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From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:34 AM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL

THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
OCT 30, 2001

THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. ALL OPINIONS
ARE WELCOME.

TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
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THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Haltaz2@aol.com, INTERNET:Haltaz2@aol.com

To Bob Ford,

haltaz2@aol.com

Bob would you please post this.
I am looking for a 57chevy parts car ( 4 door ) , close to Joplin Mo. at a
reasonable price. If any knows of any they can contact me at the above
E-mail address.

Herman Lambert

Editor's note. Herman, as a teenager in the 50s, I drove to Joplin to go
to the drive in movie. Let me think. Why would a teenager want to go to a
drive in movie? I went to several movies in Joplin. I think I even say a
few of the movies.
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Cary Casum", INTERNET:cc45@con.com

Bob

Please don't ever retire from your list. I have learned a lot from the
year I have been on the list.
It has been a great help to me in restoring my Nomad.

I love the 50's questions you have. I print them out and take them to my
bridge club every week.
While the women play bridge, the men discuss the questions. We have a lot
of fun with the questions.How do you know so much about so many different
things? We often have lively discussion about these questions.

You last question about the "dead man's brake" really has us stumped. We
all agree they were
used on locomotives. 2 of the men in our group worked for the Kansas City
Southern Railroad.
They both agreed that they had never heard of a Chevy locomotive or a GM
locomotive. They
said the most common locomotive they knew about was an EMD locomotive.
They also said
they had seen a GE locomotive.

Please give us the answer. Was that a trick question?

Cary

Editor's note: Well I guess it was sort of a trick question. You are
correct that the "dead man's
brake" was a safety device used on locomotives to apply the brakes if
pressure was released from
a lever or pedal. The thought was that if the engineer died, he/she could
not put pressure on the
lever or pedal and the train would come to a safe stop. It was easy for an
engineer to bypass this
safety device by putting a tool box on the pedal. I am told that a train
going 60 miles per hour
takes over a mile to stop. The modern version of the Dead Man's Brake is
not easy to buy pass.
At timed intervals, an engineer must push a switch or an alarm is sounded
in his area. This alarm
gets louder and louder until the switch is pushed. If the switch is not
pushed the brakes are applied
automatically.

I know the problem you may be having in knowing GM built locomotives. As
an example, we all
know that GM builds cars but there is no GM car (yes there is a GMC truck).
The cars GM
builds are called other names. These names are divisions of GM.

I am not an expert on GM so if I make a mistake here about GM, someone
please let me know. GM is very large company. It has many divisions
other than the ones that build cars. It is not GM's normal practice to use
the name GM on things it builds. They usually use the division's name on
their products. The
locomotives with the EMD name were built by GM's ElectroMotive Division. GM
is either the
number 1 or number 2 maker of locomotives to this day. Until recently,
anything built by Hughes
was really a GM product. I think Delphi electronics is still a GM company.
Are AC and Delco
still GM companies? They were at one time. GM at one time owned Electric
Data Systems. You
can now get a mortgage on your home from GM. No, you don't get a car with
the mortgage. Just the payments. So it is quite common to see a product
that was built by GM but it does not have their name on it.
List members do I have all this information correct?

BOB
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:lou1@westnet.com, INTERNET:lou1@westnet.com

i saw a car show on cable tv and they put a nail into a glass of 100 pct.
anti-freeze. it rusted.
but it didn't rust when it was a 50/50 mix.

louis
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com, INTERNET:D56CHEVY@aol.com

Hi All

Its me again- I am doing a new custom interior in my 56 and was wondering
if there is anyone out there that is interested in my seat 'covers'?

Also I've been told that my rear bumper is better than cruise quality- I
have a full out show car so I guess I judge it a bit harsh!LOL

Its a 3 piece chrome rear bumper in better than good condition-if you are
interested please contact me

You can see them on my website or I can send you a pic.

thanks

lenny Schaeffer
Malden MA
D56chevy@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/d56chevy
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com

