TriChrome
03-06-2018, 11:58 PM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Gary White", INTERNET:gwhitrun@mindspring.com
I have a 57 Chevy. When I bought it I had to replace the Temp gauge with a
rebuilt one which has been checked out to be ok. I still cannot get the
gauge to work correctly. I have tried 2 different sending units and the
wiring has been redone with the help of April57. The gauge does the same
thing every time-It works but after about 3-5 minutes the gauge goes to hot
and stays there. The engine is not hot-about 175. I am at a loss as to why
this happens-It acts like the gauge and the sending unit are not speaking
the same language. Anyone had any experience with this? Help!
Gary gwhitrun@mindspring.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:lsfork@bloomnet.com, INTERNET:lsfork@bloomnet.com
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU BOB AND TO LIST MEMBERS
>From Ernie&Sharon @ the
LITTLE SOUTH FORK RANCH
CREIGHTON,NEBRASKA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Zzzshoebox@aol.com, INTERNET:Zzzshoebox@aol.com
Regarding: Fuel Sending Unit
Please respond with an e-mail.
I have my system wired as follows: Hot wire runs to rear of fuel gauge &
gauge is grounded, sending unit runs relay lead to gauge & sending unit is
grounded. Gauge is effective, as is sending unit. I thought potentially a
wire was faulty so I wired it all direct and smoked my sending unit. Anyone
have hints or suggestions on how to make this work?
Thanks,
Harry
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Chuck Elliott, INTERNET:sjsnakeman@home.com
Bob
Of coarse you should continue to publish all the cars you find. Why
limit the higher priced cars? As always, these cars continue to
escalate in price and it is good to see what people are asking.
Thanks for your work. Hope everybody had a great Holiday season.
Chuck
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JBCarRstr@aol.com, INTERNET:JBCarRstr@aol.com
Hello to all list members, and Happy New Year.
I have to reply to the following request for info.
"Would like feed back from folks who've done the 700 swap
from a 350. I know I'll move the cross member back and shorten the drive
shaft.
Will my current th-350 column shift rod work? Will the 700 detent cable
attach
to the existing 350 bracket and E-brock carb? Do I NEED to hook up the
lock-up
torque converter right now? Can I drive without it for now without harming
the trans? Will my 350 CCI center mounts work with the 700? Any and all
feedback sincerely appreciated. Usually I ask these questions AFTER I've
gotten screwed up. Thought I'd try it beforehand for a change. Will be
buying
and installing the 700 next week in place of the built 350. " Please don't
install your 700 without contacting Steve Holmes @ Bowtie Overdrives. The
answers to your basic questions regarding TV cable connection and
especially
your lock up torque converter is "NO". You cannot run the 700 without the
lock up converter working, it creates excess heat build up and can burn the
trans up in no time at all. How do I know? Well, I almost demolished mine.
I
was lucky that I contacted bowtie overdrives and took my car there just
last
week. This business does nothing but auto overdrive transmissions -
building,
installation, set-up adjustments, etc. and are very helpful. They do have a
web site at www.bowtieoverdrives.com. Check it out and give them a call.
Steve Holmes is the owner but he is not there very often. His people are
likewise as helpful, talk to Duane Smith the shop foreman. Call them (760)
947-5240 they are located in Victorville/Hesperia, CA. You can also e mail
them at: dr700r4@earthlink.net -
The 700R4 trans is a very good idea if set-up properly. These are the only
people that can get you set up correctly. They build and install and are
very
much into the tech stuff about these very complex transmissions. Very
customer oriented. They test drive every car with the owner before and
after
the installation, or set-up, to be sure that the operation is understood.
Tell them Jim Baylor - with the Blue '57 Chevy 2 dr. Wagon told you about
them.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Ricky Rodder, INTERNET:shuboxsam@webtv.net
Hi Bob,
Regarding high priced cars for sale on list, I"m not bothered by them
even though I could never afford one or really care to. I myself enjoy
the buildup and eventually cruising in something I put together. I'm
also used to seeing high prices on cars (albeit new) as I'm a technician at
a local
Cadillac dealership.
In regards to Lenny's question regarding our tri 5's both my 55 210
2dr sedan and my wife s 57 210 2dr sedan are modified i.e. different
engines, trans, interiors.
bodies remain original except for color choices.
While I'm rambling I would like to take this chance to thank Bob for
this list and to wish all members and their families a safe and
prosperous NEW YEAR.
