Automatic and rear-end ratio

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Bakins
    Registered Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 118
    • 229
    • West Georgia

    #1

    Automatic and rear-end ratio

    My left knee continue to get worse. For that and a few other reasons, I'm thinking I may change my plans and just use an automatic in the '57. Not 100% decided, just weighing my options. I'm still planning on using an LS3. If I go automatic, I'm thinking a 4l85E. It may be overkill, but the 60/65/75 seem to get labeled as "weak" and I'd rather overkill it to start with.

    The gear ratios on a 4l85e are: 1st 2.482, 2nd 1.482, 3rd 1.000, 4th 0.750. I've got a 3.45 rear-end (Dana 44). I'm thinking I'd want to swap out the rear-gears to something like a 3.75 or a 4.11 if I decide to swap. I'll be running tires about 27" in diameter on the rear.

    Thoughts?

    Also, I've been doing reading about making a clutch "easier" for folks like me.

    I actually have some time to work on the car. I'm so behind, but stuff happens....
    bakins
    1957 Bel Air Hardtop
    C4 Suspension
  • 56-210Sedan
    Registered Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 837
    • 230
    • Spokane, Washington

    #2
    Bruce/Tunned 55 used the 4.11s in his dana 44 rear and had good thing to say about that choice.
    55 Belair 2dr Sedan 350/350 loving every minute of it.
    56-210 2dr Sedan c4 front/rear suspension, and not sure when the ride will roll.
    Marty

    http://www.picturetrail.com/56-210sedan

    http://saccc567.com/

    Comment

    • chevynut
      Registered Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 11133
      • 115
      • Fort Collins, CO

      #3
      Bruce is using a T56 manual (with a .5 6th gear), so that's a different story. The 4.10 Viper gears is what I plan to use in my Nomad too, with my T-56.

      Personally I think the 3.45 gears would be near-perfect for an automatic with the 2.48 first gear and .75 4th gear. Automatics with the torque converter seem to work well with higher gearing than a manual tranny. In any case, I'd go ahead and try them and decide later if you want to change. You can drop the pumpkin out easily and change the gears, without even dropping the batwing if you don't want to.

      The 3.45 gears will have your engine turning at 2415 RPM or slightly higher (depending on rolling radius) so personally I wouldn't go with any lower gearing. I'd prefer to have lower highway RPM.
      56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension


      Other vehicles:

      56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
      56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
      57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
      1962 327/340HP Corvette
      1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
      2001 Porsche Boxster S
      2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
      2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax

      Comment

      • chevynut
        Registered Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 11133
        • 115
        • Fort Collins, CO

        #4
        Besides, you have more important stuff to work on right now.
        56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension


        Other vehicles:

        56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
        56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
        57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
        1962 327/340HP Corvette
        1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
        2001 Porsche Boxster S
        2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
        2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax

        Comment

        • markm
          Registered Member
          • May 2012
          • 3481
          • 625

          #5
          I run a 1957 Olds 9.3 rear end with 3.42 gears and a 700R4 in my 56 and it appears to be about perfect.

          Comment

          • Rick_L
            Registered Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 4677
            • 571

            #6
            What's perfect to one might be no so good for others. The 3.45 seems a good middle of the road choice. Higher numeric for more performance, lower numeric for more mileage/quietness. I think the combo could run fine on anything from a 2.9 to a 4.1
            Last edited by Rick_L; 11-21-2012, 03:54 PM.

            Comment

            • c57heaven
              Registered Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 82
              • 328
              • North East Ohio

              #7
              wonder why the overdrive is .75 A 700r4 is .70 and a 200r is .67?

              Comment

              • Bakins
                Registered Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 118
                • 229
                • West Georgia

                #8
                Originally posted by chevynut
                Besides, you have more important stuff to work on right now.
                Well, with work/family commitments, I mostly only have time to think and dream about the '57. I think that gets me into more trouble than actually working on the car as I keep coming up with more and more ideas... After the holidays, I should have weekends freed up finally.
                bakins
                1957 Bel Air Hardtop
                C4 Suspension

                Comment

                • Bakins
                  Registered Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 118
                  • 229
                  • West Georgia

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chevynut
                  Personally I think the 3.45 gears would be near-perfect for an automatic with the 2.48 first gear and .75 4th gear. Automatics with the torque converter seem to work well with higher gearing than a manual tranny. In any case, I'd go ahead and try them and decide later if you want to change.
                  Thanks for the advice. Seems like a good way to go.
                  bakins
                  1957 Bel Air Hardtop
                  C4 Suspension

                  Comment

                  Working...