I've got some more used '55-'57 Chevy parts for sale. Check them out--->
cowl tags: '57 210 4dr wagon, paint 795A (solid Larkspur Blue) $15; '57
BA
4dr hardtop, paint 822 OA (Dusk Pearl/Imperial Ivory) $20; '56 BA 4dr
sedan,
paint 700 (Sierra Gold/Adobe Beige) $15; '56 210 9 passenger wagon, trim
572
(turquoise!), paint 710 (Twilight Turquoise/Indian Ivory) $20; '55 210 4dr

wagon paint 599 (Seamist/Neptune Greens) $15; pair of front door armrests
for '56 210 wagon or DelRay, turquoise $30pair; 210 2dr beltline trim, 4
pieces $80; '57 BA/210 4dr body side moldings (various pieces); '55 210
4dr
rear door spears $20pair; '56 BA hardtop/Nomad light green sunvisors
$10pair; '57 6cyl starter $25; pair of '55/'56 15" wheels, welded style,
blasted and powdercoated $140pair; Nomad/wagon rear seat bottom hinge $15;

'56 2dr hardtop/convertible upper paint dividers, nice! $60pair; '55
sedan
upper paint dividers $40pair; '57 150 / '56 150/210 upper paint dividers
$40pair; '56 BA 4dr hardtop rear door upper paint dividers, nice! $50pair;

'56 BA 4dr hardtop front or rear door moldings $15each. Shipping is
additional.

Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com, INTERNET:GremlinGTs@aol.com

I picked up about 50 old Post magazines from the early 50's thru 60, for
about $5. Lots of Chevy and other GM ads for the cars. The mags are in
decent
shape, some have water damage, others near perfect. Mostly very good
condition. I intend to scan some of the better ads and add them to my
website. Found numerous ads for such things at Eaton axles, Autotronic-Eye,

Power steering and other "advances" of the times. Pretty nice selection of
ads, these old Post 'zines had LOTS of ads in them! The articles are ok,
too,
I found one on a boxer who was paralyzed in an accident for awhile, he was
driving a '57 Chevy sedan, and it flipped over, and crushed somewhat,
pinched
a nerve enough to paralyze him. He recovered. Found some nice ads for the
'58
Chevies, too, along with old NASCAR ads with some nice Tri-chevy cars in
them. Well, that's all for now. I'll let the list know when some are
available for viewing. Sayonarra,

Jerry
'57 4-dr 210 sedan'
'55 Chevy Suburban
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com, INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com

Hay Bob,
I was talkin to a guy the other day with a very fast 57 and he told me
about a second hand store with all sorts of Nascar engines and parts
somewhere in N. Carolina. Have you ever heard of such a place? What's the
skinney?
Paul
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:well_mhp@ACCESS-K12.org, INTERNET:well_mhp@ACCESS-K12.org

I am searching for the following parts:

1957 Chevy 150 4dr sedan RH rear door molding

1958-1960 Chevy Impala stearing wheel

Thanks

Mike Powell
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com, INTERNET:Lovemy56@aol.com

> Have set of BFG 6.70 x 15 WWW w/800 miles for
> sale.
> Jim
> Raeford, NC
> jkoconnor@aol.com
>
Jim, You DIDN'T give a PRICE for your Coker WWW 6.70's ??????? Richard
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: "Harold H. Huffman", INTERNET:huffman@mail.findlay.edu

Car Rotisserie

Can anyone email me the plans & specs on building a body rotisserie for
a 55?

Thanks,
Harold H. Huffman
e-mail: huffman@findlay.edu
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Mike Cannon, INTERNET:mike1999@msn.com

Hey Bob

Great list. Please keep it up. I look forward to each and every one.
This list is serindipity.
I share your love for 50s music.

Mike
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:bryce@accessnv.com, INTERNET:bryce@accessnv.com

I sent a used '70 El Camino door glass to Mid City Glass in Bullhead City
Arizona 5 months ago and they have still never paid me. Lots of promises,
but no money. If you know these guys, PLEASE DO NOT PATRONIZE. Thanks,
Bryce, Las Vegas Nevada
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WILLYHUAZ@aol.com, INTERNET:WILLYHUAZ@aol.com

Hi Bob,
Maybe some of the old coots (like me) know how to convert the 62 Chev Sun
tachometers from the use of batteries. There is some way of wiring the
sending unit to the Sun tach which eliminates the batteries in the
sending unit. I am restoring a 62 Bubbletop 409 and would like to
eliminate
a potential problem. Keep up the great column and say hello to all my
friends at Central California Classic Chevy Club "I miss my 57!!!"
Thanks,
Bill Hughes
willyhuaz@aol.com
509 698-3827

Editor's note. We are not getting older Bill. We are getting better with
age just like wine.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Dick Burrows", INTERNET:bulldog61655@msn.com

Bob: Remember when candy bars cost a nickel and you did not have a nickel
to buy one? Now they cost a dollar and we buy all we want. What was so
good about the good old days?
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "McGinnis, Wayne", INTERNET:wmcginnis@usa.norgren.com

Bob,

I believe you are referring to semi's that had a Jacobsen (son) or "Jake"
brake.
Is that correct?