Rich
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "surface1", INTERNET:SURFACE1@prodigy.net
In regards to expensive cars, twenty years ago I would have thought
$40,000.00 was too much for a third car also.It's very easy to put a small
fortune into restoring one of these cars. So if you wish to sell it what
are
you suppose to do, give it away? From what I've seen around here there's
plenty to go around at all prices. Hobbies are very expensive and there's
people out there spending alot of time, effort and money restoring and
building these cars.( The way they want them to look).It's very easy buying
one at $2000-$3000 and then dumping in another $10,000-$15,000 in parts
alone not to mention shop fees. Have you had a new 1/4 panel welded in
lately? Paint and body work of any kind of quality $6000-$8000. Interior?
How long does it take for GM to make a new chevy with a window sticker of
$30,000. I'am building a new 56 that's going to take at least a couple
years
and I'd much rather have the one I'am building. Manufactured in Phoenix,Az.
USA. By a choosen few!!
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "John Cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
G,Day Bob. Like John Breswick, I have been checking the asking prices for
some of the cars guys send in for you too list for sale.
It seems like you have a lot of Dreamers out there !!!!!! . No doubt a lot
of cars are restored correctly, but only some are worth the asking price,
then it is also a case of supply & demand. Latterly it seems that some
dude
asks say 25 Grand for a 4 door
sedan with a decent Paint Job , new interior , Motor rebuild & a set of
white walls, then all of a sudden up pops a whole bunch of similar cars for
sale all around the same price.
If you want to sell your car then dont dream or think yours is worth as
much
as some other car you have seen listed. Be realistic, and offer it at a
reasonable price & I am sure you will get phone calls & buyers Knocking on
your door. Every one of us knows how much our cars cost us to buy or
restore, no one wants to take a loss, but if you count man hours working on
you own project times a dollar value. then you can not expect to get some
of
the ridiculous prices we are all seeing latterly. Dealers are another
reason
why some cars are high priced also, but hey they usually have the bucks &
know you "Just Gotta have that car" right.
There is no set price for any cars, even so called Guides are only that A
Guide to so called market average price. These cars like any are only
worth
what someone is willing to pay. I have seen guys asking you why they have
not had any buyers , inquiries or sale,
boy some of these people must be on something else besides this Planet
earth.
Convertibles, Coupes, Nomad's will always fetch Good to High Bucks if in
any
condition from a Restorable to a Driver to a Restored Points Car. I bet
almost every reasonable priced 55-57 chev priced between $3500 - $15,ooo
sells real easy , you only have to check the photo adds in say Trader
online
& others to realize there are cars out there for sale in this price range
that most can find & afford to buy , Drive & enjoy the thrill of owning one
.
I will stick my nose out here and bet some people are not logging on to
this
site as much as usual because the cars listed in the last six months are
priced way above what a average person expects to pay !!!!! There still
are
some good buys out there all over the USA but you gotta do some hunting..
Last my advise is never buy a car off the net, from Photos alone, unless
the
seller agrees in writing to refund your money in full if it is not as good
as made out to be when you go to collect it.. Boy those photos make a lot
of
cars look like Factory Fresh.. Photos dont show, Bondo, Overspray Paint &
hidden Rust. or previous Accident Damage, If you going to pay as much or
more for a Nice 55-57 than a new everyday car then you better look real
hard.
How many times have you seen some guy place a advert.. this car is totally
original, genuine miles...then says it has had a Repaint & Retrim etc !!!!!
am I missing something here ? Whats wrong with telling a buyer the honest
truth for a change ?
Well have blown my horn for long enough, Time to get off line, Hope I have
not offended anyone with my comments, How about all you Dreamers out there
make 2001 a more realistic year for all Bobs readers & all the rest of us
for that matter.
Almost forgot HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU READERS !!!!
Regards. John Cain. Downunder.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@gate.net
Hi Bob and all. Regarding Lenny Schaeffer's question
regarding weekend events, summer 2001. Ya' can't
miss C.C.I's meets in Buffalo N.Y.,July 18 - 22, and in
Columbus Oh., August 7 - 12th ! If you've never been to
the Woodward Dream Cruise, 3rd weekend in Aug. you
need to take that in, at least once in your lifetime. If this
isn't enough, be really adventurous and attend Canadian
Classic Chevys, 'Family Reunion', Aug 3 - 5. If enjoyment
of you classic is what you are about, you have to do the
Canadian thing, where your U.S. buck goes soooo much
further. Full details on all of the above available, just ask.
JimJ.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< Editor's note. Richard, you are 100 percent correct. You really know
your
music.
