09/17/2004

Subject: [15%] 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTF
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: BOB FORD <bob_ford@sbcglobal.net>
To: "BOB,FORD" <BOB_FORD@sbcglobal.net>

THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST FOR SEPT
17, 2004


IF THIS E-MAIL HAS AN ATTACHMENT, IMMEDIATELY DELETE THIS
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THIS LIST IS DESIGNED AS A MEANS FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN
THE 1955, 1956,
AND 1957 CHEVROLETS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE
A
LITTLE FUN IN THE PROCESS. ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.


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EDITOR
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From: Editor

I urge any California list member to go to
HTTP://WWW.GOVMAIL.CA.GOV

and express their opinion on AB 02683. This is the
proposed law that would repeal the
exemption of cars 30 years old from smog checks.

An interesting side note. Diesels produce millions more
tons of smog than cars over 30 years old
but you never see anyone proposing to clean up a diesel. I
wonder why?

BOB
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From:"Mike Novins" <mike@calwest-radiators.com>

Dear Bob,
Just got in a new radiator assembly for the tri-5,s.Check
out my
Website to see it at www.calwest-radiators.com , Also in
about 2
Weeks, we will have the reproduction 15" ( 57 steering
wheel )

Thanks,
Mike Novins

Editor's note. Here is a story from my past. I bought a
new 65 Buick Special. In 1968 the
steering wheel cracked. I bought a new one and in 3 years,
it cracked also. I complained to the
dealer about defective parts. He said he would check on it
for me. A few weeks later, he called
me and said the design life of the steering wheel was 3
years. That was my last Buick.
BOB
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From:chuckelliott@cox.net

Bob
This posting was from Thadd, I reply below.

From:"Thadd" <Thaddspad@cox.net>

Bob, one of the guys at your get together had a 57 Nomad
for sale. I wrote his name and number down, but my wife
"cleaned up" my
office. Do you have any idea who it was ???
Thadd

Thadd
I am the one with the Gold 57 Nomad that you met at Bob's
house. I
tried to send you an email but it wouldn't go thru so I am
answering you here.
I still have the Nomad for sale. Let me know if you are
interested. I can send photos via
email.
Chuck
949-4872425
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From:GH1067@aol.com

Regarding the inquiry about the stretch '57 limo (red) on
Long Island, the
company name was Excalibur Extravaganza Limousines located
at 9303 Third Avenue
in Brooklyn, N.Y. 11209 (718) 745-3443, 1-800-833-9303. The
owners name was
Frank Deluca. I don't know if he is still in business or if
the phone numbers
are still good - He did promotions with New York's Oldies
Station WCBS FM101.
Good Luck locating it.
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From:garysgearbox@fuse.net

Bob This note to the guy that would like to join the club
but feels
his car is not up to appearing as nice as the other cars in
the club;

I believe that it is the love of these cars along with
their
wonderful history in this country that makes it fun and
worth while to own
one. Of course who does not want to own a 1000 point car?
Then how about
the folks who do not even have a car at all? I sugest to
this fellow
that he join the club and enjoy the fellowship and realize
he is one step
ahead of those who do not have a nice historical ride like
he does. Who
knows perhaps being in the club will open some doors for
him to upgrade
his ride. I would suggest welcome aboard to him.

Gary Howard
Garys Gearbox
Ps Bob my thanks to you for all that you do and I wish I
could make it
to one of your shindigs. Keep up the good work
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From:McGillis@aol.com

Hi Bob, this is a great event we should all support.
Thanks, Dennis McGillis

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Are you a car guy? Do you love antique cars and hot rods
by the
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Costa Mesa on
Saturday, September 25 for the largest one day car show
(and cruise) in the
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research.

