TriChrome
03-07-2018, 01:26 AM
From: BOB FORD [BOB_FORD@compuserve.com]
Sent: November07¤é2002¦~Thursday 8:00 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
NOVEMBER 7, 2002
IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
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ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
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WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
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PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
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1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
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IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
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THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "Bob Ford", bob_ford
From: "Tom Meyers", INTERNET:tomjude1@itol.com
Hi,
I am in the process of restoring a 1957 Chev 2dr hdtp. I am looking for a
used trunk lid and both front fenders. All must be rust free. Small dents
are ok.
Tom Meyers
Algoma, WI 54201
Phone (920)487-2950
email-- tomjude1@itol.com
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To: "Chevy List", bob_ford
From: "mr55chev", INTERNET:mr55chev@attbi.com
Re: Music trivia for 11/05
In 1988, 22 years after the group last topped the U.S. singles
chart, the Beach Boys had a No. 1 hit with "Kokomo," from the
soundtrack of the motion picture "Cocktail."
on the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
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To: "'bob_ford@compuserve.com'", bob_ford
From: Lou Bartoletti, INTERNET:lbartoletti@acicommunications.com
FOR SALE: 55-57 Disc Brakes/Power Steering - 11" rotors/calipers with
stainless hoses on stock spindles with adaptor plates and large booster.
Front stabilizer bar and mounting brackets, 605 power steering box with
welded adaptor plate, rag joint, pitman arm, lowering springs, upper
control arms, short headers, etc.
Sell all for $975.00 or call about separate pricing. Lou 818-767-8555
Burbank, Ca.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
GOOD USED PARTS FOR SALE-- '55-'57 sedan headliner support rods $40set;
'55 left rear accessory bumper guard $20; '55 210 4dr rear door spears
$25pair; nice driver quality '56 right hoodbar extension $20; '55/'56
welded type steel wheel rims, blasted and powdercoated $150pair. '57 4dr
hardtop left rear quarter panel lower molding $30. Shipping is extra.
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Larry FULSOME, INTERNET:finsrn57@juno.com
Bob, Re: push button shift on automatic cars. My understanding of the
demise of the push button shift came when our beloved Uncle Sam decreed
that ALL automatic trans. cars HAD to have the same shift pattern .
Apparently those who made the law were unable to comprehend the shift
pattern of various designs and felt that their constituents were equally
impaired.
L E F
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:J56chev@aol.com, INTERNET:J56chev@aol.com
Chevrolet 1911-1985 - by the auto editors of Consumer Guide, printed patent
1,209,952 and claimed it was the patent drawing for the Chevrolet Bowtie.
This is incorrect, since this patent only covers the "means for securing
name
plates to the radiators of automobiles," even though a bowtie was used as
an
example. The Bowtie Trademark, Serial No. 73,204 was then printed in the
Official Gazette of the Patent Office on December 16, 1913. The Bowtie
Trademark was then registered on February 17, 1914 at the Patent Office
with
the number 95,398. It is interesting that the Bowtie logo was registered as
a
separate trademark from the Chevrolet name.
Jim London
J56chev@aol.com
El monte, California
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Runaway55@aol.com, INTERNET:Runaway55@aol.com
Hi all: I am looking for a good 3rd brake light setup to put on my '55
Chevy..I would like to try and get a unit like was offered for the '55
Chevy's a few years ago where the light was in the trunk emblem. I
understand
those have been discontinued but if anyone knows of a source or has one for
sale, please let me know. I would love to give my "Runaway" an extra safety
feature.
I would also like to say that I think the list that Bob provides is
great. It is interesting to read what folks have to say and I enjoy seeing
what is for sale. I am in the Nashville, Tenn. area and I did see the cars
at
the Bow Tie Show and they were all great.
Be kool and happy cruising..Mike aka Runaway runaway55@aol.com
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:Fifdee7@aol.com, INTERNET:Fifdee7@aol.com
Hi Bob and List Friends
This is to answer Nick Raebers' question about the origination of
the
Chevy Bow Tie. At a little after the turn of the century,around 1908 or so
William Durant started General Motors, however ,Chevrolet was not a part of
it yet. Mr. Durant was in the process of "hooking up" with a well known
french racer named Louis Chevrolet. He wanted him to design a car for him
to
introduce to the public. Since the Chevrolet name was already well known
because of his racing and also because Louis Chevrolet already had his own
ambitions to build a car of his own, it made for a perfect combo. This is
cutting the story very short,because I'm going from memory, but basicly
that
is how the two men got together. As far as the Bowtie logo
goes,...............it was actually copied from a pattern that was on the
wallpaper in a hotel room that Mr Durant had stayed in France, during one
of his stays there while getting the GM/Chevrolet deal together. It was
just
a design that caught his eye. It may sound kind of strange , but that is
how
the Bowtie and Chevrolet came together !!!!!!!
Bob Regian, Cheektowaga (Buffalo)
NY
PS . I have worked for General Motors for 32 years and am currently at
the
Powertrain, Tonawanda Engine Plant (Home of the BIG BLOCK ) and I was told
about this some time ago during some training seminars that I was attending
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Oliver Giorgi", INTERNET:o.giorgi@worldnet.att.net
Hello Bob,
A member of your great list posed a question....