BOB >>
I'm not really an expert, Bob. These were actually easy fill-ins. I just
know something from collecting records since 1956, being a record dealer
since '67 & doing DJ jobs for weddings, reunions, car shows, private
parties, etc. In fact, if there are any readers out there that still have
&
use cassette tapes, I have some great "Car Songs" tapes by various artist
that I usually play at car shows, for sale. If anyone is interested, they
can
email me at: lovemy56@aol.com I will be glad to give them any more info
they need. Thanks Bob for doing such a GREAT JOB on this list & Happy New
Year from our family to you & yours! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Lynn & Milly, Hey thanks for the update on the Rock Around The Clock
flick! Evidently there isn't a Soundtrack for this movie, as I have an LP
Soundtrack record price guide, & it is not listed is my book !!!!!!!!
Would
love to see this movie, as I've always enjoyed all the other R&R movies of
this period, although many people will say that they were really not GOOD
movies! And they were just cheapy Budget movies. Whatever they call them,
I
thought they were GOOD movies! "Go, Johnny, GO" is another good one! Had
Jimmy Clanton, & several other good groups, as did "The Girl Can't Help
It"
Happy New Year to ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
Dear Bob,
These prices are unrealistic -- very few people will pay $40,000 and up
for
these Chevys unless they're rich. What happened to the $10-15,000 range?
John Bresnik
Escondido, CA
Editor's note. There has been some very expensive cars listed. If you
have a car for sale please send it in. My guess is that cheaper cars sell
faster than expensive ones. List members, what are your feelings about
seeing expensive cars for sale?
BOB
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Bob, I totally agree with John ! All I can say for these people who ask
such
ridiculously HIGH prices for their classic Chevys is: ROTS A RUCK! You can
still buy a very nicely restored Classic Chevy 2 dr. hdtp. for around
$20,000
& a nicer older restoration for around $12-18,000 All you have to do is
LOOK ! There is absolutely no need to pay some of these crazy prices that
SOME people are asking for their cars! Richard
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:j-mls@webtv.net, INTERNET:j-mls@webtv.net
When someone restores a classic, many times they reach a point of "no
return" on their investment.(funds invested will not return profit or
break even point) A car is worth only what the market will bear, no
more, regardless of what has been invested in it. Get real with your
prices,or be prepared to sit on your car for a long time. Thanks, Bob,
for your hard work, and wishing all a healthy, happy new year.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
Just thought I'd add my "Two Cents Worth" to some of the posts on the list.
To: CJ Wilson. Good advice CJ. Just wish there wasn't SO much salt on the
roads to do this.
To: Case's Chevy Parts. I bought a "Repo" set of '57 Hood Bar Extenions
from
this man at the Fall session of Cars n Parts Swap Meet in Springfield, OH
this past September. This man treated me VERY nice. Anyone looking for 5 6
7
parts for their car(s)...... DON'T hessitate to deal with him.
To: Joseph Rock. Joe, I don't know about '56 Tail lights, but I painted the
entire area underneath the lenses on my '57 Tail lights with silver paint.
It brightened up my lights and was cheap to do.
Thanks and a "Happy and Safe New Year's" to all and their families.
Thanks.
RJ
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bob Duvall", INTERNET:bduvall@ccaonline.com
Hi Bob
Thanks for the great information you and other people give on the site. I
am looking for some 1955-1957 convertible parts. Quarter window frames both
sides, Top switch for a 55, and windshield header stainless.
Thank you
Bob Duvall
bduvall@ccaonline.com
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: "Dale D.", INTERNET:canyonrose@yahoo.com
For the poll: Put me down as owning a modified
vehicle ('55 Sedan Delivery w/350/400TH). Not to say
that I don't love and appreciate stockers. I enjoy
taking a "modified" that someone else started and keep
going with it, I just don't have the heart to be the
first to start modifying a total or very close
stocker. That is the reason I said I would prefer to
sell my '57 Sedan Delivery to someone who would keep
it stock.
Happy New Year (and REAL New Millenium) to all!
-Delivery Dale
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com, INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com
<< List members, what are your feelings about
seeing expensive cars for sale >>
I'm all for seeing these cars. First, and most important, I'm looking for
a
real nice 55, and I expect to pay more than $20K for it. Second, most of
these people are, believe it or not, selling these cars at a loss! I don't
care what kind of car it is, doing a frame off restoration is expensive,
and
most people who do so will find themselves upside down when it comes time
to
sell. In other words, a lot of these high dollar cars are bargains!
Finally, to the extent these ads are a barometer of the market, it's nice
to
know where the top is, as well as the bottom. Let's see more high dollar
ads! And if someone has a black or primer 55 with a 4 speed and none of
that billet/digital/tilt wheel stuff--a nostalgia car--please let me know.
Thanks for all your hard work, Bob, and Happy New Year!
