From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: July01??2002?~Monday 8:05 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
JULY 1, 2002
IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EDIT OUT ANY MATERIAL NOT
APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME AS THE LAST THING ON YOUR E-MAIL.
IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
NO WAY OF KNOWING THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT OR THE HONESTY OF THE
SELLER. BUYER BEWARE.
BECAUSE OF THE DANGER OF A VIRUS, PLEASE DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS
WITH YOUR E-MAIL. E-MAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE READ.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
__________________________________________________ ____________________
To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: Floyd Albright, INTERNET:fastimage@attbi.com
From: Bill Kautz, INTERNET:kautz@comcast.net
Hi Floyd,
Ames Performance Engineering is a Pontiac only parts place. Good prices,
excellent service, knowledgeable sales people. www.amesperf.com Another
excellent source for automobile parts is Kanter. www.kanter.com They also
have good prices and excellent service. Good luck! Wild Bill
-------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:JStrelis@aol.com
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com
To John Strelis about air conditioning,
I installed a kit from Old Air Products in Texas in my 1955 BelAir.
They were $200.00 cheaper then Vintage Air and were very helpfull answering
all my questions
The only problem I had was a bad compressor that they gladly replaced. I
think the compressor went bad because I accidentally let some oil that was
in it drip out before hooking it up. Their web site is:
Kim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:TOTALFLOOR@aol.com, INTERNET:TOTALFLOOR@aol.com
Has anyone on the list installed a blown Chrysler hemi motor in a '55
Chevy?
Will it fit? Any obstacles to look for, besides the obvious? This will
remain
a street driven car. Bob, thanks for continuing this wonderful undertaking.
The info I have received so far is priceless.
------------------------
To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "Knopp, Tom", INTERNET:tknopp@cmpd.org
helpfull hint: I bought a new power steering pump for my 55 from
harmons(they had a 10% off sale). its the standard pump for a 605 box.I
tried to put it on and the return line out of the pump is in the center and
wont clear my small block chevy motor. My old pump had the return line
coming out the back at "9 oclock" position. Im having to fab new brackets
to
relocate the pump 1.5 inches out to clear.Just thought you might wanna pass
the FYI on.
--------------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "john cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
Hi Bob, re First Chev V8 Produced, I believe the First chev V8 was around
1918 Believe it or not, sort of remember visiting Bill Smith's Speedway
Motors in Lincoln Nebraska about 4 years back and he had a "Mint" condition
1918/1919 OHV Chev V8 in his Fantastic Restored & Rare Engine Display, Why
GM never put them into full Production I dont Know, but, Bill's Mueseum of
Engines should not be missed by any one passing through this part of the
USA. Bill has some of ( and maybe the only) rarest Engines ever produced by
the Motor Companies , along with a dedicated Staff restoring same,
Experimental, Production, Bill has it & then some .all On Display for our
Future Generation to see how Vehicles were & are Powered through History,
along with the Greatest collection of Pedal Car's etc, every thing is
Authentic and Restored to better than new.
If you want to see a V12 Chev Small Block Complete Turn Key (?) Visit
SpeedwayMotors once in your Life Time. For those who have never heard of
Bill Smith,
he mass produced T-Ford Hot Rod Body & Chasis Kits for the Masses via Mail
Order. Like JC Whitney. Honest Charlie, Speed-O-Motive, Ed Iskenderian,
Edelbrock etc etc these Guys Gave the Performance Industry a Kick Start,
back in the Good Old days !!!!!!!!!. The day we Visited the Museum was
Closed its alongside their warehouse/Retail outlet, we were checking the
store out when someone asked us where we were from..Australia..next thing
they opened the Museum up for a couple of hours for us to roam the Museum ,
even had a young guy explain what it was all about & why it exists in this
almost forgotten part of your USA, A long way from anywhere, but well worth
the Trip back in Time. Country Folk and Hospitality next to
none...John.....An.Aussie Downunder .
-------------------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Lenny Schaeffer", INTERNET
56chevy@attbi.com
HI ALL- Again BOB_ great list-
Anyone out there in cyberspace going to the SYRACUSE nationals in JULY?
IF so, look for me (I know thats hard with 6000 cars but it IS a PURPLE 56
CHEvy with flames)
Id love to meet some list members......