Wayne McGinnis

Editor's note. As I have found out, several things have "Dead man's
brakes". Someone told me that on trucks that have air brakes, the air
brakes don't work like most people think. They said the air pressure keeps
brakes from being applied. This is a safety measure. If you loose air
pressure, the brakes are applied automatically. Anyone know if this is
correct?
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com, INTERNET:mears@mailexcel.com

Thanks to Bob and everyone else for the help on the wide whitewalls and the
custom Buick grill fit.
I used to have a 1950 Buick that had a carburetor H2O mister plate that sat
between the carburetor and the intake manifold. It had a needle valve
adjustment so you could fine tune the amount of water that mixed with the
gas as it went into the cylinders and a glass reservoir to hold the water.
Anyone remember these, were they functional, can you still acquire them? I
think the marketing brochure said your fuel burned cleaner with the added
mist, you know how your car seems to run smoother in the fog... or am I
just fogged out?
Paul

Editor's note. I used one of these devices at one time. I used it to
prevent pinging in the motor. It worked to stop the pinging. I guess it
kept the temperature in the combustion chamber down. I often wondered if it
caused the manifold and/or the heads to rust.

BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com

Greetings from Nashville, Bob,

Wow. I can't believe I just got around to reading the September 27 "Chevy
List" and your wonderful piece on The Beach Boys. I could not let the story

go unnoticed!

Having grown up in the 50s, 60s, and having been a former manager and
friend
of The Boys for thirty-eight years, I have seen all to many times, the
attraction this great group holds for audiences of all ages.

When I was 19 and promoting the first Beach Boys concerts in the early 60s,

even then, we had grandparents, parents and their kids, attending the
shows.
The Boys, with their white pants, striped shirts, and 'all-American'
wholesome good looks, epitomized the world's perception of California. Now,

in a period that spans five decades, there are actually five generations of

fans who attend various Beach Boys concerts!

Brian, who recently finished a national tour with Paul Simon, Al Jardine,
who's 'Family and Friends Beach Band,' and Mike Love and Bruce Johnston,
who
tour as The Beach Boys, continue to attract family audiences with their
family oriented shows.

People are always recounting their favorite Beach Boys stories to me and
all
of them are just as interested in hearing MY stories of what it was like
working with the band through the years.

What may be of special interest to 'us' diehard Chevy List readers is the
fact that nowadays while it is not unusual to see the rock stars arrive in
chauffeured limos or million dollar tour buses, in the early days, it was a

far, far different picture.

On my 'first' Beach Boys date (May 24, 1963) I picked the Boys up in my
folk's 54 Chevy wagon. We loaded ALL of their gear into the back. There
were
no 'roadies,' no fans screaming when they stepped off the plane. In fact,
we
all pitched in and grabbed the gear as it lay on the tarmac, loaded it into

the wagon, and headed for the gig! (No fancy gateways, lounges, or airport
lobbies featuring McDonalds and TGIFs in those days, folks.)

I got a kick out of reading your comments on "Rhonda" and "Fun, Fun, Fun,"
('daddy took the T-bird away'). In fact, as to the latter, not only was I
at
the session, but I was with Brian when he was writing the song.

We recorded "Fun" on New Year's Day, 1964. The night before, December 31,
we'd played a teen club in San Bernardino (Bob Eubank's 'Cinnamon Cinder')
and on the way back to the Wilson home in Hawthorne, Carl and I were
listening to KFWB as they 'counted down' the hits of 1963. When they got to

the #1 song of the year, it was, quite appropriately, "Surfin' USA!" We
let
out a yell that must have woken up everybody in the Inland Empire. Those
were
great times.

As to the latest on Jan & Dean, yes, Jan--injured in a mid-60s auto
accident--is still very much alive. He's never really recovered from the
accident (it is rumored that it took place on the 'real' "Dead Man's Curve"

on Sunset Blvd.), but they still do concerts on a semi-frequent basis. Dean

has appeared with the Beach Boys on a number of occasions through the years

and was also heard on the Boys hit single, "Barbara Ann."