Alan in Los Angeles
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
Hi Bob
In response to John comments about unrealistic prices, I can say that I
think
the shoebox is TRENDY right now and therefore can be more expensive than in
the past. Also I know my Own vehicle was just appraised at OVER 40K,with
over
$10,000 in chrome alone, so these cars aren't your daddy's cars anymore!
Prices for EVERY classic or custom is outrageous now- I strongly suggest
getting a 'before' car and having it restored the way YOU like it-
It may cost a bit more in the long run, but it will be just what you asked
for.
Happy New Year everyone
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
Bearing Burners Car Club President
D56chevy@aol.com
http:/clubs.hemmings.com/bearingburners
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DERION57@aol.com, INTERNET:DERION57@aol.com
Hi Bob,
Expensive cars? Hmm. When I see an expensive car listed I think
"That's Nice" (say it very derogatorily) Then I wonder if I can get the
same
for mine!
Mike in Illinois
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: John H, INTERNET:JohnH55@webtv.net
Response to Lenny S.
Mine is 1955 BA 2dr sed; 350, 4spd, disc brakes, Cragar Street Stars and
BFG's. Oh and almost forgot the glass packs. Guess it's a custom
according to CCi rules. Looks stock otherwise. Will post a pic. when I
can get a friend to do it.
Peace.
John H.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Kenneth L Ogle", INTERNET:kenneth.ogle@gte.net
Hi Bob, I saw your note about the 'expensive' and to most OVERPRICED
tri-5's. I think to advertise for these outrageous prices is a waste of
your time to list and a waste of my time to read. However, I do like the
way you listed the cars in the last newsletter, from the cheapest to the
most expensive. That way when the ads get too pricy, I can go back to
watching football. I would suggest one other thing if it's not too much
work, always list the cars in chronological order. I'm mostly interested
in 57 cars and things and can save a lot of time by being able to go
straight to the 57 ads.
NOTE: I saw one advertiser in your last ad listing a 2 door HT car for
sale for about $35,000. He made the statement that "these cars will triple
in price in the next 10 years". IF HE BELIEVES THAT, HE WOULD KEEP EVERY
CAR HE HAS AND BUY EVER CAR HE SEES. He really does not believe that and
neither do you nor I. In fact, if the economy continues to slide, as most
economist predict, there will be a lot of cars on the market for sale at
much cheaper prices. There are a lot of people in over their heads. I
practice what Larry Berkett (sp?) teaches, get out of debt and stay out of
debt. Thanks be to 'GOD', my wife and I have been debt free for the past 6
years, except for the typical light, water, and tax bills. We have adopted
the principle that if we can't pay cash for something, then we don't need
it.
Thanks again Bob for you dedicated work and I have enjoyed you site for
another year. May GOD bless you and your family and all our tri-5 family
members in the coming New Year. Thanks and as always remember 'GOD is
Love', Ken
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Bob Yarnell", INTERNET:bowtieguy_55@hotmail.com
Hello Bob,
I'd would like to invite all the list members to my website Classic Chevys:
1955 - 1957 to view all the information I have posted on these cars.
href="http://classicchevys.50g.com/">http://classicchevys.50g.com/
While you are there you might like to view the information I have on a new
CD I've produced, called The 1955 Chevrolet Literature Library. It offers
over 640mb of original literature (including a complete 1955 Chevrolet
Dealer Album) and GM promotional films in mpeg format
I realize this is a shameless promotion of my CD, but I think your list
members will also enjoy the 100mb of free 1955-57 content the site has to
offer.
Bowtieguy
Bob Yarnell
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "shew", INTERNET:ethan@compunet.net
Happy New Year to everyone.
I would like to respond to Jerry Casper about putting on a snap top on a
Chevy. I was in a Wal Mart on Dec 27, I was thumbing through all the car
magazines in a "lowrider" magazine they showed how to install a cloth sun
roof, I believe it was a universal kit. Just thought you may want to check
it out.
Charlie Shew
Castlewood, Va
ethan@compunet.net
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Tamara Tresko, INTERNET:twtresko@pacbell.net
BOB
I think anyone has the right to list...and think they are asking a good
price for there car... getting it is another thing..and I agree that some
are really way to high... but who can say what that person thinks is
high??? Just an opinion... Tammy
Wally & Tammy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1656
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5732
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Rick Beavington", INTERNET:rick.b@home.com
Seeing those Numbers makes me think my car is worth alot more :-)
but seeing 2 door hardtops for 40K..that is way out there..