To Bob and my friends on the list, I enjoy the trivia questions and the
responses. I have a question that many of us may find interesting and may
yield various different answers. Where did the Chevrolet bowtie emblem
originate and who was responsible for its adoption as one of the best known
logos of all time?
My response is the "bowtie" originated from a wallpaper pattern being used
in a French hotel bathroom. (circa 1911)
The design was lifted by Louis Chevrolet and became the logo of the brand.
The original color was blue, but over the years, it has changed from blue,
gold, and red.
Best regards,
oliver j. giorgi
moderator for www.chevytalk.com
aka bowtieollie
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com
This is a WARNING to anybody who has power windows. If your heater has
ever leaked or if your front carpets have ever gotten wet for any reason
there is a strong possibility that your wiring could be ready to cause a
fire.
The wiring harness for the power windows that runs under the front seat
and front carpet in my car has overheated and shorted out 3 wires because
of a corroded splice in the red 12v power wiring. The original wires are
covered with the old cloth black electricians tape and the cloth external
covering where the power wire was originally spliced and crimped. This
would have been alright except that water from a heater core leak got the
cloth tape and cloth insulation wet which cause the splice to corrode. The
corrosion caused the splice to overheat and mealt the rubber insulation on
the other wires in the same bundle. When I opened the bundle of wired
there was burnt and exposed wiring.
I have rewired the whole area and everything works fine now. I do
suggest the you open the wire bundle and check the splices. Contact me at
marty28447@aol.com and I will send you pictures to show the exact
location of the problem.
Kim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com, INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com
Your comment to the effect that "...given enough time and money, just about
any engine can be put in any chassis..." is indeed one that I can relate
to!
We have all seen cars where someone has shoe-horned a big block Chevy V8 in
a
Chevette, the once popular Caddy V8 in place of a Ford flathead or early
Studebaker V8, etc. Nowadays, the modification through installation of a
complete front frame clip onto an older rear section has resulted in a
whole
new genre of modified vehicles. And the more challenging the transplant,
the
more Dollars that will be expended!
But, two particular and notable "engine swaps" really stick out in my
memory
of high school days (for the record, I graduated HS in June of '62). The
first was a friend of mine who'd been saving his pennies from odd jobs et
al
so he could afford a car (and insurance on it) as soon as he got his
license
at 16. He even found a really decent-looking '54 Olds 88 2-door hardtop
with
the 4-speed Hydramatic. Whether the Olds wasn't used to the treatment that
he
soon gave it in showing off to the rest of us - or if he got overly
exuberant, I don't know. But he'd soon tossed a rod on the Olds - an engine
that was supposed to be near bulletproof! What to do? The Olds engine was
toast - and his finances were just about zero as a result of buying the
Olds
and paying for six months insurance coverage. Then, a bright idea. My
friends' grandfather had an old "bathtub" Nash ('51, I think) up at his
farm.
It too had a 4-speed Hydramatic! Well, Dan soon had about the only '54 Olds
in captivity with a Nash six! We always kidded him about his "hot" Olds -
but
the car was still running fine when we graduated two years later!
The other was a slightly more "normal" swap, but with a twist. Back East
(where I'm from on Long Island), imported cars such as VW's and all were
starting to become popular by the late 1950s. But some had even come in by
the early 1950s. Thus, an older buddy found about a '52 VW beetle (one of
those with the split back windows - I'm sure he wishes he still had it) and
bought it around 1959. It was barely running on two cylinders at the time.
His idea was simply to swap in a newer engine. Even a then-current 36HP
would
have been a significant upgrade in performance. Surprisingly though, he
found
a 1500cc engine from a Porsche that had been rolled! I helped him with the
transplant at age 15. This was truly a dangerous car! How we lived through
the experience is purely speculative. The VW was one of those with
mechanical, cable-actuated brakes. They'd sometimes even freeze "on" when
driving in the winter. But we were ready! Rolled-up newspapers were always
carried - so that we could light them and use to thaw things out!
Fortunately, we never ignited the car. Shifting was also an experience.
This
VW had no synchromesh on any of the gears. Since the brakes weren't such
that
they could be counted on, we both developed our double-clutching technique
very quickly (yes, I also drove it on the streets at age 15 without a
license, but fortunately never got caught).
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Roy Yost, INTERNET:radioroy@pacbell.net
Hi Bob,
Please post this ad to your list. Thank you.
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Radio Roys Auto radio rebuilding!
Located in Redwood City, CA, I've been rebuilding 1957 and older auto
radios since 1985. My workmanship is top notch and my prices are low. A
typical rebuild includes: new capacitors, new solid state vibrator,
check all tubes and replace as necessary, clean and lubricate push
button mechanisms, adjust , align, and test circuitry. Speakers are
reconed, if necessary, for an extra charge.
If the radio is clean and does not have significant rust, if the manual
tuning knob will run the dial pointer all the way to both ends, and if
no one has previously tried to repair the radio and FUBARd it up, a
TYPICAL rebuild price is $249. Reconed speakers are TYPICALLY an
additional $45. These estimates are subject to change upon inspection of
the actual radio.
