TriChrome
03-06-2018, 11:55 PM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:42 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "55chevy57", INTERNET:55chevy57@email.msn.com
BOB
I NEED FOR A 57 210 2 DR SEDAN THE REAR OUTSIDE BELT MOLDINGS IF ANYONE HAS
THESE PLEASE E-MAIL OR CALL ME AT 502-955-7241 OR 55CHEVY57@MSN.COM
ALSO FOR SALE 56 CHEVY AUTOMATIC STEERING COLUMN AND WHEEL THE COLUMN HAS
BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT ASKING 300.00 THE WHEEL IS COMPLETE WITH THE CENTER
CAP
EMAIL ME AT 55CHEVY57@MSN.COM
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Leonardjohn@firestoneindustrial.com,
I was talking to a man from Australia at the SEMA show in Las Vegas
this past November. He was a member of the local 55-56-57 club in the
Queensland area. He informed me that all the Australian 57's used 55-56
dashes. Being right-hand-drive, the 55-56 dash is symmetrical and saved
tooling cost over a 57 specific RHD dash. He also mentioned that the vast
majority of 55-57 Aussie cars are 4-doors. Obviously a marketing decision
somewhere there. Just to further my education on these cars; Does anyone
know which dash trim an Australian 57 used? Was it the 57 Bel Air pattern
in the contour of a 55-56 dash? No one will ever ask us for one at the
store, but I was just curious. Thanks, John at Restoration World.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: bmyers, INTERNET:bmyers@spis.net
Bob,
I recently purchased a '57 2-door post 210. The individual I bought it
from had started a resto on it, but apparently had no idea what he was
doing. He replaced and installed the window seals, headliner and door
panels before he started on the body work.
Now, I am in no way an expert myself. This is my first tri-5. I have
completed a couple of trucks. So, I have a little experience under my belt
and have found that research (no matter how exhausting) is the best way to
keep from doing something that you may regret later.
My question is: Where can I find manuals, books, instructions, etc. on
removal and installation of the window seals. These are new seals and I
would like to remove them without damaging them.
I am sure this is a simple process, but I just want to be sure I do it
right.
All the trim is there and in pretty good shape, But a lot of the steel
brackets that hold it on are rusted away or were broke off when the "not so
smart guy" jerked them off the car.
Every square inch of wiring was ripped out of the car also. Keep in
mind, that he had started putting the car back together to the point of
putting the seats back in.
So, any advice on installing a wiring harness, would be greatly
appreciated.
I have always wanted a '57, and now that I have one, I want to do it
right.
As time goes on I will be bothering you for more how-to answers and
keeping you updated on my progress.
Thanks
Brian Myers
bmyers@spis.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com, INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com
Hi Bob,
I have a '55 4 door, 210. This is my everyday driver for the past 10 years.
It is going in for a make over this winter and I have a few ideas.
I would like to suicide the rear doors and I need to know if anyone has
done
this before and if so what the difficulty level is. Also does anyone make
hinges for this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jack
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Cecil Repshire, INTERNET:cruzin_usa55@yahoo.com
Hi, Bob and Happy Holidays to you and all your family.
I read the two lists I get from you every week-end,
thanks and keep up the good work. Cecil
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Troy Pepus", INTERNET:tpepus@hotmail.com
Bob,
I've been receiving your list e-mails since this past Sept. and always look
forward to it. How long ago did you start this list, and how many members
are we? Keep up the good work, and may everyone in our "club" have a safe
and happy holiday season.
Troy
Hampton, Tenn.
Editor's note. The list is now 3 years old. It has over 3000 members.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
>
> List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
> judged, how do NOS parts affect the judging?
>
> BOB
>
HI List
It depends on who is judging in my opinion. The NOS parts fit better but
doesn't really matter in my 56 -:)
thanks
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
781-397-1322
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
> Me too Bob, As you know, I'm a member of the Geiser Club & have been
around
>
> these cars quite a long time (have had MY 56 for 28 years!) And I too,
> have
> never heard of a Styleline Deluxe! !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@ Someone Help
us
> all out, please! Richard
>
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>
Hi everyone --- a styline deluxe is a FORD with a GLASS roof-
eeek.
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
781-397-1322
D56chevy@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
USED PARTS FOR SALE: 4dr sedan quarter window garnish moldings $5ea; 55
210
4dr interior door panel stainless trim $25set; 57 6cyl starter $25;
station
wagon lift gate stainless trim $15ea; 210 2dr sedan beltline moldings
below
windows $80set; 57 210 lefthand short dash trim, polished $15; 55 upper
quarter panel diagonal paint divider $25ea; 56/57 150 lower windshield
corner molding $20ea; sedan rear windshield stainless set $80; 56 BA 2dr
hardtop/convertible upper quarter panel paint dividers, excellent shape
$35ea; 210 hardtop driver's lower vent window molding $35.