Seems a waste of time
Rick Beavington
57 Ragtop
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BOB_FORD/
http://members.home.net:80/rick.b/Bobford.htm
VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Gary White", INTERNET:gwhitrun@mindspring.com
I have a 57 Chevy. When I bought it I had to replace the Temp gauge with a
rebuilt one which has been checked out to be ok. I still cannot get the
gauge to work correctly. I have tried 2 different sending units and the
wiring has been redone with the help of April57. The gauge does the same
thing every time-It works but after about 3-5 minutes the gauge goes to hot
and stays there. The engine is not hot-about 175. I am at a loss as to why
this happens-It acts like the gauge and the sending unit are not speaking
the same language. Anyone had any experience with this? Help!
Gary gwhitrun@mindspring.com
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:lsfork@bloomnet.com, INTERNET:lsfork@bloomnet.com
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU BOB AND TO LIST MEMBERS
>From Ernie&Sharon @ the
LITTLE SOUTH FORK RANCH
CREIGHTON,NEBRASKA
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Zzzshoebox@aol.com, INTERNET:Zzzshoebox@aol.com
Regarding: Fuel Sending Unit
Please respond with an e-mail.
I have my system wired as follows: Hot wire runs to rear of fuel gauge &
gauge is grounded, sending unit runs relay lead to gauge & sending unit is
grounded. Gauge is effective, as is sending unit. I thought potentially a
wire was faulty so I wired it all direct and smoked my sending unit. Anyone
have hints or suggestions on how to make this work?
Thanks,
Harry
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Chuck Elliott, INTERNET:sjsnakeman@home.com
Bob
Of coarse you should continue to publish all the cars you find. Why
limit the higher priced cars? As always, these cars continue to
escalate in price and it is good to see what people are asking.
Thanks for your work. Hope everybody had a great Holiday season.
Chuck
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JBCarRstr@aol.com, INTERNET:JBCarRstr@aol.com
Hello to all list members, and Happy New Year.
I have to reply to the following request for info.
"Would like feed back from folks who've done the 700 swap
from a 350. I know I'll move the cross member back and shorten the drive
shaft.
Will my current th-350 column shift rod work? Will the 700 detent cable
attach
to the existing 350 bracket and E-brock carb? Do I NEED to hook up the
lock-up
torque converter right now? Can I drive without it for now without harming
the trans? Will my 350 CCI center mounts work with the 700? Any and all
feedback sincerely appreciated. Usually I ask these questions AFTER I've
gotten screwed up. Thought I'd try it beforehand for a change. Will be
buying
and installing the 700 next week in place of the built 350. " Please don't
install your 700 without contacting Steve Holmes @ Bowtie Overdrives. The
answers to your basic questions regarding TV cable connection and
especially
your lock up torque converter is "NO". You cannot run the 700 without the
lock up converter working, it creates excess heat build up and can burn the
trans up in no time at all. How do I know? Well, I almost demolished mine.
I
was lucky that I contacted bowtie overdrives and took my car there just
last
week. This business does nothing but auto overdrive transmissions -
building,
installation, set-up adjustments, etc. and are very helpful. They do have a
web site at www.bowtieoverdrives.com. Check it out and give them a call.
Steve Holmes is the owner but he is not there very often. His people are
likewise as helpful, talk to Duane Smith the shop foreman. Call them (760)
947-5240 they are located in Victorville/Hesperia, CA. You can also e mail
them at: dr700r4@earthlink.net -
The 700R4 trans is a very good idea if set-up properly. These are the only
people that can get you set up correctly. They build and install and are
very
much into the tech stuff about these very complex transmissions. Very
customer oriented. They test drive every car with the owner before and
after
the installation, or set-up, to be sure that the operation is understood.
Tell them Jim Baylor - with the Blue '57 Chevy 2 dr. Wagon told you about
them.
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Ricky Rodder, INTERNET:shuboxsam@webtv.net
Hi Bob,
Regarding high priced cars for sale on list, I"m not bothered by them
even though I could never afford one or really care to. I myself enjoy
the buildup and eventually cruising in something I put together. I'm
also used to seeing high prices on cars (albeit new) as I'm a technician at
a local
Cadillac dealership.
In regards to Lenny's question regarding our tri 5's both my 55 210
2dr sedan and my wife s 57 210 2dr sedan are modified i.e. different
engines, trans, interiors.
bodies remain original except for color choices.
While I'm rambling I would like to take this chance to thank Bob for
this list and to wish all members and their families a safe and
prosperous NEW YEAR.