Lenny Schaeffer
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
Burlington MA
BEARING BURNERS WEBSITE:
------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "MikeKy", INTERNET:mikeky01@insightbb.com
Due to the War in 1942 the national speed limit was set at 35MPH and no
pleasure driving was allowed.
Thanks
Mike
Louisville Ky
---------------
To: "Bob Ford of LACCC", BOB_FORD
From: "Jerry & Janet Mull", INTERNET:jmull@sprintmail.com
Hi Bob-
I just got this message from Bob Greenberg. I've sent out messages to all
my contacts and only a couple, noted below, have responded. Where are all
the restored top quality classic Chevys in Southern California? Please
contact Bob directly. It's a very top notch annual Show. -Jerry Mull LACCC
President
---------------------------------------------
I'd like to enlist your help in obtaining additional '55 to '57 Chevys in
our show. As I've told you before, it will be held at the Ocean Trails golf
course in PV on September 22. More information is at our web site,
www.pvconcours.com We plan to send invitations to the Concours next week
and I'm still short on Concours quality stock or restored cars.
I currently plan to invite:
Don Kent's '57 Bel Aire Coupe
Steve Edward's '56 Nomad
Jim Oneal's '55 Nomad (under restoration)
Bruce Leed's '57 BelAir Coupe
I'm trying to get a response from Stuart Horowitz re showing his '55 Police
Car
I'm also trying to a get a response from Bob Fox re his '57 FI Coupe
We'd like to have about four more cars at our Concours. In particular, are
there some first class convertible owners that would be interested? I'd
appreciate a response with an email address and phone number of a
prospective car owner. I can be reached at 310-541-9647 or
bobgreenberg@cox.net Thanks for your help.
----------------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Rolasan@aol.com, INTERNET:Rolasan@aol.com
On the question of the first Chevy V-8. It came much earlier than 1927. It
was more like 1916 or 1917. It had external push rods and/or external
rockers. It was not ever put into production, probably because it was not
practical rather that the power concerns. I doubt it was anything close to
the '55 small block in design. The '55 Chevy 265 has always been referred
to
as the first Chevy V-8, even though it technically not.
Bob Sanford
-----------------------------
To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com, INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com
I am looking for a '56 265 V* four barrel engine complete, preferably with
code GE for a 3 sped overdrive transmission. I'm in the Cincinnati, Ohio
area. Anybody have one at a reasonable price? Thanks, David Browe
--------------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Nomadcpa@aol.com, INTERNET:Nomadcpa@aol.com
Dear Bob:
Love the list. I am glad you will live forever because that is how long I
want to be reading it.
In response to Bud Woods query. Ed Cole would have been extremely young.
Prior to 1955, Chevy produced V8s in1917 and 1918. I saw a 1918 version at
a
VCCA show last September 10 (just before our world got turned upside down).
There were more than minimal differences between that and the small block
of
1955.
I don't know what you were referring to comparing speeds in 1942 and Los
Angeles freeways today. I was on the 405 yesterday and if you were
referring
to STOP AND GO, that is my answer.
Sherwin Silver
Classic Chevys of Southern California
Editor's note. Is the405 a freeway. When I have been on it, it is usually
a parking lot. <g>
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Bob Woods said the first Chevy V8 was built in 1927 - actually it was
1917 but was in an expensive model and only a few hundred were made. The
original Harrahs museum in Sparks, NV had one on display. He also had a
air cooled copper Chev engine of 1923 which supposedly was recalled
very soon after production as it was a total disaster.
Sort of interesting what he had to say about the 1927 V8 though,
twisting the frame rails and such. Wonder how many model A and deuce
frame rails have been twisted out of shape by the Ed Cole motor?
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
--------------------------
To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Memory is the second thing to go, but I believe the1942 speed limit was
35 MPH, placed as an "economy" measure due to fuel needs for WWII. They
also had ration stamps - most people got three (3!!) gallons of gas per
week.
I'm old, but not that old. My full Social Security does not start until
Wednesday the 3rd. My daddy told me.
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
--------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Greetings, Bob,
I attended my first "Bow Tie" regional event in Nashville this weekend!
Great
group of folks--not only Dan, Lenny and Bob, but the volunteers who helped
stage the show, the quality and fairness of judging, and the fellowship.
At least four folks came up and introduced themselves to me who had read
our
'exchanges' in your "List." They recalled the many e-mails I've sent
regarding music trivia and real life experiences, and the effort I went
through to FINALLY get a great Tri-Five Chevy, via the exposure (dare I say
PR) in your letter.