Shipping extra.
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
I recently had the pleasure of seeing the film Rock Around the Clock on
cable and it was fantastic. I had never seen it before and was wondering
what all the fuss was about. Listening to the smart dialogue, country
accents, dancing, etc. was a pleasure. I had the feeling of seeing how
rock and roll really started - in these small, nondescript towns with some
kids wanting to have fun on a Saturday night.
Can anyone tell me who that wonderful dancer was? she had dark hair and
danced throughout the film. Did she get any other parts in
movies?
What do others here think about this movie?
Louis
> 2. The band of Bill Haley (Rock Around the Clock) was named after what
car?
>
> I believe Bill Haley named his band after the celestial body COMET, not
the
> car. Bill Haley changed the name of his band to the Comets in 1952.
> Mercury
> didn't make the Comet until 1960.
>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< --------------------------------------------------------
kenneth city, FL $12,000.00
1957 Chevrolet STYLELINE DLX BELAIR, 57 chevy sedan new paint job
blk. all original 250 6cyl auto. needs int. work $12000.00 O.B.O.
(727)548-9762 (727) 548-9762 >>
No such thing as an ORIGINAL 250 6 cyl. engine in 1957
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< My newly rebuilt 1955 265 Rochester 2 barrel (2G) carburetor has two
check
balls in the accelerator pump circuit at inlet and outlet. They are shown
in
the rebuild kit instructions and also in my 1957 Motor's Manual Rochester
section. I have a hesitation which feels like insufficient pump action.
I
checked for vacuum (the idle is very smooth) leaks, maximized the pump
stroke
and raised the float level 1/4 inch higher than specified. It still
hesitates on acceleration. Am I missing something?
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
949-533-7211 cellular >>
Dennis, first of all, I would set that float setting back to where it is
supposed to be, a 1/4 inch is a LOT to be off in a float setting. You will
probably flood you car easily and/or burn excessive gas by having a high
float setting! Float settings are very critical. I would also set the pump
stroke back to where it is supposed to be! If it's too high, that can cause
a
hesitation. Try taking off the air horn(top) of your carb & very
carefully
with a small screwdriver, spread the rubber on the pump plunger OUTWARD, as
to slightly increase the diameter. Be careful not to bend or distort the
spring inside the rubber !!!!!!!!!!! Are you SURE you used the NEW pump
plunger & not the old one by Mistake????? GOOD LUCK!
Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< There are some parts on the TriFives that you can go to a Chevy dealer
today and buy then new. They have the same part number as the original
part. These are not old parts in the sense they were built many years
ago.
They are still used in recently built cars. Are these NOS parts?
Bob, I don't believe these parts can be called NOS! Breaking down the NOS,
this is what it means: N= New-a never used part,regardless of
its
age!
O=Old-meaning the part is just that-OLD, being
produced by Chevrolet, GM, Delco/Remy or whoever made the part for these
cars
way back then, when these parts were meant to replace a part on these cars
when many were still on the road as every day drivers, (if that same part,
even with the same # on it, is still made today, I guarantee you that it
will
NOT be made exactly the same way it was back then!!!!!!!!! Just because a
part has the original stock # on it, does not make it an NOS part. Many
reproduction parts for these cars are produced with the original stock # on
them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
S= Stock=meaning the part in reference to, that
had
been sitting on a shelf, stored in a warehouse or wherever!
If a part is not made by GM, I don't think it can be called New Old Stock.
I have heard these parts called NORS meaning New Old Reproduction Stock.
List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
judged, how do NOS parts affect the judging?
As far as judging goes, basically we judge the overall CONDITION of the
car,
& many times it is very difficult to distinguish an NOS part from a REPRO
part. Example: I have NOS fender birds & gravel guards on my 56, & I have
seen the reproduction ones, You can NOT tell the difference!!!!!!! I have
seen MANY very high point cars with MANY reproduction parts on
them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the best way to
learn about these type of things is to attend a convention & JUDGE !!!!!!
Richard
BOB >>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Mel, You should be able to get all the glass for your 56, except Maybe
the
Rear glass! Your local body shop should be able to order it for you. If
they can't, you can get them through Classic Chevy Club in Florida.
Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
In my part of the woods, anything left over from when Classic Chevies were
produced and wasn't/hasn't been used is called: "NOS." (New Old Stock)
Any parts produced now is called: "REPO." (as in Reproduction)
Like the NOS silver Grill I used when I restored my one owner '57 210
4-door
Sedan, or the Repo W W Tires I stuck on it.