Rich
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "surface1", INTERNET:SURFACE1@prodigy.net
In regards to expensive cars, twenty years ago I would have thought
$40,000.00 was too much for a third car also.It's very easy to put a small
fortune into restoring one of these cars. So if you wish to sell it what
are
you suppose to do, give it away? From what I've seen around here there's
plenty to go around at all prices. Hobbies are very expensive and there's
people out there spending alot of time, effort and money restoring and
building these cars.( The way they want them to look).It's very easy buying
one at $2000-$3000 and then dumping in another $10,000-$15,000 in parts
alone not to mention shop fees. Have you had a new 1/4 panel welded in
lately? Paint and body work of any kind of quality $6000-$8000. Interior?
How long does it take for GM to make a new chevy with a window sticker of
$30,000. I'am building a new 56 that's going to take at least a couple
years
and I'd much rather have the one I'am building. Manufactured in Phoenix,Az.
USA. By a choosen few!!
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "John Cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
G,Day Bob. Like John Breswick, I have been checking the asking prices for
some of the cars guys send in for you too list for sale.
It seems like you have a lot of Dreamers out there !!!!!! . No doubt a lot
of cars are restored correctly, but only some are worth the asking price,
then it is also a case of supply & demand. Latterly it seems that some
dude
asks say 25 Grand for a 4 door
sedan with a decent Paint Job , new interior , Motor rebuild & a set of
white walls, then all of a sudden up pops a whole bunch of similar cars for
sale all around the same price.
If you want to sell your car then dont dream or think yours is worth as
much
as some other car you have seen listed. Be realistic, and offer it at a
reasonable price & I am sure you will get phone calls & buyers Knocking on
your door. Every one of us knows how much our cars cost us to buy or
restore, no one wants to take a loss, but if you count man hours working on
you own project times a dollar value. then you can not expect to get some
of
the ridiculous prices we are all seeing latterly. Dealers are another
reason
why some cars are high priced also, but hey they usually have the bucks &
know you "Just Gotta have that car" right.
There is no set price for any cars, even so called Guides are only that A
Guide to so called market average price. These cars like any are only
worth
what someone is willing to pay. I have seen guys asking you why they have
not had any buyers , inquiries or sale,
boy some of these people must be on something else besides this Planet
earth.
Convertibles, Coupes, Nomad's will always fetch Good to High Bucks if in
any
condition from a Restorable to a Driver to a Restored Points Car. I bet
almost every reasonable priced 55-57 chev priced between $3500 - $15,ooo
sells real easy , you only have to check the photo adds in say Trader
online
& others to realize there are cars out there for sale in this price range
that most can find & afford to buy , Drive & enjoy the thrill of owning one
.
I will stick my nose out here and bet some people are not logging on to
this
site as much as usual because the cars listed in the last six months are
priced way above what a average person expects to pay !!!!! There still
are
some good buys out there all over the USA but you gotta do some hunting..
Last my advise is never buy a car off the net, from Photos alone, unless
the
seller agrees in writing to refund your money in full if it is not as good
as made out to be when you go to collect it.. Boy those photos make a lot
of
cars look like Factory Fresh.. Photos dont show, Bondo, Overspray Paint &
hidden Rust. or previous Accident Damage, If you going to pay as much or
more for a Nice 55-57 than a new everyday car then you better look real
hard.
How many times have you seen some guy place a advert.. this car is totally
original, genuine miles...then says it has had a Repaint & Retrim etc !!!!!
am I missing something here ? Whats wrong with telling a buyer the honest
truth for a change ?
Well have blown my horn for long enough, Time to get off line, Hope I have
not offended anyone with my comments, How about all you Dreamers out there
make 2001 a more realistic year for all Bobs readers & all the rest of us
for that matter.
Almost forgot HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU READERS !!!!
Regards. John Cain. Downunder.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "jimj", INTERNET:jimj@gate.net
Hi Bob and all. Regarding Lenny Schaeffer's question
regarding weekend events, summer 2001. Ya' can't
miss C.C.I's meets in Buffalo N.Y.,July 18 - 22, and in
Columbus Oh., August 7 - 12th ! If you've never been to
the Woodward Dream Cruise, 3rd weekend in Aug. you
need to take that in, at least once in your lifetime. If this
isn't enough, be really adventurous and attend Canadian
Classic Chevys, 'Family Reunion', Aug 3 - 5. If enjoyment
of you classic is what you are about, you have to do the
Canadian thing, where your U.S. buck goes soooo much
further. Full details on all of the above available, just ask.
JimJ.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
<< Editor's note. Richard, you are 100 percent correct. You really know
your
music.