NOTE: At this time, the shop is not set up to do FM conversions, or to
repair signal seeking radios.
Please call Radio Roy at 650-369-0890 or write to radioroy@pacbell.net
Thank you
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:OvalRace25@aol.com, INTERNET:OvalRace25@aol.com
I just CAN'T restrain myself from responding to a couple of messages...
First to Paul that wants to lower the rear of his 57. Paul, just put the
lowering blocks between the springs and housing, it will be just fine. No,
you will not need to change the shocks, they bolt to the lower spring plate
that you are not moving. The only geometry you have changed in the entire
car
by putting in the blocks is that you lowered the total center of gravity or
"roll center" this will greatly improve the cornering of your 57.
The next response is for Bob regarding engine swaps in our Chevys. Yep, I
have done some things I will admit to and some I will only say I heard
about... Since my first 57 Chevy came to me in 1965 I've had plenty of
years
to be involved in engine swaps. Olds, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, yep, EVEN
Chrysler! The things we do when we are kids! WOW! It was easy to throw big
cubic inches under the hood when we did not have the brains to know just
how
GOOD the small block was and still is! Anyone see the old car special on
the
cars in Cuba? You will find early Chevys with various diesel engines under
the hood over there. Just think, a 55 Nomad powered by an Izuzu Diesel!
That's it, I have said enough, I going to say good night to my Chevys all
with their wonderful smallblocks nestled snugly under the hoods and tuck
myself into bed.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:bryan1955@earthlink.net, INTERNET:bryan1955@earthlink.net
Hi Bob and fellow list members,
This is in response to Bill Kautz's note about insurance for the Lost
Bumpers. I hope the insurance company that paid to replace
the lost bumpers that was in the hands of the chrome shop, filled a claim
against the shops insurance company itself. Why on earth would they have
to pay for the re chrome if it was already prepaid and never
delivered. I guess this is why we all pay big bucks for insurance,
since companies don't have to be responsible for their actions, or lack
of...anymore. I also hope the party involved and his
insurance company were smart enough not to use the same chrome shop
again. I wish I knew who and where this chrome shop was, so I could
be sure and steer clear of them in the future.
Thanks again for the list BOB!
Bryan Condra
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Gary Howard", INTERNET:garysgearbox@dragonbbs.com
Bob, Talk about swapping engines. In 1957 while a sophomore, I helped a
friend
install a 1955 Buick Century Engine in a 1953 Mercury. When we went to the
junk yard to inquire about a motor this old guy there told us that the
Buick
engine was powerful, torquey and was more cammed up than any other motor at
the time. Boy was he right. I can't recall was wer did for a bellhousing,
but it was trickery. Boy was this car powerful. I'll never forget the odd
sound of that car , a 1953 Mercury with on overhead valve V-8 motor. We
could not keep a trans in it.
Thank, Bob
Gary Howard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CAPS4@aol.com, INTERNET:CAPS4@aol.com
Hi Bob and all Tri-Fivers,
Would someone please tell me what door edge guard is correct for the
1955 NOMAD. The "accessory passenger car installation reference manual"
lists three; a 987128, 987129 and a 987130. Thanks, Pete Cap
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com, INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com
For Paulie Canonoli - try Posies, Hummelstown, PA. His 2" lowered springs
work great on my '55 Sport Coupe. About $125.00 for the pair.
http://www.posiesrodsandcustoms.com/
Jim
Raeford, NC
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:sandyscott@peoplepc.com
From: INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com, INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com
For Sandy Scott regarding N.O.M. " Not Original Motor".
Jim
Raeford, NC
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "mr55chev", INTERNET:mr55chev@attbi.com
Bob - The story goes that the bowtie design was copied from the wallpaper
design that William C. Durant (the founder of GM & Chevrolet) saw in a
Paris
hotel.
For those who are asking about the wires to the starter, they are (1) a 6
gage black and a terminal containing a 12 gage tan and a 14 gage black
joined all attaching to the central (large) upper terminal. The terminal
at
it's right is the "S" terminal, and the 16 gage violet wire goes to it.
There is no wire (on 55-57 at least) to the left hand small terminal marked
"R" and in later applications it is used to deliver a full 12 volts to the
coil for starting, which on the 55-57 is doner in the keyswitch. In
addition, should the power seats and windows be installed, the power leads
for these two items went to the large central terminal, also. Colors and
sizes were refreshed by checking with my service manual (I don't have that
good a memory!)
Sandy Pierce (mr55chev@attbi.com)
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
The oldest surviving drive-in in the country is only about 45 minutes from
here just outside of Allentown PA. Haven't been there since the 80's.
Last year I went to another drive-in in the area with my girlfriend. This
coming summer I'm taking the '56. Heard a lot of stories from my dad about
that place in the '60s!
Wyatt
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Lenny,
Nope, sorry, but I don't have a pair of chrome hood hinges.