I want to especially recognize Marlon Echols, the Tennessee Stat Associate
for "Bow Tie" Chevy, who came up to me and introduced himself as one of
your
great readers. We spent a good part of the Friday evening 'Pool Party'
chatting about your List, The Beach Boys, and--of course--Tri-Five Chevys!
He was kind enough to walk me through the judging process and tell me where
I
could make improvements on my '55 Bel Air.
The same "thanks" go out to Herb Spies, the FL State rep for CCI, and his
wife, for their genuine friendship and 'pointers.' I had the good fortune
to
be parked next to Herb for two days and I learned so much from him about
improving my car. Also, congratulations to Herb for taking a 1st Place in
his
category with 986 'Gold' points. Great job, Herb! I hope to join you and
the
whole Pensacola, FL gang for your annual Halloween Show.
Denny made the remark that he can always count on a lot of '55s when they
come to Tennessee--especially modified and custom ones!! That was, perhaps,
the predominate category at the two day meet. It was only my third show,
and
my first 1,000 point show, so I was there as much to learn, as to be
judged.
I even was given the opportunity to judge in the Governor's 100 point
competition. I, and another nice fellow, judged nine cars.
Denny made the remark that we are all there to have fun and to appreciate
all
the workmanship, creativity, and financial investment that folks put into
their cars. I might add, Denny, that we should also be thankful for the
'passion' and 'love' we share for
this great 'family' experience!
I've barely had my '55 Bel Air three months, and have--along with my good
friend, cheerleader and mechanic, Mack Choate--put a number of days and,
perhaps, a $1,000 into the car since purchasing it from Brian Condra in
late
April. I've done three shows, two local 'car club' type shows, placing 2nd
and 3rd, and this weekend's "Bow Tie" 1,000 point event. In the 'original
restored' driver category #1 (no modifications), I placed 1st today, with a
'Silver Certificate' total of 936 points. Not too shabby for our first such
competition.
I'm looking forward to the possibility of going to the "Bow Tie" Tulsa, OK,
show September 21, and, perhaps, the Eastern CCI show in Mooresville, NC on
August 4. If I do these two shows, I will have doubled in five months, the
mileage that Brian put on the car in nearly three years! But if you 'can't
drive 'em, why own 'em,' is my motto! (my apologies to all the great
trailored cars--over 60--I saw this weekend in Nashville
Again, Bob, 'thanks' for all the hard and 'thankless' work you do on behalf
of our hobby! And, to your great readers, keep that information flowing!
Regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Terry Houchins, INTERNET:terry75115@yahoo.com
Bob,
If anyone is interested in seeing photos of my project
57 Chevy 2dr Hdtp they can go to:
Happy viewing
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:woody@ctcweb.net
From: INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com, INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com
Dear Bob,
OK, for this weeks question first: you ask what the national speed limit
imposed in 1942 was. I believe (and remember this is slightly before my
time)
that it was 35 mph.
And, for Woody who commented about the supposed '27 Chevy V8: I'm afraid
you
got the history a bit mixed up. The only engine Chevy was offering for the
1927 models (and 1928 as well) was an OHV 4-cylinder. The first (three-main
bearing) version of the stovebolt six came along for the '29 model year.
There was an earlier Chevy OHV V8, but it was in the late teens. As I
recall,
displacement was around 288 cubic inches. This engine shared absolutely
nothing with the '55 and later Chevy smallblock. I have some references and
can dig up the specs if someone is really curious. And as to Ed Cole
possibly
having any involvement in its' design, keep in mind that he would have been
in kindergarten at the time!
----------------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com, INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com
In response to Bud Woods question about Ed Cole being in on the 1927
V8, I wasn't referring to that earliest ChevyV8. I meant that he engineered
the original modern day V8 that was introduced in the 1955 Chevrolet. Mr.
Cole (as a relatively young man) worked under Harley Earl during the last
years of Mr. Earl's career with GM. I am pretty sure that the last
automobile
GM produced with Earl as chief designer was the 1959 Cadillac.
--------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Karfitter@aol.com, INTERNET:Karfitter@aol.com
Hi Bob.
I am only 38, but as i recall the original small block chevy was designed
by a man named Zora Artis Duntoff. ( spelling may not be right ). The same
man that invented alot of the flat-head ford Hi-po parts. The story that
I've
always heard was that he designed the motor and tried to sell it to
Cadillac,
Olds, Ford and nobody wanted it.
