A Brief History Of Sealed Beam Headlamps In The U.S.

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  • markm
    Registered Member
    • May 2012
    • 3471

    #16
    Originally posted by kbuhagiar
    After 5 years of lurking...my first post!

    I think I fall somewhere in the middle of this discussion...

    I agree that modern styled replacement headlamps may look out of place on a TriFive; however, I am all for any upgrade or modification that increases headlight output and improves the nighttime driving experience. All of my older hobby cars have been upgraded with better headlights (Cibie, Hella) and relays. That being said, I will be upgrading the headlights on my 56 One-Fifty soon, and will definitely look into LED replacements, as I like the idea of NOT having to install headlight relays. The challenge will be to find high-output LED headlamps that are plug & play, but don't look too 'blingy' or out of place.
    Let us Know what you find. I started running Halogen bulbs in older vehicle's in the 80s. They were an upgrade plug & play that was not " blingy".

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    • 55 Rescue Dog
      Registered Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 1426

      #17
      I've had many vehicles with sealed beams, and when well aimed, you could see everything 1/4 mile+ down the road going 70+ at night. especially with the high beams. The old foot operated headlight dimmer switch was still the best setup too. I never have liked the using the turn signal lever, except for flashing the lights.

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      • markm
        Registered Member
        • May 2012
        • 3471

        #18
        Hands down the foot operated dimmer was the best setup.

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        • scorpion1110
          Registered Member
          • Jul 2017
          • 370

          #19
          Originally posted by chevynut
          Sure they would look out of place on an "old school" tri5 with 15" Cragar wheels and balloon tires, sitting at stock height with an obsolete carburetor sticking out of the hood. But on a modern, low stance, pro-touring style build with big wheels I think they would look great. I love the front end of that Camaro in the pics above, and the headlights complement the look. They give a hint of more cool stuff underneath. Good thing we don't all like the same things or we would have never gotten out of the 60's.
          CN always bashing the non-FI folks whenever you can

          Well I read your post, thought about it, declared myself obsolete and just sold my 55 to a millennial. He is going to turn it into a tiny house.

          Scorp

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          • kbuhagiar
            Registered Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 19

            #20
            Originally posted by markm
            Let us Know what you find. I started running Halogen bulbs in older vehicle's in the 80s. They were an upgrade plug & play that was not " blingy".
            I agree that halogens are a potential upgrade, but I have not had good luck with them; the ones I tried (Sylvanias) weren't appreciably brighter, and seemed to burn out rather quickly. After I tried the Cibies or Hellas with the replaceable elements I was hooked, and using the 55/100 watt elements gives the best low/high beam combination.
            Cheers!

            Ken in SSF
            56 One-Fifty Two-Door Sedan

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            • kbuhagiar
              Registered Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 19

              #21
              Originally posted by 55 Rescue Dog
              I've had many vehicles with sealed beams, and when well aimed, you could see everything 1/4 mile+ down the road going 70+ at night. especially with the high beams. The old foot operated headlight dimmer switch was still the best setup too. I never have liked the using the turn signal lever, except for flashing the lights.
              Completely agree on the foot dimmer being the best setup.

              I was perfectly satisfied with conventional sealed beam headlights until I bought a newer used vehicle with HID headlights. We live in a rural location, and the brighter light really made a difference at night on our dark local two-lane roads. Since then I have made it a priority to upgrade the headlights on any of my older hobby cars.
              Cheers!

              Ken in SSF
              56 One-Fifty Two-Door Sedan

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              • BCPrez
                Registered Member
                • Aug 2018
                • 27

                #22
                I too like the looks of the older sealed beam headlights on classics but, with that said I want to best lighting available and if that means a don't get that perfect classic look so be it. Seems these days we have more cars coming at us with the newer brighter lights and sometimes I feel my vision is impaired after one of them pass by.