Wyatt
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: Charles Schneider, INTERNET:charles@Bollingerinsurance.com
Hi Bob; This is for Nick Raeber/ Grand Prairie TX. who asked "where did the
BowTie emblem come from"? The story goes that Mr. Louis Chevrolet was
visiting France and while in a Paris hotel he was especially taken with the
design on the room's wallpaper! You guessed it, the design was our own
"BowTie". He brought it back and made it his emblem for the Chevrolet
autos.
I guess they didn't copyright wallpaper back then!
Charlie Schneider, cmschneider1@att.net 55 Convertible AACA Grand
National,
58 3100 Fleetside P/U Modified
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:REBORN55@aol.com, INTERNET:REBORN55@aol.com
Thank you for the tape of drive in ads. Really very enjoyable. Anyone know
if the drizzle guards are still available. Would be quite a site at todays
drive ins. Thanks again.
Ken Springhorn
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:d56chevy@attbi.com, INTERNET:d56chevy@attbi.com
Hi Dave,
After the experience of several friends with classic
cars I'd suggest you let your insurance company find the
parts for you. One man had an old Hudson that was
nearly perfect and he took the bumpers to be rechromed.
The chrome shop "lost" the bumpers! He didn't know
what to do until someone suggested his classic car
insurance company. They found a set for him within a
week and also paid the re-chroming fee since
he's already pre-paid for the work.
Another friend was t-boned in his '61 Impala on his
way home from a Late Great Chevy show. His car was
totaled. His insurance picked up the cost of
a replacement car for him. I guess that's why we pay for
insurance, isn't it? Hope this helps! Wild
Bill
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Hi Bill- want to let others know on this wonderful list
of Bob's why we HAVE classic car insurance.
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A few years back (2 I believe) I managed to drive my car
into a stone wall while trying to time it.(THAT is a
whole other story)
It had been repainted and re done for a total of 15
minutes before the accident..... :(
Anyway, when I passed the accident info along to my
REGULAR car insurance co (Metropolitan ) they sent an
adjuster out who had NO classic experience. He even told
my wife he had just done an appraisal on a bus!
SHE had to show him where and what the parts were that
were damaged.AND what they were called.
To make a long story short- they tried to total my car
out for $3500 damage (and for those of you who have seen
the car in pictures, its NOT in that state- the damage
was only to the drivers side chrome and wheel well area)
and then when I provided them with places to get parts
(which of course HAD to be show quality as they are
supposed to replace to 'like' condition) they told me
the part prices were outrageous AND that they wouldn't
pay 40 hours for the hand drawn custom painted flames on
the car as 'they couldn't have possibly taken that long"
LOL!!!
Need less to say I now have Grundy and LOVE THEM TO
BITS>....
roll call!
--
Lenny Schaeffer
Burlington MA
D56chevy@attbi.com
56 chevy belair sedan- modified with a 468 Big Block
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Gary Hurley", INTERNET:Gary_Hurley@firstclass1.csubak.edu
Very true Bob, That holds for just about every project I have
attempted..both home and car. Anything is possible when you throw enough
money at it!!
Gary
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com, INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com
Bob,
Last week, someone was looking for an intake manifold with an oil filler
tube. Below is a link to a nice one I am selling on Ebay.
- Warren
<A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871615
059
&rd=1">Holley Manifold</A>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com, INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com
Bob, I posed the question about the origin of the Chevrolet logo
commonly known as the bowtie. I read a brief story a few years ago in a GM
Plant newsletter. The story recounted that Louis Chevrolet saw the insignia
within the wallpaper pattern of a hotel in Paris, France. Apparently he
liked
it well enough to adopt it as his companys logo. I hope someone out there
agrees with me because that's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Nick 1955
sedanman
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To: Bob Ford, bob_ford
From: Paul Dickerson, INTERNET:pdcnui@cs.com
I am sure I am not the only list member that belongs to more than one car
list but your list is far and away the best.
D
oes anyone know of another car list that gives more service to its membes
than Bobs list?
PAUL
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end of 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST
BOB FORD
18091 MARK CIRCLE
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VOICE 714-637-8877
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I plan to live forever, so far so good
Sent: November07¤é2002¦~Thursday 8:00 PM
To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com
Subject: 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTL
THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR
NOVEMBER 7, 2002
IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS E-MAIL.
THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
TO POST SOMETHING ON THIS LIST PLEASE E-MAIL YOUR POST TO
BOB_FORD@COMPUSERVE.COM
THERE IS NO COST TO BECOME A LIST MEMBER AND ONLY LIST MEMBERS ARE
ALLOWED TO POST SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
THIS 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST IS NOT SENT OUT ON ANY SET SCHEDULE SO IF YOU
WANT TO POST SOMETHING THAT CONTAINS A DATE, PLEASE SEND IT IN EARLY
SO I CAN GET IT OUT TO THE LIST MEMBERS BEFORE THE DATE OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR CITY AND STATE WITH YOUR POSTS. IF YOU ARE
POSTING SOMETHING FOR SALE PLEASE ALSO INCLUDE
1. YOUR PHONE NUMBER
2 THE PRICE
3. WHEN YOU WILL BE AT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR TIME ZONE.
TAKE AS MUCH SPACE AS YOU WANT AND FULLY DESCRIBE WHAT YOU HAVE
FOR SALE OR WANT TO BUY.
YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS LIST ARE WELCOME.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME E-MAIL THAT YOU DO NOT WANT ON THE LIST
PLEASE PUT "PRIVATE NOT FOR THE LIST' AS THE SUBJECT.
THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS LIST ARE THE MEMBERS OPINIONS AND NOT
NECESSARILY MINE. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EDIT OUT ANY MATERIAL NOT
APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LIST.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME AS THE LAST THING ON YOUR E-MAIL.
IF YOU BUY SOMETHING FROM A LIST MEMBER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I HAVE
NO WAY OF KNOWING THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT OR THE HONESTY OF THE
SELLER. BUYER BEWARE.
BECAUSE OF THE DANGER OF A VIRUS, PLEASE DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS
WITH YOUR E-MAIL. E-MAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS WILL NOT BE READ.
THANKS
BOB FORD
EDITOR
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To: "Bob Ford", bob_ford
From: "Tom Meyers", INTERNET:tomjude1@itol.com
Hi,
I am in the process of restoring a 1957 Chev 2dr hdtp. I am looking for a
used trunk lid and both front fenders. All must be rust free. Small dents
are ok.
Tom Meyers
Algoma, WI 54201
Phone (920)487-2950
email-- tomjude1@itol.com
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To: "Chevy List", bob_ford
From: "mr55chev", INTERNET:mr55chev@attbi.com
Re: Music trivia for 11/05
In 1988, 22 years after the group last topped the U.S. singles
chart, the Beach Boys had a No. 1 hit with "Kokomo," from the
soundtrack of the motion picture "Cocktail."
on the 8th day HE created the 55 Chevrolet
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To: "'bob_ford@compuserve.com'", bob_ford
From: Lou Bartoletti, INTERNET:lbartoletti@acicommunications.com
FOR SALE: 55-57 Disc Brakes/Power Steering - 11" rotors/calipers with
stainless hoses on stock spindles with adaptor plates and large booster.
Front stabilizer bar and mounting brackets, 605 power steering box with
welded adaptor plate, rag joint, pitman arm, lowering springs, upper
control arms, short headers, etc.
Sell all for $975.00 or call about separate pricing. Lou 818-767-8555
Burbank, Ca.
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
GOOD USED PARTS FOR SALE-- '55-'57 sedan headliner support rods $40set;
'55 left rear accessory bumper guard $20; '55 210 4dr rear door spears
$25pair; nice driver quality '56 right hoodbar extension $20; '55/'56
welded type steel wheel rims, blasted and powdercoated $150pair. '57 4dr
hardtop left rear quarter panel lower molding $30. Shipping is extra.
Wyatt Smolick
Fleetwood, PA
WSSmolick@aol.com
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: Larry FULSOME, INTERNET:finsrn57@juno.com
Bob, Re: push button shift on automatic cars. My understanding of the
demise of the push button shift came when our beloved Uncle Sam decreed
that ALL automatic trans. cars HAD to have the same shift pattern .
Apparently those who made the law were unable to comprehend the shift
pattern of various designs and felt that their constituents were equally
impaired.
L E F
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:J56chev@aol.com, INTERNET:J56chev@aol.com
Chevrolet 1911-1985 - by the auto editors of Consumer Guide, printed patent
1,209,952 and claimed it was the patent drawing for the Chevrolet Bowtie.
This is incorrect, since this patent only covers the "means for securing
name
plates to the radiators of automobiles," even though a bowtie was used as
an
example. The Bowtie Trademark, Serial No. 73,204 was then printed in the
Official Gazette of the Patent Office on December 16, 1913. The Bowtie
Trademark was then registered on February 17, 1914 at the Patent Office
with
the number 95,398. It is interesting that the Bowtie logo was registered as
a
separate trademark from the Chevrolet name.
Jim London
J56chev@aol.com
El monte, California
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Runaway55@aol.com, INTERNET:Runaway55@aol.com
Hi all: I am looking for a good 3rd brake light setup to put on my '55
Chevy..I would like to try and get a unit like was offered for the '55
Chevy's a few years ago where the light was in the trunk emblem. I
understand
those have been discontinued but if anyone knows of a source or has one for
sale, please let me know. I would love to give my "Runaway" an extra safety
feature.
I would also like to say that I think the list that Bob provides is
great. It is interesting to read what folks have to say and I enjoy seeing
what is for sale. I am in the Nashville, Tenn. area and I did see the cars
at
the Bow Tie Show and they were all great.
Be kool and happy cruising..Mike aka Runaway runaway55@aol.com
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To: [unknown], bob_ford
From: INTERNET:Fifdee7@aol.com, INTERNET:Fifdee7@aol.com
Hi Bob and List Friends
This is to answer Nick Raebers' question about the origination of
the
Chevy Bow Tie. At a little after the turn of the century,around 1908 or so
William Durant started General Motors, however ,Chevrolet was not a part of
it yet. Mr. Durant was in the process of "hooking up" with a well known
french racer named Louis Chevrolet. He wanted him to design a car for him
to
introduce to the public. Since the Chevrolet name was already well known
because of his racing and also because Louis Chevrolet already had his own
ambitions to build a car of his own, it made for a perfect combo. This is
cutting the story very short,because I'm going from memory, but basicly
that
is how the two men got together. As far as the Bowtie logo
goes,...............it was actually copied from a pattern that was on the
wallpaper in a hotel room that Mr Durant had stayed in France, during one
of his stays there while getting the GM/Chevrolet deal together. It was
just
a design that caught his eye. It may sound kind of strange , but that is
how
the Bowtie and Chevrolet came together !!!!!!!