Always great to read the "List," Bob, and as to celebrating birthdays, I'm
about like you. Just keep 're-celebrating' my 29th!

Regards,

Fred Vail
Nashville, TN

Editor's note. Wow Fred, you must have had a great knowledge of the music
business at a very early age.
I know millions of people are happy for what you did to promote the Beach
Boys. Remember when some cabinet secretary did not want the Beach Boys to
perform on the Washington mall and President Regan over ruled the decision
and personally came to their concert?

Is it true that Al Jardine at one time thought the Beach Boys were not
going to be a success and quit to go to college?

I am old enough to remember when KFWB was a music station. As you may know
now, it is all news. When I tell people it was a music station, they think
I am not playing with a full deck. They all say, don't you mean KRLA.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Susan Amoroso", INTERNET:badblue38@home.com

HI BOB, I WAS WONDERING WHO I COULD TALK TO ABOUT A BRAKE PROBLEM?

Editor's note. What is the problem?
BOB
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Dave Hecker", INTERNET:dhecker@presenter.com

FYI,

Tim Allen's '55 Nomad used in Home Improvement is up for auction on
Ebay's Auction for America and all the proceeds go to The Twin Towers
Fund. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1653743250
It is signed by Tim Allen and Jay Leno. I'm sure this will require
someone with deep pockets.

Thanks,

Dave Hecker
Vice President San Jose Classic Chevys
http://clubs.hemmings.com/sjcc
dhecker@presenter.com

Editor's note. Is that the Nomad that Tim dropped the pole on.
BOB
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Wayne Clifton", INTERNET:wclifton@bellatlantic.net

Hi Bob,

I have a question about an engine block that I'm hoping someone on The List
can help.

I have a '71 350 block that I plan to use '67 "camel-hump" heads on. When
I
put the heads on, they partially cover a threaded hole in the block. I
don't know what the hole does, but I'm pretty sure that they shouldn't line
up like that.

The hole in question in the rear of the block -- where it's machined for
the oil pressure sender. I know that the oil pressure sender goes into the
hole that's on the top of the block -- right at the rear of the intake.
But
on the driver's side (end) of that machined area, it's then machined at a
downward angle -- like toward the master cylinder. On that sloped surface
there's a threaded hole in the machined part. It's a bigger diameter than
the oil pressure sender, and when the head is on, it covers half of the
hole, so nothing can possibly fit into there. I'm stumped.

Does anyone know what that hole does?? Should I just plug it?? Any help
and guidance on this would be greatly appreciated.

Wayne Clifton
Pittsburgh, PA

Editor's note. It probably has something to do with smog equipment.
BOB
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:Sjrwonder@aol.com, INTERNET:Sjrwonder@aol.com

Bob
I recently noticed a 55 chevy original 4 barrel air cleaner sold for $280
on EBAY. It was in good condition but not perfect.
Dust off those old parts. It looks like the accessories can be worth more
than the whole motor or trans.
Please don't flood the market because I want to sell my 55 air cleaner, but
I'll wait a while.

Steve Roth
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com, INTERNET:elliotce@songs.sce.com

Bob
Street cars or trolleys, railroad engines and gantry or rail cranes all
used Dead man brakes. If you took your foot off the brake pedal it would
stop. So if something happened to the driver (ie dying) the train or
whatever would not continue and crash into something. I know they are
still in use on Gantry cranes and I would assume they are still used on
trains.

Thanks for all you do with your list. I look forward to reading it as soon
as it comes.

Chuck Elliott
57 conv
57 210 wagon
57 Nomad
elliotce@songs.sce.com
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "Francis, Roger D, NTCOM", INTERNET:rdfrancis@att.com

Bob.... They used deadman brakes on trains and cranes and trolley cars. I
think they are still used on subways.

Roger Francis
56 Nomad
56 Beauville
56 Suburban
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com, INTERNET:roy.r.nagel@gm.com

Bob,

Great entertainment, this list! Please keep up the good work.

Well, I'd heard the term "Dead Man's Throttle used more frequently, but I
think
we're both speaking of the same thing: namely, the mechanism on a
locomotive
which automatically brakes the train to a stop in the event the engineer
relaxes
his/her grip on the throttle. Electromotive Division of GM in LaGrange,
ILL was
the manufacturer you had in mind, of course.

Roy
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From: Editor

Some odd facts. We drive on parkways and park on driveways.
BOB
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BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
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I plan to live forever. So far so good.