDER the wing,
causing the plane to plummet from the sky as the "lift" forced it downward?
Is this "counterforce" overcome by shear brute thrust? MAN! I learn a lot
on this list! ;>)
Reno Rick
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Rich Hoff", INTERNET:rhoff@tsi-telsys.com
Bob
Here is some trivia for you.
2. The band of Bill Haley (Rock Around the Clock) was named after what car?
I believe Bill Haley named his band after the celestial body COMET, not the
car. Bill Haley changed the name of his band to the Comets in 1952.
Mercury
didn't make the Comet until 1960.
Rich Hoff
HMCCC
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
I have to ask the same question as RJ. I've had or been around Tri-Fives
since High School and never heard of a "Styleline Delux." Who came up
with
that and what is it referring to? I may be missing something here since I
don't drive my '56 Nomad all that much. It just turned over 700 miles
last
month.
Scott >>
Me too Bob, As you know, I'm a member of the Geiser Club & have been around
these cars quite a long time (have had MY 56 for 28 years!) And I too,
have
never heard of a Styleline Deluxe! !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@ Someone Help us
all out, please! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/00 8:02:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
BOB_FORD@compuserve.com writes:
<< Editor's note. Anyone remember when car radios had vibrators that would
run a battery down in hurry?
BOB >>
Yeah Bob, like the one in my 56 Chevy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
I would just like to wish everyone on the list and their familes a "Happy
Holiday Season."
Last year at this time, my sister had just went through a Bone Marrow
transplant for Luekemia. Things didn't look good for a long time. A LOT of
nice people I met on the net, prayed for her, a person none of THEM had
ever
met.
My sister returned to work this past week, her first in over a year. The
Lord was VERY kind to her.
This truly will be a "Happy" season for my family, I hope for yours as
well.
Thanks. RJ
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Warren Kramer", INTERNET:wrkchevy@hotmail.com
Bob,
I see compliments on your site every update and there is a reason; It is a
great site; I have to check my mail every night to see the next "edition".
I have to respond to John Lynn's comments about our current generation of
children. Most of the kids in high school and in their 20's do not know
even 10 state capitol's and their states. The average is 3 (THREE).
Is anyone glad to see that we have a president? Of course; but how many
people realize what has just occurred!!!
Our country survived, without even blinking, what most countrys could not
have. With a few exceptions, most would have been taken over by the
military - we survived.
The sad part is that most of the young people don't even care; "I'm so
tired
of seeing that on TV." Etc. They do not realize the total ramifications of
all that went on, nor do they care. In fact, many won't even remember in
the next election.
Enough - it's time to get back to the thrust of this site. Bob, Keep up
the
good work.
Merry CHRISTmas to you and all your readers.
Warren
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
BOB
your website is great. does anyone know of any other websites like this for
selling ford or chrysler parts?
I've also used chevytalk.com and that site is real good too?
ken weinstein buffalo, new york
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "kenneth weinstein", INTERNET:kmw57@hotmail.com
BOB
parts for sale: chevy fenderskirts 1955, 57, 58,60,61, 62 all used 2/99,
1967 chevy nos 2/125,right rear 57 bumper end 1st generation $130,
1957 nos hoodrockets 2 pieces for $50(THIS WOULD MAKE A NICE X-MAS PRESENT)
1957 radio-manual needs repairs? $25,
wheelcovers full size 1955-64 4/$80, supersport 1962, 63, 64 ,67 4
$120, oldsmobile 1966 spinners with 3 bars for someone who wants their car
to look a little different 4/$120,</P>
wheels(can't ship)1958-62 14 inch $35 each</P>
seatcovers- mostcars 1935-80- aftermarket patterns(usually plaid vinyl with
hog rings) $85 percar
ken weinstein 44 valleybrook ln. e.amherst, n.y. 14051
716-689-6888 nites
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bill Kautz", INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob,
In answer to Roy's question about the safest SUV for his wife, it's the
Hummer. It will roll over anything else with 4 wheels!
Also, Bill Haley's band was the Comets but not named for the FOMOCO
product of that name. The Bill Haley group actually started in the late
'40s or early '50s. The Comet automobile was introduced by Mercury in the
1960 model year. The band was called the Comets because of Haley's comet.
I think 1960 was the last year for the generator/power steering
combination. That's just a guess, though. Wild Bill
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com, INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com
Bob,
Love reading your mail and talking to a number of readers. I own a 55 2
door
post but I'm also looking for a 1966 chevy 2, ( nova ), 2 door "POST".
Looking for a nice clean virgin or one that hasn't been butchered. May
sacrifice for a 67, but not interested in a hardtop or SS. (not, nodda).
Anyone out there know of one or see one in a paper. $ 100.00 finders fee.
Thanks, Rod......
chevyba55@aol.com.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@gate.net
The Styleline Dlx Bel Air refersto the first Bel Air of
the early 50's. Chevys first Sport Coupe (two Door
Hardtop) was the Styleline DELUXE Bel Air. I believe
the designation' Styleline' was last used in 1952.