Bob Regian, Cheektowaga (Buffalo)
NY
PS . I have worked for General Motors for 32 years and am currently at
the
Powertrain, Tonawanda Engine Plant (Home of the BIG BLOCK ) and I was told
about this some time ago during some training seminars that I was attending
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Oliver Giorgi", INTERNET:o.giorgi@worldnet.att.net
Hello Bob,
A member of your great list posed a question....
To Bob and my friends on the list, I enjoy the trivia questions and the
responses. I have a question that many of us may find interesting and may
yield various different answers. Where did the Chevrolet bowtie emblem
originate and who was responsible for its adoption as one of the best known
logos of all time?
My response is the "bowtie" originated from a wallpaper pattern being used
in a French hotel bathroom. (circa 1911)
The design was lifted by Louis Chevrolet and became the logo of the brand.
The original color was blue, but over the years, it has changed from blue,
gold, and red.
Best regards,
oliver j. giorgi
moderator for www.chevytalk.com
aka bowtieollie
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com,
INTERNET:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com
This is a WARNING to anybody who has power windows. If your heater has
ever leaked or if your front carpets have ever gotten wet for any reason
there is a strong possibility that your wiring could be ready to cause a
fire.
The wiring harness for the power windows that runs under the front seat
and front carpet in my car has overheated and shorted out 3 wires because
of a corroded splice in the red 12v power wiring. The original wires are
covered with the old cloth black electricians tape and the cloth external
covering where the power wire was originally spliced and crimped. This
would have been alright except that water from a heater core leak got the
cloth tape and cloth insulation wet which cause the splice to corrode. The
corrosion caused the splice to overheat and mealt the rubber insulation on
the other wires in the same bundle. When I opened the bundle of wired
there was burnt and exposed wiring.
I have rewired the whole area and everything works fine now. I do
suggest the you open the wire bundle and check the splices. Contact me at
marty28447@aol.com and I will send you pictures to show the exact
location of the problem.
Kim
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com, INTERNET:Nagel101044@aol.com
Your comment to the effect that "...given enough time and money, just about
any engine can be put in any chassis..." is indeed one that I can relate
to!
We have all seen cars where someone has shoe-horned a big block Chevy V8 in
a
Chevette, the once popular Caddy V8 in place of a Ford flathead or early
Studebaker V8, etc. Nowadays, the modification through installation of a
complete front frame clip onto an older rear section has resulted in a
whole
new genre of modified vehicles. And the more challenging the transplant,
the
more Dollars that will be expended!
But, two particular and notable "engine swaps" really stick out in my
memory
of high school days (for the record, I graduated HS in June of '62). The
first was a friend of mine who'd been saving his pennies from odd jobs et
al
so he could afford a car (and insurance on it) as soon as he got his
license
at 16. He even found a really decent-looking '54 Olds 88 2-door hardtop
with
the 4-speed Hydramatic. Whether the Olds wasn't used to the treatment that
he
soon gave it in showing off to the rest of us - or if he got overly
exuberant, I don't know. But he'd soon tossed a rod on the Olds - an engine
that was supposed to be near bulletproof! What to do? The Olds engine was
toast - and his finances were just about zero as a result of buying the
Olds
and paying for six months insurance coverage. Then, a bright idea. My
friends' grandfather had an old "bathtub" Nash ('51, I think) up at his
farm.
It too had a 4-speed Hydramatic! Well, Dan soon had about the only '54 Olds
in captivity with a Nash six! We always kidded him about his "hot" Olds -
but
the car was still running fine when we graduated two years later!
The other was a slightly more "normal" swap, but with a twist. Back East
(where I'm from on Long Island), imported cars such as VW's and all were
starting to become popular by the late 1950s. But some had even come in by
the early 1950s. Thus, an older buddy found about a '52 VW beetle (one of
those with the split back windows - I'm sure he wishes he still had it) and
bought it around 1959. It was barely running on two cylinders at the time.
His idea was simply to swap in a newer engine. Even a then-current 36HP
would
have been a significant upgrade in performance. Surprisingly though, he
found
a 1500cc engine from a Porsche that had been rolled! I helped him with the
transplant at age 15. This was truly a dangerous car! How we lived through
the experience is purely speculative. The VW was one of those with
mechanical, cable-actuated brakes. They'd sometimes even freeze "on" when
driving in the winter. But we were ready! Rolled-up newspapers were always
carried - so that we could light them and use to thaw things out!
Fortunately, we never ignited the car. Shifting was also an experience.