Thanks to all the list members who answered my question about "Styline
DLX."
But I still have yet to see a Styline DLX 5 - 6 or 7 Chevy.
Thanks. RJ
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "ROBERT FORD", INTERNET:1drag_racer@email.msn.com
My dad was a Supervisor at A.O.Smith in Granite City, Illinois for quite a
few years. I remember as a little guy in the mid sixties going out there
with my mom to pick him up, and seeing the rail cars with stacks of
completed frames on them, maybe 15 high, getting ready to be sent over to
St. Louis, Mo.It's not a long journey by rail, as you can see the Gateway
Arch in ST. Louis from A.O.Smith--it's right across the Mississippi River.
He said these were Corvette frames. If I would have known then, what I know
now..........my Christmas list would have been a little different than the
normal 6 year old!! Bob Ford in Granite City(not the Bob Ford from the
list--just another Bob Ford into 55-7 chevy's!!)
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com, INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com
Bob, regarding the term NOS, I also understand it to be original parts made
by GM for a particular during the production period of that model. i.e., 57
Chevy parts made from fall 1956 to fall 1957.
As far as judging goes, I don't think it really matters. Because you
almost
have to take the part off to find out whether it is NOS or not. I did a
frame off restoration on my 57 and used many reproduction parts, especially
stainless and chrome pieces and was never counted off for using them. In
fact the first CCI show I took it to was judged at 987 points, which in my
opinion is a very good first outing.
I once bought a tail fin piece which was reputed to be NOS however, I found
out later it was not even stainless but it had been chromed. I was told
that
some of these pieces were made this way. Needless to say I didn't use it.
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
Bob, I was trying to clarify that new parts made recently, even by GM,
even with the correct part number, etc, wouldn't, in my opinion, be
considered NOS. I suppose what has to be defined is the word
"recently". Does a part for a '55 made in '58, as a repair part, for
example, a ball joint or wheel bearing, count as NOS (I think it would)
VS a ball joint or wheel bearing made in 1990? Sometime, and I have no
idea where that "sometime" year is, a "new" part goes from NOS to a new
part. Usually, people think about NOS as parts that are not general
maintenance items, but items like accessories, original fabric, chrome,
even fenders, are all sought out and demand higher prices, usually, if
they are old new parts, ie, NOS, than a reproduction part. I felt
compelled to comment because I think your answer could be construed to
include any part, regardless of year of manufacture, if made by "the
company that built the car". Again, in my opinion and experience
(having owned a '55 since '78 - before most reproduction/remanufactured
parts were made for out Tri-Fives) NOS has always meant, old "new" parts
made by the company that built the car but with the caveat that they
were made in the same year or just several years after - not
recently. It could be that the definition of NOS has changed recently
and I'm out of date. Perhaps a comment by Cliff of Cliff's Classic
Chevy Parts or Donna of FiftiesForever would add to this NOS definition,
as both dealers in new and old parts.
Phillip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com, INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com
Bob,
New old stock (nos) refers to n=new, o=old and original production as
1955 thru 1965/1970, and stock=inventory as found in an old dealership.
Forty
year old box and forty year old workmanship. IMHO, Rod......
Reno Rick,
That airfoil thing has confused my over the years. Stick your hand out the
window at a slant going 60 mph. does your hand rise from lift or pressure
under your hand. My vote goes for the pressure and not the sucking or
absence
of pressure. I fly radio controlled and an inverted flight requires a lot
of
down on the elevator to drag the tail, which tilts the wings up and causes
the pressure on the top ( or now bottom of the wing ), keeping it in
flight.
IMHO, Rod........
Dennis,
Only one check ball used Dennis. In the accelerator well, the pump only
uses
it on the suction port. The pressure port to the veturi is so small that
one
is not required. IMHO ( in my humble opinion ) Rod.......
Merry Christmas to all and the true meaning of Christ our Saviour be not
forgotten.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Donna, INTERNET:Fiftiesforever@webtv.net
NOS parts are parts that were made by the original manufacturer, (GM for
example) and are now no longer available from that manufactured. They
have been discontinued by the manufacturer. If you can still purchase
that part over the counter it is not NOS. Even if an original part is
still available through GM now and next month it gets discontinued, it
then becomes NOS.
There are some NOS parts that are much older than others but they have
to be discontinued from the manufacturer to be called NOS. A part that
was discontinued from GM in the 60's has a great value because it has be
uavailable for 40 years. A part that was just discontinued last year
will not be as rare but nonetheless will have value also.