My father told me this story years ago. He said that Duntoff had lived in
France during WW II, and used his souped up flat-head to smuggle valuables
out of the country and away from the Germans. He would sneak out of his
bedroom, while his mother thought he was asleep in the next room, He would
run all night. My father also told me that Duntoff didn't get the credit
but
he had invented the Arden after market HI-PO heads for the flat-head.
This may or may not be true, but its my story and Im sticken to it.
Thanks for the great list Bob!! Life would'nt be the same without it.
Kevin in Delawere
1, 55 2dr ht. full power everything.
2, 55 2dr sedans
And a front engine draster
-------------------------------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNETPete57@aol.com, INTERNETPete57@aol.com
Bob, I worked for a short time in Iowa as an Encyclopedia salesman, same
pitch and then as a siding salesman. I was not able to be a "shark" like
most
of the others so I got out of that type of business but I think that the
ones
who succeeded at that type of sales tactics are probably the ones who are
running Enron/WorldCom and the government.... Whatchathink???????
Don,I have a complete front end for a '57 Chevy for sale, and I am parting
out a
'57 4-door , I have a lot of parts for sale. I am in Hollister,CA Thanks
,Don DPete57@aol.com
Editor's note. Sounds like you and I think alike. I would hate to admit
all of the jobs I had while I was going to college. I thought I was rich
if I had 4 tires on my car that held air. Anyone remember patching tubes
so they would hold air.
BOB
---------------------
To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: John Jameson, INTERNET:lmj@softnet.net
Re the question on why not fixed car prices. This is just my opinion. We
don't have fixed car prices because dealers make more money that way.
However with the large number of people using car buying services (Sams,
Costco, Auto Club, etc) I think car dealers may be living in the past.
With carsdirect.com, you can buy a new car and never talk to a dealer. It
seems like a great way to go.
John
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end of 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
VILLA PARK, CALIFORNIA 92861-2648
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
VOICE 714-637-8877
FAX 714-637-2955
Editor of the 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST and TURBOGLIDE REGISTRY
I plan to live forever, so far so good
Sent: July01??2002?~Monday 8:05 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
JULY 1, 2002
IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EDIT OUT ANY MATERIAL NOT
APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME AS THE LAST THING ON YOUR E-MAIL.
IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
NO WAY OF KNOWING THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT OR THE HONESTY OF THE
SELLER. BUYER BEWARE.
BECAUSE OF THE DANGER OF A VIRUS, PLEASE DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS
WITH YOUR E-MAIL. E-MAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE READ.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
__________________________________________________ ____________________
To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
CC: Floyd Albright, INTERNET:fastimage@attbi.com
From: Bill Kautz, INTERNET:kautz@comcast.net
Hi Floyd,
Ames Performance Engineering is a Pontiac only parts place. Good prices,
excellent service, knowledgeable sales people. www.amesperf.com Another
excellent source for automobile parts is Kanter. www.kanter.com They also
have good prices and excellent service. Good luck! Wild Bill
-------------------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:JStrelis@aol.com
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com
To John Strelis about air conditioning,
I installed a kit from Old Air Products in Texas in my 1955 BelAir.
They were $200.00 cheaper then Vintage Air and were very helpfull answering
all my questions
The only problem I had was a bad compressor that they gladly replaced. I
think the compressor went bad because I accidentally let some oil that was
in it drip out before hooking it up. Their web site is:
Kim
-----------
To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:TOTALFLOOR@aol.com, INTERNET:TOTALFLOOR@aol.com
Has anyone on the list installed a blown Chrysler hemi motor in a '55
Chevy?
Will it fit? Any obstacles to look for, besides the obvious? This will
remain
a street driven car. Bob, thanks for continuing this wonderful undertaking.
The info I have received so far is priceless.
------------------------
To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: "Knopp, Tom", INTERNET:tknopp@cmpd.org
helpfull hint: I bought a new power steering pump for my 55 from
harmons(they had a 10% off sale). its the standard pump for a 605 box.I
tried to put it on and the return line out of the pump is in the center and
wont clear my small block chevy motor. My old pump had the return line
coming out the back at "9 oclock" position. Im having to fab new brackets
to
relocate the pump 1.5 inches out to clear.Just thought you might wanna pass
the FYI on.