BOB >>
I'm not really an expert, Bob. These were actually easy fill-ins. I just
know something from collecting records since 1956, being a record dealer
since '67 & doing DJ jobs for weddings, reunions, car shows, private
parties, etc. In fact, if there are any readers out there that still have
&
use cassette tapes, I have some great "Car Songs" tapes by various artist
that I usually play at car shows, for sale. If anyone is interested, they
can
email me at: lovemy56@aol.com I will be glad to give them any more info
they need. Thanks Bob for doing such a GREAT JOB on this list & Happy New
Year from our family to you & yours! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
To Lynn & Milly, Hey thanks for the update on the Rock Around The Clock
flick! Evidently there isn't a Soundtrack for this movie, as I have an LP
Soundtrack record price guide, & it is not listed is my book !!!!!!!!
Would
love to see this movie, as I've always enjoyed all the other R&R movies of
this period, although many people will say that they were really not GOOD
movies! And they were just cheapy Budget movies. Whatever they call them,
I
thought they were GOOD movies! "Go, Johnny, GO" is another good one! Had
Jimmy Clanton, & several other good groups, as did "The Girl Can't Help
It"
Happy New Year to ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Richard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com
Dear Bob,
These prices are unrealistic -- very few people will pay $40,000 and up
for
these Chevys unless they're rich. What happened to the $10-15,000 range?
John Bresnik
Escondido, CA
Editor's note. There has been some very expensive cars listed. If you
have a car for sale please send it in. My guess is that cheaper cars sell
faster than expensive ones. List members, what are your feelings about
seeing expensive cars for sale?
BOB
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Bob, I totally agree with John ! All I can say for these people who ask
such
ridiculously HIGH prices for their classic Chevys is: ROTS A RUCK! You can
still buy a very nicely restored Classic Chevy 2 dr. hdtp. for around
$20,000
& a nicer older restoration for around $12-18,000 All you have to do is
LOOK ! There is absolutely no need to pay some of these crazy prices that
SOME people are asking for their cars! Richard
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:j-mls@webtv.net, INTERNET:j-mls@webtv.net
When someone restores a classic, many times they reach a point of "no
return" on their investment.(funds invested will not return profit or
break even point) A car is worth only what the market will bear, no
more, regardless of what has been invested in it. Get real with your
prices,or be prepared to sit on your car for a long time. Thanks, Bob,
for your hard work, and wishing all a healthy, happy new year.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "B & R", INTERNET:ROYBOBROY@wesnet.com
Hi Bob,
Just thought I'd add my "Two Cents Worth" to some of the posts on the list.
To: CJ Wilson. Good advice CJ. Just wish there wasn't SO much salt on the
roads to do this.
To: Case's Chevy Parts. I bought a "Repo" set of '57 Hood Bar Extenions
from
this man at the Fall session of Cars n Parts Swap Meet in Springfield, OH
this past September. This man treated me VERY nice. Anyone looking for 5 6
7
parts for their car(s)...... DON'T hessitate to deal with him.
To: Joseph Rock. Joe, I don't know about '56 Tail lights, but I painted the
entire area underneath the lenses on my '57 Tail lights with silver paint.
It brightened up my lights and was cheap to do.
Thanks and a "Happy and Safe New Year's" to all and their families.
Thanks.
RJ
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Bob Duvall", INTERNET:bduvall@ccaonline.com
Hi Bob
Thanks for the great information you and other people give on the site. I
am looking for some 1955-1957 convertible parts. Quarter window frames both
sides, Top switch for a 55, and windshield header stainless.
Thank you
Bob Duvall
bduvall@ccaonline.com
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: "Dale D.", INTERNET:canyonrose@yahoo.com
For the poll: Put me down as owning a modified
vehicle ('55 Sedan Delivery w/350/400TH). Not to say
that I don't love and appreciate stockers. I enjoy
taking a "modified" that someone else started and keep
going with it, I just don't have the heart to be the
first to start modifying a total or very close
stocker. That is the reason I said I would prefer to
sell my '57 Sedan Delivery to someone who would keep
it stock.
Happy New Year (and REAL New Millenium) to all!
-Delivery Dale
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com, INTERNET:Werthie@aol.com
<< List members, what are your feelings about
seeing expensive cars for sale >>
I'm all for seeing these cars. First, and most important, I'm looking for
a
real nice 55, and I expect to pay more than $20K for it. Second, most of
these people are, believe it or not, selling these cars at a loss! I don't
care what kind of car it is, doing a frame off restoration is expensive,
and
most people who do so will find themselves upside down when it comes time
to
sell. In other words, a lot of these high dollar cars are bargains!
Finally, to the extent these ads are a barometer of the market, it's nice
to
know where the top is, as well as the bottom. Let's see more high dollar
ads! And if someone has a black or primer 55 with a 4 speed and none of
that billet/digital/tilt wheel stuff--a nostalgia car--please let me know.
Thanks for all your hard work, Bob, and Happy New Year!