This
VW had no synchromesh on any of the gears. Since the brakes weren't such
that
they could be counted on, we both developed our double-clutching technique
very quickly (yes, I also drove it on the streets at age 15 without a
license, but fortunately never got caught).
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: Roy Yost, INTERNET:radioroy@pacbell.net
Hi Bob,
Please post this ad to your list. Thank you.
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Radio Roys Auto radio rebuilding!
Located in Redwood City, CA, I've been rebuilding 1957 and older auto
radios since 1985. My workmanship is top notch and my prices are low. A
typical rebuild includes: new capacitors, new solid state vibrator,
check all tubes and replace as necessary, clean and lubricate push
button mechanisms, adjust , align, and test circuitry. Speakers are
reconed, if necessary, for an extra charge.
If the radio is clean and does not have significant rust, if the manual
tuning knob will run the dial pointer all the way to both ends, and if
no one has previously tried to repair the radio and FUBARd it up, a
TYPICAL rebuild price is $249. Reconed speakers are TYPICALLY an
additional $45. These estimates are subject to change upon inspection of
the actual radio.
NOTE: At this time, the shop is not set up to do FM conversions, or to
repair signal seeking radios.
Please call Radio Roy at 650-369-0890 or write to radioroy@pacbell.net
Thank you
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:OvalRace25@aol.com, INTERNET:OvalRace25@aol.com
I just CAN'T restrain myself from responding to a couple of messages...
First to Paul that wants to lower the rear of his 57. Paul, just put the
lowering blocks between the springs and housing, it will be just fine. No,
you will not need to change the shocks, they bolt to the lower spring plate
that you are not moving. The only geometry you have changed in the entire
car
by putting in the blocks is that you lowered the total center of gravity or
"roll center" this will greatly improve the cornering of your 57.
The next response is for Bob regarding engine swaps in our Chevys. Yep, I
have done some things I will admit to and some I will only say I heard
about... Since my first 57 Chevy came to me in 1965 I've had plenty of
years
to be involved in engine swaps. Olds, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, yep, EVEN
Chrysler! The things we do when we are kids! WOW! It was easy to throw big
cubic inches under the hood when we did not have the brains to know just
how
GOOD the small block was and still is! Anyone see the old car special on
the
cars in Cuba? You will find early Chevys with various diesel engines under
the hood over there. Just think, a 55 Nomad powered by an Izuzu Diesel!
That's it, I have said enough, I going to say good night to my Chevys all
with their wonderful smallblocks nestled snugly under the hoods and tuck
myself into bed.
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:bryan1955@earthlink.net, INTERNET:bryan1955@earthlink.net
Hi Bob and fellow list members,
This is in response to Bill Kautz's note about insurance for the Lost
Bumpers. I hope the insurance company that paid to replace
the lost bumpers that was in the hands of the chrome shop, filled a claim
against the shops insurance company itself. Why on earth would they have
to pay for the re chrome if it was already prepaid and never
delivered. I guess this is why we all pay big bucks for insurance,
since companies don't have to be responsible for their actions, or lack
of...anymore. I also hope the party involved and his
insurance company were smart enough not to use the same chrome shop
again. I wish I knew who and where this chrome shop was, so I could
be sure and steer clear of them in the future.
Thanks again for the list BOB!
Bryan Condra
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "Gary Howard", INTERNET:garysgearbox@dragonbbs.com
Bob, Talk about swapping engines. In 1957 while a sophomore, I helped a
friend
install a 1955 Buick Century Engine in a 1953 Mercury. When we went to the
junk yard to inquire about a motor this old guy there told us that the
Buick
engine was powerful, torquey and was more cammed up than any other motor at
the time. Boy was he right. I can't recall was wer did for a bellhousing,
but it was trickery. Boy was this car powerful. I'll never forget the odd
sound of that car , a 1953 Mercury with on overhead valve V-8 motor. We
could not keep a trans in it.
Thank, Bob
Gary Howard
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:CAPS4@aol.com, INTERNET:CAPS4@aol.com
Hi Bob and all Tri-Fivers,
Would someone please tell me what door edge guard is correct for the
1955 NOMAD. The "accessory passenger car installation reference manual"
lists three; a 987128, 987129 and a 987130. Thanks, Pete Cap
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com, INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com
For Paulie Canonoli - try Posies, Hummelstown, PA. His 2" lowered springs
work great on my '55 Sport Coupe. About $125.00 for the pair.
http://www.posiesrodsandcustoms.com/
Jim
Raeford, NC
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
CC: [unknown], INTERNET:sandyscott@peoplepc.com
From: INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com, INTERNET:JKOCONNOR@aol.com
For Sandy Scott regarding N.O.M. " Not Original Motor".
Jim
Raeford, NC
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To: "BOB FORD", BOB_FORD
From: "mr55chev", INTERNET:mr55chev@attbi.com
Bob - The story goes that the bowtie design was copied from the wallpaper
design that William C. Durant (the founder of GM & Chevrolet) saw in a
Paris
hotel.
For those who are asking about the wires to the starter, they are (1) a 6
gage black and a terminal containing a 12 gage tan and a 14 gage black
joined all attaching to the central (large) upper terminal. The terminal
at
it's right is the "S" terminal, and the 16 gage violet wire goes to it.