--------------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "john cain", INTERNET:john.cain@hunterlink.net.au
Hi Bob, re First Chev V8 Produced, I believe the First chev V8 was around
1918 Believe it or not, sort of remember visiting Bill Smith's Speedway
Motors in Lincoln Nebraska about 4 years back and he had a "Mint" condition
1918/1919 OHV Chev V8 in his Fantastic Restored & Rare Engine Display, Why
GM never put them into full Production I dont Know, but, Bill's Mueseum of
Engines should not be missed by any one passing through this part of the
USA. Bill has some of ( and maybe the only) rarest Engines ever produced by
the Motor Companies , along with a dedicated Staff restoring same,
Experimental, Production, Bill has it & then some .all On Display for our
Future Generation to see how Vehicles were & are Powered through History,
along with the Greatest collection of Pedal Car's etc, every thing is
Authentic and Restored to better than new.
If you want to see a V12 Chev Small Block Complete Turn Key (?) Visit
SpeedwayMotors once in your Life Time. For those who have never heard of
Bill Smith,
he mass produced T-Ford Hot Rod Body & Chasis Kits for the Masses via Mail
Order. Like JC Whitney. Honest Charlie, Speed-O-Motive, Ed Iskenderian,
Edelbrock etc etc these Guys Gave the Performance Industry a Kick Start,
back in the Good Old days !!!!!!!!!. The day we Visited the Museum was
Closed its alongside their warehouse/Retail outlet, we were checking the
store out when someone asked us where we were from..Australia..next thing
they opened the Museum up for a couple of hours for us to roam the Museum ,
even had a young guy explain what it was all about & why it exists in this
almost forgotten part of your USA, A long way from anywhere, but well worth
the Trip back in Time. Country Folk and Hospitality next to
none...John.....An.Aussie Downunder .
-------------------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Lenny Schaeffer", INTERNET
56chevy@attbi.comHI ALL- Again BOB_ great list-
Anyone out there in cyberspace going to the SYRACUSE nationals in JULY?
IF so, look for me (I know thats hard with 6000 cars but it IS a PURPLE 56
CHEvy with flames)
Id love to meet some list members......
Lenny Schaeffer
President
Bearing Burners Car Club
Burlington MA
BEARING BURNERS WEBSITE:
------------
To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "MikeKy", INTERNET:mikeky01@insightbb.com
Due to the War in 1942 the national speed limit was set at 35MPH and no
pleasure driving was allowed.
Thanks
Mike
Louisville Ky
---------------
To: "Bob Ford of LACCC", BOB_FORD
From: "Jerry & Janet Mull", INTERNET:jmull@sprintmail.com
Hi Bob-
I just got this message from Bob Greenberg. I've sent out messages to all
my contacts and only a couple, noted below, have responded. Where are all
the restored top quality classic Chevys in Southern California? Please
contact Bob directly. It's a very top notch annual Show. -Jerry Mull LACCC
President
---------------------------------------------
I'd like to enlist your help in obtaining additional '55 to '57 Chevys in
our show. As I've told you before, it will be held at the Ocean Trails golf
course in PV on September 22. More information is at our web site,
www.pvconcours.com We plan to send invitations to the Concours next week
and I'm still short on Concours quality stock or restored cars.
I currently plan to invite:
Don Kent's '57 Bel Aire Coupe
Steve Edward's '56 Nomad
Jim Oneal's '55 Nomad (under restoration)
Bruce Leed's '57 BelAir Coupe
I'm trying to get a response from Stuart Horowitz re showing his '55 Police
Car
I'm also trying to a get a response from Bob Fox re his '57 FI Coupe
We'd like to have about four more cars at our Concours. In particular, are
there some first class convertible owners that would be interested? I'd
appreciate a response with an email address and phone number of a
prospective car owner. I can be reached at 310-541-9647 or
bobgreenberg@cox.net Thanks for your help.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Rolasan@aol.com, INTERNET:Rolasan@aol.com
On the question of the first Chevy V-8. It came much earlier than 1927. It
was more like 1916 or 1917. It had external push rods and/or external
rockers. It was not ever put into production, probably because it was not
practical rather that the power concerns. I doubt it was anything close to
the '55 small block in design. The '55 Chevy 265 has always been referred
to
as the first Chevy V-8, even though it technically not.