GM discontinues parts all the time. If you bought an original part
through GM with the original factory part #, and it becomes obsolete it
is now worth more than what you paid for it. Many people purchase NOS
parts even though you can buy that same part in a reproduction version.
They want to do their car in only original GM parts. They will pay much
more for those parts and will have to search all over the country to
find them.
Just look on Ebay under "nos corvette" or "nos Chevrolet". There are
hundreds of parts listed. You must however, be careful not to purchase a
new GM part listed as NOS but is really just a new part that you can
still purchase over the counter.
A car done in only nos parts will definitely be worth more than one done
with reproduction parts but it will cost much more to purchase those nos
parts.
Well, enough about NOS: I have to get ready for a Christmas Party!!
Happy Holidays to all!! Donna
Fifties Forever
206 Division Ave.
Garfield, NJ 07026
973-478-1306
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To: "Bob Ford", BOB_FORD
From: "Edward Shockley", INTERNET:drshock@insectria.net
Bob,
You asked about comments regarding NOS parts and the meaning.
Here's my view on it.
An NOS part has to be a new and unused part that not only has the same part
number as what the assembly line used, but also has the same design and no
longer be available. In many cases later parts, especially ones still
available thru GM SPO, are not of the same design as the original though
still retain the same number. In many cases these would not be
appropriate
in professionally judged events though would fit the specifications of the
engineers OK. For a specific example, in 1957 a set of AC 44 plugs had no
green stripes on the ridges. The same part number,1559492, was used well
into the 70s, but almost all that you see have the four green stripes.
But
this sort of "deviation" would probably only be taken into account in
Corvette events (NCRS style).
A part you can buy from GM today is simply "new", even if it has an "old"
number. If it happens to be perfectly identical to the vintage part, like
say the dipstick tube part # 3732488, then great - you can use it but its
still just a new GM part.
Another wrinkle is parts that are date coded in some way. Here it's not
enough to locate an NOS part, you have to find a "vintage" NOS part. One
made the same year your car was so that it has the proper date coding to
match your cars build date time line.
But then, all this hunting around for the right part(s) is half the fun
right....
Edward D. Shockley
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com, INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com
Hi gang,
Need seats for my 55 2 door sedan street rod. Anyone know what kind of
cars
would give me power seats and a fairly easy bolt in installation without
too
many mods? On rear ends, what year Fords would have the closest thing to
fitting in a 9" rear without major mods. A while back, I posted a request
to
help me locate a 55 210 2 door wagon that I used to own but have had no
responses. My state won't let you backtrack title history. If anyone on
the
list owns a wagon or has a friend that does, the serial number was:
B55J114687. The car was sold out of West Columbia, SC in 1978. The car
was
rust free back then so I would like to think that it still does exist. I
owned the car when I was in high school and we used to fold down the rear
seat and camp out in it. If located I would be interested in purchasing
but
if owner did not want to sell, I would hope they would keep my number just
in case they would change their minds or let me take a few pictures for old
times sake! Thanks for a great list and merry Christmas to all!
Steve Pritchard
ttypeturbo@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Skip & Mary, INTERNET:sandmmetz@webtv.net
Bob.
It would be great if you could post this request on the list.
I recently purchased the last 10 inches of trunk floor replacement
panel for my 56. The reason for doing so is the area where the latch
plate is supposed to be is gone due to rust. I need this latch or
whatever it is called. I'm not sure just what I need or what it looks
like. I haven't seen this part in any of the catalogs I have so I don't
even know if anyone is producing it. Does anyone know where I can get
one either new or used?
Thanks,
Skip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Barry", INTERNET:barrysd@earthlink.net
Bob:
After rebuilding the 605 power steering gearbox, I installed in into my 57
Chev 2 door hardtop. Although it definitely works, it fails to
automatical
ly return to center. In other words, whatever position the
steering wheel is in, it tends to remain there. Usually, power steering
finds the center of the road and guides itself.
Before someone suggests alignment, that's been done twice. None of the
ball
joints are overly tight and all 4 have been replaced. In addition, the
pitman arm bushing was replaced and isn't overly tight either. I also
tried
two different kinds of tires.
I've taken the 605 apart twice and all seems to be ok. What did I do to
the
605 (or fail to do to the 605) to make this happen?