                Here's what just arrived for me yesterday and will be going in my 56 very soon. https://www.dapperlighting.com/colle...ssic-projector

                Dapper Lighting.JPG

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                • BCPrez
                  Registered Member
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 27

                  #23
                  Opps, I attached the wrong link and photo. Here's what I just received and will put in my 56. No headlight bucket modifications required.

                  Dapper Lighting headlight kits embody the classic look while substantially upgrading the quality and spread of light.


                  Dapper Lighting Seven.JPG

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                  • Nomad_57
                    Registered Member
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 1

                    #24
                    I would like to have my cake and eat it too. I want the T-3 look, only new LED's so these old eyes could see at night.

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                    • markm
                      Registered Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 3471

                      #25
                      I read somewhere that Holley had something stock appearing but they were reported to be in the $400.00 range.
                      Last edited by markm; 01-13-2023, 08:38 AM.

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                      • 55 Rescue Dog
                        Registered Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 1426

                        #26
                        I love the old look incandescent glow of sealed beams that works fine when aimed correctly that I have used forever, plus I avoid driving my 55 at night anyway on dark highways. Risky enough even with the brightest lights in an old car looking out for a deer, etc.

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                        • chevynut
                          Registered Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11012

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Nomad_57
                          I would like to have my cake and eat it too. I want the T-3 look, only new LED's so these old eyes could see at night.
                          Learn how to convert your T3 headlights to H4 sealed beams on a '58 Imapala Sport Coupe so that you can let there be better light - Rod & Custom Magazine


                          You can even put T4 LEDs in it. I wonder why nobody's offering these for sale. Any modern upgrade is better than the stock junk, especially with the small wires they used. If I'm going to be driving at night I sure as hell want something better than a T3.

                          Here's the Holley RetroBrite LEDs... $200 each.

                          Free Shipping - Holley RetroBright LED Headlights with qualifying orders of $109. Shop Sealed Beam Headlight Conversions at Summit Racing.
                          Last edited by chevynut; 01-12-2023, 07:07 PM.
                          56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension


                          Other vehicles:

                          56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
                          56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
                          57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
                          1962 327/340HP Corvette
                          1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
                          2001 Porsche Boxster S
                          2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
                          2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax

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                          • 55 Rescue Dog
                            Registered Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 1426

                            #28
                            I've been driving my 55 for 2 years now and have never needed the headlights. I run them in some conditions, and they look like daytime running lights. Also have the white parking lights wired to come on with the headlights so it's easily seen. Or sometimes just the parking lights which I've have done since I was a kid.

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                            • chevynut
                              Registered Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11012

                              #29
                              Originally posted by 55 Rescue Dog
                              I've been driving my 55 for 2 years now and have never needed the headlights.
                              Yeah, like seatbelts and helmets, you never need them until you need them.

                              Modern headlights are WAY better than the obsolete stock sealed beam incandescents. Even halogens are much better and I like to see at night.

                              I plan to run LEDs with halos, using the halos as DRLs that come on when the ignition is on. Haven't picked the headlights yet. I bought some Hella E-code housings years ago but probably won't use them.
                              56 Nomad, Ramjet 502, Viper 6-speed T56, C4 Corvette front and rear suspension


                              Other vehicles:

                              56 Chevy 2-door BelAir sedan
                              56 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
                              57 Chevy 210 4-door sedan
                              1962 327/340HP Corvette
                              1961 Willys CJ3B Jeep
                              2001 Porsche Boxster S
                              2003 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD Duramax
                              2019 GMC Sierra Denali Duramax

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                              • 55 Rescue Dog
                                Registered Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 1426

                                #30
                                I have seatbelts that are 5-point camlocks and have worn my new Snell rated helmet when autocrossing. Also have a S&W rollbar, and a race spec Willwood safety steering column and I don't drive at night in that car on the highway driving in the rain. Plus, I don't have wipers, and halo lights would look like I would be trying too hard to look cool...
                                My halogens cost $28 for the pair and work great.
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                                Last edited by 55 Rescue Dog; 01-16-2023, 05:19 PM.

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