Bob Sanford
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com, INTERNET:Browser521@aol.com
I am looking for a '56 265 V* four barrel engine complete, preferably with
code GE for a 3 sped overdrive transmission. I'm in the Cincinnati, Ohio
area. Anybody have one at a reasonable price? Thanks, David Browe
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Nomadcpa@aol.com, INTERNET:Nomadcpa@aol.com
Dear Bob:
Love the list. I am glad you will live forever because that is how long I
want to be reading it.
In response to Bud Woods query. Ed Cole would have been extremely young.
Prior to 1955, Chevy produced V8s in1917 and 1918. I saw a 1918 version at
a
VCCA show last September 10 (just before our world got turned upside down).
There were more than minimal differences between that and the small block
of
1955.
I don't know what you were referring to comparing speeds in 1942 and Los
Angeles freeways today. I was on the 405 yesterday and if you were
referring
to STOP AND GO, that is my answer.
Sherwin Silver
Classic Chevys of Southern California
Editor's note. Is the405 a freeway. When I have been on it, it is usually
a parking lot. <g>
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Bob Woods said the first Chevy V8 was built in 1927 - actually it was
1917 but was in an expensive model and only a few hundred were made. The
original Harrahs museum in Sparks, NV had one on display. He also had a
air cooled copper Chev engine of 1923 which supposedly was recalled
very soon after production as it was a total disaster.
Sort of interesting what he had to say about the 1927 V8 though,
twisting the frame rails and such. Wonder how many model A and deuce
frame rails have been twisted out of shape by the Ed Cole motor?
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Sanford "Sandy" Pierce, INTERNET:mr55chev@webtv.net
Memory is the second thing to go, but I believe the1942 speed limit was
35 MPH, placed as an "economy" measure due to fuel needs for WWII. They
also had ration stamps - most people got three (3!!) gallons of gas per
week.
I'm old, but not that old. My full Social Security does not start until
Wednesday the 3rd. My daddy told me.
On the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
(and GMC Suburban Pickups)
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com, INTERNET:MuzikBiz01@aol.com
Greetings, Bob,
I attended my first "Bow Tie" regional event in Nashville this weekend!
Great
group of folks--not only Dan, Lenny and Bob, but the volunteers who helped
stage the show, the quality and fairness of judging, and the fellowship.
At least four folks came up and introduced themselves to me who had read
our
'exchanges' in your "List." They recalled the many e-mails I've sent
regarding music trivia and real life experiences, and the effort I went
through to FINALLY get a great Tri-Five Chevy, via the exposure (dare I say
PR) in your letter.
I want to especially recognize Marlon Echols, the Tennessee Stat Associate
for "Bow Tie" Chevy, who came up to me and introduced himself as one of
your
great readers. We spent a good part of the Friday evening 'Pool Party'
chatting about your List, The Beach Boys, and--of course--Tri-Five Chevys!
He was kind enough to walk me through the judging process and tell me where
I
could make improvements on my '55 Bel Air.
The same "thanks" go out to Herb Spies, the FL State rep for CCI, and his
wife, for their genuine friendship and 'pointers.' I had the good fortune
to
be parked next to Herb for two days and I learned so much from him about
improving my car. Also, congratulations to Herb for taking a 1st Place in
his
category with 986 'Gold' points. Great job, Herb! I hope to join you and
the
whole Pensacola, FL gang for your annual Halloween Show.
Denny made the remark that he can always count on a lot of '55s when they
come to Tennessee--especially modified and custom ones!! That was, perhaps,
the predominate category at the two day meet. It was only my third show,
and
my first 1,000 point show, so I was there as much to learn, as to be
judged.
I even was given the opportunity to judge in the Governor's 100 point
competition. I, and another nice fellow, judged nine cars.
Denny made the remark that we are all there to have fun and to appreciate
all
the workmanship, creativity, and financial investment that folks put into
their cars. I might add, Denny, that we should also be thankful for the
'passion' and 'love' we share for
this great 'family' experience!
I've barely had my '55 Bel Air three months, and have--along with my good
friend, cheerleader and mechanic, Mack Choate--put a number of days and,
perhaps, a $1,000 into the car since purchasing it from Brian Condra in
late
April. I've done three shows, two local 'car club' type shows, placing 2nd
and 3rd, and this weekend's "Bow Tie" 1,000 point event. In the 'original
restored' driver category #1 (no modifications), I placed 1st today, with a
'Silver Certificate' total of 936 points. Not too shabby for our first such
competition.