Barry
Tucson
520-797-0265
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BOB_FORD/
http://members.home.net:80/rick.b/Bobford.htm
VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:42 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "55chevy57", INTERNET:55chevy57@email.msn.com
BOB
I NEED FOR A 57 210 2 DR SEDAN THE REAR OUTSIDE BELT MOLDINGS IF ANYONE HAS
THESE PLEASE E-MAIL OR CALL ME AT 502-955-7241 OR 55CHEVY57@MSN.COM
ALSO FOR SALE 56 CHEVY AUTOMATIC STEERING COLUMN AND WHEEL THE COLUMN HAS
BEEN COMPLETELY REBUILT ASKING 300.00 THE WHEEL IS COMPLETE WITH THE CENTER
CAP
EMAIL ME AT 55CHEVY57@MSN.COM
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Leonardjohn@firestoneindustrial.com,
I was talking to a man from Australia at the SEMA show in Las Vegas
this past November. He was a member of the local 55-56-57 club in the
Queensland area. He informed me that all the Australian 57's used 55-56
dashes. Being right-hand-drive, the 55-56 dash is symmetrical and saved
tooling cost over a 57 specific RHD dash. He also mentioned that the vast
majority of 55-57 Aussie cars are 4-doors. Obviously a marketing decision
somewhere there. Just to further my education on these cars; Does anyone
know which dash trim an Australian 57 used? Was it the 57 Bel Air pattern
in the contour of a 55-56 dash? No one will ever ask us for one at the
store, but I was just curious. Thanks, John at Restoration World.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: bmyers, INTERNET:bmyers@spis.net
Bob,
I recently purchased a '57 2-door post 210. The individual I bought it
from had started a resto on it, but apparently had no idea what he was
doing. He replaced and installed the window seals, headliner and door
panels before he started on the body work.
Now, I am in no way an expert myself. This is my first tri-5. I have
completed a couple of trucks. So, I have a little experience under my belt
and have found that research (no matter how exhausting) is the best way to
keep from doing something that you may regret later.
My question is: Where can I find manuals, books, instructions, etc. on
removal and installation of the window seals. These are new seals and I
would like to remove them without damaging them.
I am sure this is a simple process, but I just want to be sure I do it
right.
All the trim is there and in pretty good shape, But a lot of the steel
brackets that hold it on are rusted away or were broke off when the "not so
smart guy" jerked them off the car.
Every square inch of wiring was ripped out of the car also. Keep in
mind, that he had started putting the car back together to the point of
putting the seats back in.
So, any advice on installing a wiring harness, would be greatly
appreciated.
I have always wanted a '57, and now that I have one, I want to do it
right.
As time goes on I will be bothering you for more how-to answers and
keeping you updated on my progress.
Thanks
Brian Myers
bmyers@spis.net
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com, INTERNET:PSBoober@aol.com
Hi Bob,
I have a '55 4 door, 210. This is my everyday driver for the past 10 years.
It is going in for a make over this winter and I have a few ideas.
I would like to suicide the rear doors and I need to know if anyone has
done
this before and if so what the difficulty level is. Also does anyone make
hinges for this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jack
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Cecil Repshire, INTERNET:cruzin_usa55@yahoo.com
Hi, Bob and Happy Holidays to you and all your family.
I read the two lists I get from you every week-end,
thanks and keep up the good work. Cecil
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Troy Pepus", INTERNET:tpepus@hotmail.com
Bob,
I've been receiving your list e-mails since this past Sept. and always look
forward to it. How long ago did you start this list, and how many members
are we? Keep up the good work, and may everyone in our "club" have a safe
and happy holiday season.
Troy
Hampton, Tenn.
Editor's note. The list is now 3 years old. It has over 3000 members.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
>
> List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
> judged, how do NOS parts affect the judging?
>
> BOB
>
HI List
It depends on who is judging in my opinion. The NOS parts fit better but
doesn't really matter in my 56 -:)
thanks
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
781-397-1322
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
> Me too Bob, As you know, I'm a member of the Geiser Club & have been
around
>
> these cars quite a long time (have had MY 56 for 28 years!) And I too,
> have
> never heard of a Styleline Deluxe! !@#$%^&*()_+_)(*&^%$#@ Someone Help
us
> all out, please! Richard
>
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>
Hi everyone --- a styline deluxe is a FORD with a GLASS roof-
eeek.
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
781-397-1322
D56chevy@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
USED PARTS FOR SALE: 4dr sedan quarter window garnish moldings $5ea; 55
210
4dr interior door panel stainless trim $25set; 57 6cyl starter $25;
station
wagon lift gate stainless trim $15ea; 210 2dr sedan beltline moldings
below
windows $80set; 57 210 lefthand short dash trim, polished $15; 55 upper
quarter panel diagonal paint divider $25ea; 56/57 150 lower windshield
corner molding $20ea; sedan rear windshield stainless set $80; 56 BA 2dr
hardtop/convertible upper quarter panel paint dividers, excellent shape
$35ea; 210 hardtop driver's lower vent window molding $35.