JimJ.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bill Kautz", INTERNET:kautz@home.com
Hi Bob,
Regarding Scott and RJ's question about the Styleline DeLuxe Bel Air.
Yes, there was such a car. In 1949 Chevy gave a new name to the Stylemaster
line of cars. It was Styleline. The four levels of Chevrolet were
Styleline, Fleetline, Styleline DeLuxe and Fleetline DeLuxe. In the 1950
model year, Chevrolet introduced the Bel Air name for the first time. It
was a Styleline DeLuxe hardtop coupe, what we now cal a 2 door hardtop,
having no center pillar. In 1953 the Bel Air became a separate line,
followed by the 210 DeLuxe and then the 150 DeLuxe. The models remained the
same for the '54 model run. Everybody knows what followed the '54s! Wild
Bill
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:bmcnulty@csuchico.edu
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com
Those two holes you've noted on the sides of the "nut" portion of the M/Cyl
reservoir cap are indeed vent holes. They're supposed to be there.
They must be open in order that fluid can flow, by gravity, down into the
cylinder when the piston is at the rear of its' stroke (and the reservoir
port
is uncovered). I suppose one could construct some type of "dehydrating bag"
to
place within a confined space above the fluid. You'd have to design a large
enough chamber with a diaphragm above (like on more modern brake
M/Cylinders) to
compensate for the volume change as fluid flows in and out of the cylinder,
though. Personally, I'd rather just change my DOT 4 brake fluid every 3-4
years
- which would be a good idea anyway.
r
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Chevy55", INTERNET:chevy55@snip.net
I have relisted my 55 belair on e-bay.Please post. If any is interested
item#526582365 please feel free to contact me.Thanks Frank.e-mail is
chevy55@snip.net Thanks Bob
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: Terry Jett, INTERNET:TJett@AASIAircraft.com
Bob, thanks for all the information on Tri-5's. I would like some help
from
our group, I have a 56 Pontiac Chieftain that is very nice but am looking
to
trade for a 55 or 56 2 door Chevy. The Pontiac has been stored for over
ten
years after a 10k investment in being painted, a new interior installed and
all the chrome and stainless had been redone, wrapped and placed in the
car.
It does not have a motor, transmission or drive shaft, everything else is
there.. pictures available. I would like to trade for a 2 door with recent
mechanical upgrades, straight and dry. thanks in advance from long beach,
ca. tjett@aasiaircraft.com
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To: "'Bob Ford 55-57 chevy news letter'", BOB_FORD
From: "Foote, Ron", INTERNET:rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com
Bob,
an answer for Bob in Chico question:
the nut portion on the cap was badly knarled so I used a file to
try and square up the surfaces again. I notice a pinhole on two opposite
aces of the nut. Did I file to far or are these breather holes? I forgot
to look before I filed.
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I believe the answer is yes you need them for venting. It's kind of like
the
Sun Tea Jar.
You can't get the tea out unless it has a vent. If you used your brake and
then pumped it, the
second time you would not have brake fluid in the plunger area. The caps
are
soft so you might
be able to pock a small wire through the cap from the inside.
Ron Foote
* e-mail: <mailto:rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com>
rfoote@aerostructures.bfg.com
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:LWatts1054@aol.com, INTERNET:LWatts1054@aol.com
happy holidays bob and i enjoy your site, most info is very interesting to
read. i have a few parts that i would like to attempt to sell.
55-57 emergency brake handle assy, restored, painted black. - $35
56 heads, serial #3837064, A276, good condition. - $25.
55-57 rear door outside handles, VG chrome. - $20/PR.
55-57 6 cyl. coil bracket, like new. - $4.
55-57 6 cyl throttle linkage, mounts to firewall, like new. - $20.
55-56 powerglide PRNDL indiactor wire. - $3.
57 grill bar, good chrome, turn signal housings, bottom of center section
broken out.
maybe someone can rebuild, make a custom bar?? - $20 plus shipping from
parts are plus shipping costs, thank you.
lee watts
(602) 867-7640
phoenix, az. 85032
email - lwatts1054@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Robert Willis", INTERNET:willisb@kos.net
I read a good post about the frames that were made for our cars . I didn't
realize that G.M. farmed out some of their frames in the 50s to the O.A.
Smith Co. I would have to think that Smith sent G.M. the frame rails in
pieces and they were welded together on a jig . It would be easier to ship
to the assembly plants than complete frames . Also I own a 57 Corvette (
The forgotten 55-57 ) and it has a two piece frame , If Smith made the
Vette frames and they are two piece , I would think the two piece pass.
frames were stamped out by them . It's hard to say who did the welding .
Does anybody have assembly line pictures ? BOB. willisb@kos.net
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Bob -The Styleline designation was used until 1953 to describe body
styles. In '53 came the familiar 150, 210 & Bel Air titles.
52 and earlier had the styleline and the fleetline in both special and
deluxe series. Styleline looked like one small box on top of a larger
box, fleetline was a fastback. By '52, fleetlines were down to one 4
door deluxe series.