There is no wire (on 55-57 at least) to the left hand small terminal marked
"R" and in later applications it is used to deliver a full 12 volts to the
coil for starting, which on the 55-57 is doner in the keyswitch. In
addition, should the power seats and windows be installed, the power leads
for these two items went to the large central terminal, also. Colors and
sizes were refreshed by checking with my service manual (I don't have that
good a memory!)
Sandy Pierce (mr55chev@attbi.com)
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
The oldest surviving drive-in in the country is only about 45 minutes from
here just outside of Allentown PA. Haven't been there since the 80's.
Last year I went to another drive-in in the area with my girlfriend. This
coming summer I'm taking the '56. Heard a lot of stories from my dad about
that place in the '60s!
Wyatt
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com, INTERNET:WSSmolick@aol.com
Lenny,
Nope, sorry, but I don't have a pair of chrome hood hinges.
Wyatt
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To: "'BOB FORD'", BOB_FORD
From: Charles Schneider, INTERNET:charles@Bollingerinsurance.com
Hi Bob; This is for Nick Raeber/ Grand Prairie TX. who asked "where did the
BowTie emblem come from"? The story goes that Mr. Louis Chevrolet was
visiting France and while in a Paris hotel he was especially taken with the
design on the room's wallpaper! You guessed it, the design was our own
"BowTie". He brought it back and made it his emblem for the Chevrolet
autos.
I guess they didn't copyright wallpaper back then!
Charlie Schneider, cmschneider1@att.net 55 Convertible AACA Grand
National,
58 3100 Fleetside P/U Modified
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:REBORN55@aol.com, INTERNET:REBORN55@aol.com
Thank you for the tape of drive in ads. Really very enjoyable. Anyone know
if the drizzle guards are still available. Would be quite a site at todays
drive ins. Thanks again.
Ken Springhorn
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To: BOB FORD, BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:d56chevy@attbi.com, INTERNET:d56chevy@attbi.com
Hi Dave,
After the experience of several friends with classic
cars I'd suggest you let your insurance company find the
parts for you. One man had an old Hudson that was
nearly perfect and he took the bumpers to be rechromed.
The chrome shop "lost" the bumpers! He didn't know
what to do until someone suggested his classic car
insurance company. They found a set for him within a
week and also paid the re-chroming fee since
he's already pre-paid for the work.
Another friend was t-boned in his '61 Impala on his
way home from a Late Great Chevy show. His car was
totaled. His insurance picked up the cost of
a replacement car for him. I guess that's why we pay for
insurance, isn't it? Hope this helps! Wild
Bill
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Hi Bill- want to let others know on this wonderful list
of Bob's why we HAVE classic car insurance.
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A few years back (2 I believe) I managed to drive my car
into a stone wall while trying to time it.(THAT is a
whole other story)
It had been repainted and re done for a total of 15
minutes before the accident..... :(
Anyway, when I passed the accident info along to my
REGULAR car insurance co (Metropolitan ) they sent an
adjuster out who had NO classic experience. He even told
my wife he had just done an appraisal on a bus!
SHE had to show him where and what the parts were that
were damaged.AND what they were called.
To make a long story short- they tried to total my car
out for $3500 damage (and for those of you who have seen
the car in pictures, its NOT in that state- the damage
was only to the drivers side chrome and wheel well area)
and then when I provided them with places to get parts
(which of course HAD to be show quality as they are
supposed to replace to 'like' condition) they told me
the part prices were outrageous AND that they wouldn't
pay 40 hours for the hand drawn custom painted flames on
the car as 'they couldn't have possibly taken that long"
LOL!!!
Need less to say I now have Grundy and LOVE THEM TO
BITS>....
roll call!
--
Lenny Schaeffer
Burlington MA
D56chevy@attbi.com
56 chevy belair sedan- modified with a 468 Big Block
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: "Gary Hurley", INTERNET:Gary_Hurley@firstclass1.csubak.edu
Very true Bob, That holds for just about every project I have
attempted..both home and car. Anything is possible when you throw enough
money at it!!
Gary
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com, INTERNET:NomadMan55@aol.com
Bob,
Last week, someone was looking for an intake manifold with an oil filler
tube. Below is a link to a nice one I am selling on Ebay.
- Warren
<A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1871615
059
&rd=1">Holley Manifold</A>
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To: [unknown], BOB_FORD
From: INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com, INTERNET:Raeber57@aol.com
Bob, I posed the question about the origin of the Chevrolet logo
commonly known as the bowtie. I read a brief story a few years ago in a GM
Plant newsletter. The story recounted that Louis Chevrolet saw the insignia
within the wallpaper pattern of a hotel in Paris, France. Apparently he
liked
it well enough to adopt it as his companys logo. I hope someone out there
agrees with me because that's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Nick 1955
sedanman
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To: Bob Ford, bob_ford
From: Paul Dickerson, INTERNET:pdcnui@cs.com
I am sure I am not the only list member that belongs to more than one car
list but your list is far and away the best.
D
oes anyone know of another car list that gives more service to its membes
than Bobs list?
PAUL
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