Shipping extra.
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Louis, INTERNET:lou1@primenet.com
I recently had the pleasure of seeing the film Rock Around the Clock on
cable and it was fantastic. I had never seen it before and was wondering
what all the fuss was about. Listening to the smart dialogue, country
accents, dancing, etc. was a pleasure. I had the feeling of seeing how
rock and roll really started - in these small, nondescript towns with some
kids wanting to have fun on a Saturday night.
Can anyone tell me who that wonderful dancer was? she had dark hair and
danced throughout the film. Did she get any other parts in
movies?
What do others here think about this movie?
Louis
> 2. The band of Bill Haley (Rock Around the Clock) was named after what
car?
>
> I believe Bill Haley named his band after the celestial body COMET, not
the
> car. Bill Haley changed the name of his band to the Comets in 1952.
> Mercury
> didn't make the Comet until 1960.
>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
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kenneth city, FL $12,000.00
1957 Chevrolet STYLELINE DLX BELAIR, 57 chevy sedan new paint job
blk. all original 250 6cyl auto. needs int. work $12000.00 O.B.O.
(727)548-9762 (727) 548-9762 >>
No such thing as an ORIGINAL 250 6 cyl. engine in 1957
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< My newly rebuilt 1955 265 Rochester 2 barrel (2G) carburetor has two
check
balls in the accelerator pump circuit at inlet and outlet. They are shown
in
the rebuild kit instructions and also in my 1957 Motor's Manual Rochester
section. I have a hesitation which feels like insufficient pump action.
I
checked for vacuum (the idle is very smooth) leaks, maximized the pump
stroke
and raised the float level 1/4 inch higher than specified. It still
hesitates on acceleration. Am I missing something?
Dennis McGillis
949-551-4821 phone
949-551-1162 fax
949-533-7211 cellular >>
Dennis, first of all, I would set that float setting back to where it is
supposed to be, a 1/4 inch is a LOT to be off in a float setting. You will
probably flood you car easily and/or burn excessive gas by having a high
float setting! Float settings are very critical. I would also set the pump
stroke back to where it is supposed to be! If it's too high, that can cause
a
hesitation. Try taking off the air horn(top) of your carb & very
carefully
with a small screwdriver, spread the rubber on the pump plunger OUTWARD, as
to slightly increase the diameter. Be careful not to bend or distort the
spring inside the rubber !!!!!!!!!!! Are you SURE you used the NEW pump
plunger & not the old one by Mistake????? GOOD LUCK!
Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< There are some parts on the TriFives that you can go to a Chevy dealer
today and buy then new. They have the same part number as the original
part. These are not old parts in the sense they were built many years
ago.
They are still used in recently built cars. Are these NOS parts?
Bob, I don't believe these parts can be called NOS! Breaking down the NOS,
this is what it means: N= New-a never used part,regardless of
its
age!
O=Old-meaning the part is just that-OLD, being
produced by Chevrolet, GM, Delco/Remy or whoever made the part for these
cars
way back then, when these parts were meant to replace a part on these cars
when many were still on the road as every day drivers, (if that same part,
even with the same # on it, is still made today, I guarantee you that it
will
NOT be made exactly the same way it was back then!!!!!!!!! Just because a
part has the original stock # on it, does not make it an NOS part. Many
reproduction parts for these cars are produced with the original stock # on
them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
S= Stock=meaning the part in reference to, that
had
been sitting on a shelf, stored in a warehouse or wherever!
If a part is not made by GM, I don't think it can be called New Old Stock.
I have heard these parts called NORS meaning New Old Reproduction Stock.
List members, I invite your comments. Also if you have had your car
judged, how do NOS parts affect the judging?
As far as judging goes, basically we judge the overall CONDITION of the
car,
& many times it is very difficult to distinguish an NOS part from a REPRO
part. Example: I have NOS fender birds & gravel guards on my 56, & I have
seen the reproduction ones, You can NOT tell the difference!!!!!!! I have
seen MANY very high point cars with MANY reproduction parts on
them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the best way to
learn about these type of things is to attend a convention & JUDGE !!!!!!
Richard
BOB >>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Mel, You should be able to get all the glass for your 56, except Maybe
the
Rear glass! Your local body shop should be able to order it for you. If
they can't, you can get them through Classic Chevy Club in Florida.
Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
In my part of the woods, anything left over from when Classic Chevies were
produced and wasn't/hasn't been used is called: "NOS." (New Old Stock)
Any parts produced now is called: "REPO." (as in Reproduction)
Like the NOS silver Grill I used when I restored my one owner '57 210
4-door
Sedan, or the Repo W W Tires I stuck on it.
Thanks to all the list members who answered my question about "Styline
DLX."
But I still have yet to see a Styline DLX 5 - 6 or 7 Chevy.
Thanks. RJ
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "ROBERT FORD", INTERNET:1drag_racer@email.msn.com
My dad was a Supervisor at A.O.Smith in Granite City, Illinois for quite a
few years. I remember as a little guy in the mid sixties going out there
with my mom to pick him up, and seeing the rail cars with stacks of
completed frames on them, maybe 15 high, getting ready to be sent over to
St. Louis, Mo.It's not a long journey by rail, as you can see the Gateway
Arch in ST. Louis from A.O.Smith--it's right across the Mississippi River.
He said these were Corvette frames. If I would have known then, what I know
now..........my Christmas list would have been a little different than the
normal 6 year old!! Bob Ford in Granite City(not the Bob Ford from the
list--just another Bob Ford into 55-7 chevy's!!)
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com, INTERNET:Klasicjon@aol.com
Bob, regarding the term NOS, I also understand it to be original parts made
by GM for a particular during the production period of that model. i.e., 57
Chevy parts made from fall 1956 to fall 1957.
As far as judging goes, I don't think it really matters. Because you
almost
have to take the part off to find out whether it is NOS or not. I did a
frame off restoration on my 57 and used many reproduction parts, especially
stainless and chrome pieces and was never counted off for using them. In
fact the first CCI show I took it to was judged at 987 points, which in my
opinion is a very good first outing.
I once bought a tail fin piece which was reputed to be NOS however, I found
out later it was not even stainless but it had been chromed. I was told
that
some of these pieces were made this way. Needless to say I didn't use it.
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To: Chevy List, BOB_FORD
From: phillip l brown, INTERNET:lybc@earthlink.net
Bob, I was trying to clarify that new parts made recently, even by GM,
even with the correct part number, etc, wouldn't, in my opinion, be
considered NOS. I suppose what has to be defined is the word
"recently". Does a part for a '55 made in '58, as a repair part, for
example, a ball joint or wheel bearing, count as NOS (I think it would)
VS a ball joint or wheel bearing made in 1990? Sometime, and I have no
idea where that "sometime" year is, a "new" part goes from NOS to a new
part. Usually, people think about NOS as parts that are not general
maintenance items, but items like accessories, original fabric, chrome,
even fenders, are all sought out and demand higher prices, usually, if
they are old new parts, ie, NOS, than a reproduction part. I felt
compelled to comment because I think your answer could be construed to
include any part, regardless of year of manufacture, if made by "the
company that built the car". Again, in my opinion and experience
(having owned a '55 since '78 - before most reproduction/remanufactured
parts were made for out Tri-Fives) NOS has always meant, old "new" parts
made by the company that built the car but with the caveat that they
were made in the same year or just several years after - not
recently. It could be that the definition of NOS has changed recently
and I'm out of date. Perhaps a comment by Cliff of Cliff's Classic
Chevy Parts or Donna of FiftiesForever would add to this NOS definition,
as both dealers in new and old parts.
Phillip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com, INTERNET:CHEVYBA55@aol.com
Bob,
New old stock (nos) refers to n=new, o=old and original production as
1955 thru 1965/1970, and stock=inventory as found in an old dealership.
Forty
year old box and forty year old workmanship. IMHO, Rod......
Reno Rick,
That airfoil thing has confused my over the years. Stick your hand out the
window at a slant going 60 mph. does your hand rise from lift or pressure
under your hand. My vote goes for the pressure and not the sucking or
absence
of pressure. I fly radio controlled and an inverted flight requires a lot
of
down on the elevator to drag the tail, which tilts the wings up and causes
the pressure on the top ( or now bottom of the wing ), keeping it in
flight.
IMHO, Rod........
Dennis,
Only one check ball used Dennis. In the accelerator well, the pump only
uses
it on the suction port. The pressure port to the veturi is so small that
one
is not required. IMHO ( in my humble opinion ) Rod.......
Merry Christmas to all and the true meaning of Christ our Saviour be not
forgotten.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Donna, INTERNET:Fiftiesforever@webtv.net
NOS parts are parts that were made by the original manufacturer, (GM for
example) and are now no longer available from that manufactured. They
have been discontinued by the manufacturer. If you can still purchase
that part over the counter it is not NOS. Even if an original part is
still available through GM now and next month it gets discontinued, it
then becomes NOS.