I cannot imagine how a 55 thru 57 Rochester carburetor could operate
without a steel ball in the bottom of the accelerator pump well. Doug
Roe's excellent book on Rochester Carbs shows them on Monojets, 2G and
4G series as a "pump discharge ball". ISBN on this book is
0-89586-301-4. A great source of both theory and practical applications
and even a section on modifications.
Merry Christmas to Bob and all the gang on the list.
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
http://community.webtv.net/mr55chev/555657CHEV
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:KMarang@mmcable.com, INTERNET:KMarang@mmcable.com
>>>Editor's note. Anyone remember when car radios had vibrators that
would run a battery down in hurry?
BOB<<<
Yes Bob. In fact, here in OKC we are lucky enough to still have a
Drive-In Theater. This past September our club had a "Drive-In" night. I
had not been to a drive-in in 20 years, so I was expecting to still have
speakers for each car. Remember hanging the speaker on the window? (I
lived in Ohio at the time.. then you would roll up the window and try
not freeze.. using MANY different means. LOL!) Well when I got to this
theater I found that they broadcast the movie audio on AM and FM and
there are no more speakers. My original 56 BelAir's pushbutton AM radio
would have killed my battery! I was in a quandry, but thanks to other
COCCC members who shared their radios, we had a very nice time. (Didn't
get to steam up the windows like in the old days though... )
--
Keith Marang
COCCC Webmaster (Central Oklahoma Classic Chevy Club)
Visit our website ...
http://www.55-57chevys.com
http://www.classicchevyclub.com
http://www.okchevys.com
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To: "'BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM'", BOB_FORD
From: "Matsuoka, Mel", INTERNET:MMatsuoka@shaklee.com
Hi Bob,
Getting ready to get the 56 210, 2 door sedan in for body &
paint. I'm going to need a full set of glass (front & rear windshields
plus side glass). I'm not looking for numbers correct glass, just good
replacement. Can this be done from most Auto Glass shops or are there
shops
that specialize in the Tri-5's? If so, who/where are they and I can
guess
that it would be pretty expensive seeing that it's a special cut, correct?
Happy Holidays to you, your family and fellow members!
Thanks,
Mel
Editor's note. I got flat glass for my 57 at 503-667-4329. Very
reasonable price.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@collins.rockwell.com
THE BOB FORD LIST got mentioned in this months Bow Tie Club magazine "Chevy
Times". In the article about a red/white '55 BelAir.
Kim
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
I have to disagree, Bob, with your answer to what NOS means. You are
correct in that it stands for New Old Stock, but as far as my
understanding, these are not new parts - as if they were made new
yesterday or in the last year - but new parts made a long time ago that
have never been used. That is, someone may have found parts at a Chevy
dealership that have been sitting on the self for 40 some years. These
would be NOS - "new" parts in "old stock". A new part made or
reproduced now or recently is not NOS. Years ago at the Portland,
Oregon, swap meet, I bought 3 deluxe heater valves that are in the
original boxes with GM numbers and all. These would be NOS. A heater
valve made today as a replacement would not be NOS even if it was made
as an exact duplicate. I believe there is a term NROS which means New
Replacement Old Stock. This would be a part that was made as a
replacement part, 40 years ago or so, but not one that matches or is
made by a GM company. Another example, if you were to find a
"tar-top" battery sitting on a shelf or 40-45 years that would be NOS.
If you were to find another type of battery that had also been sitting
on a shelf for 40-45 years that would be NROS. A newly manufactured
"tar-top" battery is not NOS. Anyone selling or advertising it to be
so, in my opinion, is making a fraudulent claim.
Phillip
Editor's note. I had to go back and check what I said about NOS. This is
it.
>> Editor's note. NOS stands for New Old Stock. These are new parts made
>by the company that built the car as replacement parts.
> BOB
>>
Here is my understanding of what New Old Stock means. I invite list
members to let me know
if they agree or disagree.
"New Old Stock parts are parts made by GM with the same part number as the
part number of the part on the car when it was built."
There are some parts on the TriFives that you can go to a Chevy dealer
today and buy then new. They have the same part number as the original
part. These are not old parts in the sense they were built many years ago.
They are still used in recently built cars. Are these NOS parts?
If a part is not made by GM, I don't think it can be called New Old Stock.
I have heard these parts called NORS meaning New Old Reproduction Stock.
List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
judged, how do NOS parts affect the juding?
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com, INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com
My newly rebuilt 1955 265 Rochester 2 barrel (2G) carburetor has two check
balls in the accelerator pump circuit at inlet and outlet. They are shown
in
the rebuild kit instructions and also in my 1957 Motor's Manual Rochester
section. I have a hesitation which feels like insufficient pump action. I
checked for vacuum (the idle is very smooth) leaks, maximized the pump
stroke
and raised the float level 1/4 inch higher than specified. It still
hesitates on acceleration. Am I missing something?
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
949-533-7211 cellular
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com, INTERNET:McGillis@aol.com
Hi Bob,
Tube radios had vibrators to chop the DC so the transformer could step up
the
voltage. When low voltage/low current transistorized radios became the
standard about 1962 we no longer needed the vibrator and the power-hungry
tubes that could quickly run your battery down.
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
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