Alan in Los Angeles
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com
Hi Bob
In response to John comments about unrealistic prices, I can say that I
think
the shoebox is TRENDY right now and therefore can be more expensive than in
the past. Also I know my Own vehicle was just appraised at OVER 40K,with
over
$10,000 in chrome alone, so these cars aren't your daddy's cars anymore!
Prices for EVERY classic or custom is outrageous now- I strongly suggest
getting a 'before' car and having it restored the way YOU like it-
It may cost a bit more in the long run, but it will be just what you asked
for.
Happy New Year everyone
Lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
Bearing Burners Car Club President
D56chevy@aol.com
http:/clubs.hemmings.com/bearingburners
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:DERION57@aol.com, INTERNET:DERION57@aol.com
Hi Bob,
Expensive cars? Hmm. When I see an expensive car listed I think
"That's Nice" (say it very derogatorily) Then I wonder if I can get the
same
for mine!
Mike in Illinois
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: John H, INTERNET:JohnH55@webtv.net
Response to Lenny S.
Mine is 1955 BA 2dr sed; 350, 4spd, disc brakes, Cragar Street Stars and
BFG's. Oh and almost forgot the glass packs. Guess it's a custom
according to CCi rules. Looks stock otherwise. Will post a pic. when I
can get a friend to do it.
Peace.
John H.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Kenneth L Ogle", INTERNET:kenneth.ogle@gte.net
Hi Bob, I saw your note about the 'expensive' and to most OVERPRICED
tri-5's. I think to advertise for these outrageous prices is a waste of
your time to list and a waste of my time to read. However, I do like the
way you listed the cars in the last newsletter, from the cheapest to the
most expensive. That way when the ads get too pricy, I can go back to
watching football. I would suggest one other thing if it's not too much
work, always list the cars in chronological order. I'm mostly interested
in 57 cars and things and can save a lot of time by being able to go
straight to the 57 ads.
NOTE: I saw one advertiser in your last ad listing a 2 door HT car for
sale for about $35,000. He made the statement that "these cars will triple
in price in the next 10 years". IF HE BELIEVES THAT, HE WOULD KEEP EVERY
CAR HE HAS AND BUY EVER CAR HE SEES. He really does not believe that and
neither do you nor I. In fact, if the economy continues to slide, as most
economist predict, there will be a lot of cars on the market for sale at
much cheaper prices. There are a lot of people in over their heads. I
practice what Larry Berkett (sp?) teaches, get out of debt and stay out of
debt. Thanks be to 'GOD', my wife and I have been debt free for the past 6
years, except for the typical light, water, and tax bills. We have adopted
the principle that if we can't pay cash for something, then we don't need
it.
Thanks again Bob for you dedicated work and I have enjoyed you site for
another year. May GOD bless you and your family and all our tri-5 family
members in the coming New Year. Thanks and as always remember 'GOD is
Love', Ken
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Bob Yarnell", INTERNET:bowtieguy_55@hotmail.com
Hello Bob,
I'd would like to invite all the list members to my website Classic Chevys:
1955 - 1957 to view all the information I have posted on these cars.
href="http://classicchevys.50g.com/">http://classicchevys.50g.com/
While you are there you might like to view the information I have on a new
CD I've produced, called The 1955 Chevrolet Literature Library. It offers
over 640mb of original literature (including a complete 1955 Chevrolet
Dealer Album) and GM promotional films in mpeg format
I realize this is a shameless promotion of my CD, but I think your list
members will also enjoy the 100mb of free 1955-57 content the site has to
offer.
Bowtieguy
Bob Yarnell
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "shew", INTERNET:ethan@compunet.net
Happy New Year to everyone.
I would like to respond to Jerry Casper about putting on a snap top on a
Chevy. I was in a Wal Mart on Dec 27, I was thumbing through all the car
magazines in a "lowrider" magazine they showed how to install a cloth sun
roof, I believe it was a universal kit. Just thought you may want to check
it out.
Charlie Shew
Castlewood, Va
ethan@compunet.net
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To: Bob Ford, BOB_FORD
From: Tamara Tresko, INTERNET:twtresko@pacbell.net
BOB
I think anyone has the right to list...and think they are asking a good
price for there car... getting it is another thing..and I agree that some
are really way to high... but who can say what that person thinks is
high??? Just an opinion... Tammy
Wally & Tammy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1656
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5732
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Rick Beavington", INTERNET:rick.b@home.com
Seeing those Numbers makes me think my car is worth alot more :-)
but seeing 2 door hardtops for 40K..that is way out there..
Seems a waste of time
Rick Beavington
57 Ragtop
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