There are some NOS parts that are much older than others but they have
to be discontinued from the manufacturer to be called NOS. A part that
was discontinued from GM in the 60's has a great value because it has be
uavailable for 40 years. A part that was just discontinued last year
will not be as rare but nonetheless will have value also.
GM discontinues parts all the time. If you bought an original part
through GM with the original factory part #, and it becomes obsolete it
is now worth more than what you paid for it. Many people purchase NOS
parts even though you can buy that same part in a reproduction version.
They want to do their car in only original GM parts. They will pay much
more for those parts and will have to search all over the country to
find them.
Just look on Ebay under "nos corvette" or "nos Chevrolet". There are
hundreds of parts listed. You must however, be careful not to purchase a
new GM part listed as NOS but is really just a new part that you can
still purchase over the counter.
A car done in only nos parts will definitely be worth more than one done
with reproduction parts but it will cost much more to purchase those nos
parts.
Well, enough about NOS: I have to get ready for a Christmas Party!!
Happy Holidays to all!! Donna
Fifties Forever
206 Division Ave.
Garfield, NJ 07026
973-478-1306
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To: "Bob Ford", BOB_FORD
From: "Edward Shockley", INTERNET:drshock@insectria.net
Bob,
You asked about comments regarding NOS parts and the meaning.
Here's my view on it.
An NOS part has to be a new and unused part that not only has the same part
number as what the assembly line used, but also has the same design and no
longer be available. In many cases later parts, especially ones still
available thru GM SPO, are not of the same design as the original though
still retain the same number. In many cases these would not be
appropriate
in professionally judged events though would fit the specifications of the
engineers OK. For a specific example, in 1957 a set of AC 44 plugs had no
green stripes on the ridges. The same part number,1559492, was used well
into the 70s, but almost all that you see have the four green stripes.
But
this sort of "deviation" would probably only be taken into account in
Corvette events (NCRS style).
A part you can buy from GM today is simply "new", even if it has an "old"
number. If it happens to be perfectly identical to the vintage part, like
say the dipstick tube part # 3732488, then great - you can use it but its
still just a new GM part.
Another wrinkle is parts that are date coded in some way. Here it's not
enough to locate an NOS part, you have to find a "vintage" NOS part. One
made the same year your car was so that it has the proper date coding to
match your cars build date time line.
But then, all this hunting around for the right part(s) is half the fun
right....
Edward D. Shockley
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com, INTERNET:Ttypeturbo@aol.com
Hi gang,
Need seats for my 55 2 door sedan street rod. Anyone know what kind of
cars
would give me power seats and a fairly easy bolt in installation without
too
many mods? On rear ends, what year Fords would have the closest thing to
fitting in a 9" rear without major mods. A while back, I posted a request
to
help me locate a 55 210 2 door wagon that I used to own but have had no
responses. My state won't let you backtrack title history. If anyone on
the
list owns a wagon or has a friend that does, the serial number was:
B55J114687. The car was sold out of West Columbia, SC in 1978. The car
was
rust free back then so I would like to think that it still does exist. I
owned the car when I was in high school and we used to fold down the rear
seat and camp out in it. If located I would be interested in purchasing
but
if owner did not want to sell, I would hope they would keep my number just
in case they would change their minds or let me take a few pictures for old
times sake! Thanks for a great list and merry Christmas to all!
Steve Pritchard
ttypeturbo@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Skip & Mary, INTERNET:sandmmetz@webtv.net
Bob.
It would be great if you could post this request on the list.
I recently purchased the last 10 inches of trunk floor replacement
panel for my 56. The reason for doing so is the area where the latch
plate is supposed to be is gone due to rust. I need this latch or
whatever it is called. I'm not sure just what I need or what it looks
like. I haven't seen this part in any of the catalogs I have so I don't
even know if anyone is producing it. Does anyone know where I can get
one either new or used?
Thanks,
Skip
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Barry", INTERNET:barrysd@earthlink.net
Bob:
After rebuilding the 605 power steering gearbox, I installed in into my 57
Chev 2 door hardtop. Although it definitely works, it fails to
automatical
ly return to center. In other words, whatever position the
steering wheel is in, it tends to remain there. Usually, power steering
finds the center of the road and guides itself.
Before someone suggests alignment, that's been done twice. None of the
ball
joints are overly tight and all 4 have been replaced. In addition, the
pitman arm bushing was replaced and isn't overly tight either. I also
tried
two different kinds of tires.
I've taken the 605 apart twice and all seems to be ok. What did I do to
the
605 (or fail to do to the 605) to make this happen?
Barry
Tucson
520-797-0265
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