I'm looking forward to the possibility of going to the "Bow Tie" Tulsa, OK,
show September 21, and, perhaps, the Eastern CCI show in Mooresville, NC on
August 4. If I do these two shows, I will have doubled in five months, the
mileage that Brian put on the car in nearly three years! But if you 'can't
drive 'em, why own 'em,' is my motto! (my apologies to all the great
trailored cars--over 60--I saw this weekend in Nashville
Again, Bob, 'thanks' for all the hard and 'thankless' work you do on behalf
of our hobby! And, to your great readers, keep that information flowing!
Regards,
Fred Vail
Nashville, TN
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Terry Houchins, INTERNET:terry75115@yahoo.com
Bob,
If anyone is interested in seeing photos of my project
57 Chevy 2dr Hdtp they can go to:
Happy viewing
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:woody@ctcweb.net
From: INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com, INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com
Dear Bob,
OK, for this weeks question first: you ask what the national speed limit
imposed in 1942 was. I believe (and remember this is slightly before my
time)
that it was 35 mph.
And, for Woody who commented about the supposed '27 Chevy V8: I'm afraid
you
got the history a bit mixed up. The only engine Chevy was offering for the
1927 models (and 1928 as well) was an OHV 4-cylinder. The first (three-main
bearing) version of the stovebolt six came along for the '29 model year.
There was an earlier Chevy OHV V8, but it was in the late teens. As I
recall,
displacement was around 288 cubic inches. This engine shared absolutely
nothing with the '55 and later Chevy smallblock. I have some references and
can dig up the specs if someone is really curious. And as to Ed Cole
possibly
having any involvement in its' design, keep in mind that he would have been
in kindergarten at the time!
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com, INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com
In response to Bud Woods question about Ed Cole being in on the 1927
V8, I wasn't referring to that earliest ChevyV8. I meant that he engineered
the original modern day V8 that was introduced in the 1955 Chevrolet. Mr.
Cole (as a relatively young man) worked under Harley Earl during the last
years of Mr. Earl's career with GM. I am pretty sure that the last
automobile
GM produced with Earl as chief designer was the 1959 Cadillac.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Karfitter@aol.com, INTERNET:Karfitter@aol.com
Hi Bob.
I am only 38, but as i recall the original small block chevy was designed
by a man named Zora Artis Duntoff. ( spelling may not be right ). The same
man that invented alot of the flat-head ford Hi-po parts. The story that
I've
always heard was that he designed the motor and tried to sell it to
Cadillac,
Olds, Ford and nobody wanted it.
My father told me this story years ago. He said that Duntoff had lived in
France during WW II, and used his souped up flat-head to smuggle valuables
out of the country and away from the Germans. He would sneak out of his
bedroom, while his mother thought he was asleep in the next room, He would
run all night. My father also told me that Duntoff didn't get the credit
but
he had invented the Arden after market HI-PO heads for the flat-head.
This may or may not be true, but its my story and Im sticken to it.
Thanks for the great list Bob!! Life would'nt be the same without it.
Kevin in Delawere
1, 55 2dr ht. full power everything.
2, 55 2dr sedans
And a front engine draster
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET
Pete57@aol.com, INTERNETPete57@aol.comBob, I worked for a short time in Iowa as an Encyclopedia salesman, same
pitch and then as a siding salesman. I was not able to be a "shark" like
most
of the others so I got out of that type of business but I think that the
ones
who succeeded at that type of sales tactics are probably the ones who are
running Enron/WorldCom and the government.... Whatchathink???????
Don,I have a complete front end for a '57 Chevy for sale, and I am parting
out a
'57 4-door , I have a lot of parts for sale. I am in Hollister,CA Thanks
,Don DPete57@aol.com
Editor's note. Sounds like you and I think alike. I would hate to admit
all of the jobs I had while I was going to college. I thought I was rich
if I had 4 tires on my car that held air. Anyone remember patching tubes
so they would hold air.
BOB
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: John Jameson, INTERNET:lmj@softnet.net
Re the question on why not fixed car prices. This is just my opinion. We
don't have fixed car prices because dealers make more money that way.
However with the large number of people using car buying services (Sams,
Costco, Auto Club, etc) I think car dealers may be living in the past.
With carsdirect.com, you can buy a new car and never talk to a dealer. It
seems like a great way to go.
John
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