Prostate cancer will strike over 189,000 men this year. Of
these, over 31,000
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Over the past several years, upon further testing, 14 men
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For more info: www.cruisinforacure.com
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From:jerald.mull@ngc.com

Hi friends-
I'm forwarding this message to everyone I can think of,
including Bob Ford's
57-56-55 Chevy List. Hope we can find one. As always,
please contact Darryl
directly at D&P Classic Chevy Restorations
(DPChevy@aol.com)

Thanks!! Jerry:>)
-----Original Message-----
From: DPChevy@aol.com [mailto:DPChevy@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Mull, Jerald
Subject: (no subject)

Hi Jerry,

We are getting ready to do a special tribute to the 50th
anniversary of the 55
Chevy. We are looking for a restored, or clean 1955 265
motor out of the car
to be put in a photo studio for a cover on super chevy
magazine. We need it
right away as they have a deadline. Could you please
spread the word and let
me know if anyone has a motor we can use for the photo
shoot.

Thank-you
Darryl @ D&P
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From:DMYT36@aol.com

I would like to change front hubs to the roller bearing
hubs. Do you know which
cars I can get them from? I have a chance to get them from
a junk yard near me.
I did this a few years ago by cutting the drum off and
using the spindles but
forgot what I got them off of. Thanks Dan
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From:"rbr" <roybobroy@wesnet.com>

Hi Bob,

I was reading through your recent list and found this:

It is a 1957 Chevy 2 dr wagon (One of only 206 made) with
the Belair option.
=====================================
Huh? Please describe more fully- I've never heard of
this....

CJ Wilson
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I have to agree with Wyatt, I've never heard of such a
BelAir Wagon. I'd
certainly like to see more info on it.

Only low numbers vehicles I've ever heard of Chevy doing in
'55-6-7 were the
Specialty ones, like my (windowed) Sedan Delivery. Thanks.

RJ
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From:"Ron Foote" <ic28837@yahoo.com>

Bob, Please pass this info to our list members. There
is another site for selling/buying. It's called
"craigslist.org". What's nice about it is it's local.
You select your city and it will bring up a menu list
you can select from. Granted It's not as slick as eBay
or as big but, you can drive over and "see it before
you buy it". Do list members have other sites they
know of?
Thanks,
Ron Foote
Heartbeat Classic Chevys
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From:Rebag9@aol.com

Bob,

I have a complete 4 speed setup for a 55 - 57 Chevy for
sale. Includes M-21
Muncie, Hurst competition plus shifter, flywheel, 11"
clutch ( 400 miles on it )
throwout bearing, pedal linkage, bell housing, all dust
shields and starter. All
it needs is the speedo cable. Asking $ 750 for the whole
package. I am in
Indianapolis, Indiana.

Thanks,
Eric
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From:"Paul Morris" <paulmorris11@cogeco.ca>

Bob I seem to remember reading that Columbo`s car was a
1959 Peugeot
and was quite a rare car. It probably pissed off any
Peugeot restorers
seeing him rattle around in that thing . Anyway thanks
again for your efforts
on this list. I get lots of tips as I rebuild my 55 210
post- Paul Morris
Oakville Ontario Canada
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From:NomadMan55@aol.com

It is a 1957 Chevy 2 dr wagon (One of only 206 made) with
the Belair option.

Tom,
As far as I know, the only 57 2dr wagon with the 'Belair'
option was the Nomad.
Looking at this car, it is obviously extemely modified. So,
most likely the
Belair moldings and inserts were added. There is also no
Belair dash trim or
hood & trunk emblems.
- Warren
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From:NomadMan55@aol.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I know the other GM branches put out cars based on the
Chevy Chevelle body style.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I think Olds' version was the Cutlass, but what were the
Pontiac and
Buick versions? I seen to recall a Buick "GS" model, was
that theirs?

CJ Wilson

CJ,
The Pontiac version was the Lemans/GTO. The Buick version
was the Skylark/GS.
And, the Olds version was the Cutlass/442.
- Warren
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From:"Paul Kahl" <austsrf@pacbell.net>


Bob concerning the gentlemen who has what he calls a "rough
car" and is
hesitant to join a club because he only saw beautiful cars,
I agree with you
that he would be welcomed into the club as nearly all of
the cars we build start
out rough and get beautiful as work is done on them. Most
of us do not have the
big bucks to have our cars professionally built and I
admire someone who works
on his own car no matter what their talent level is,
personally I would welcome
him to the club. Paul.
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From:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com

To Thadd:

I still have the sign in sheet from Bobs "meet the
Editor" cruise. I will
see if I can figure out who had the '57 Nomad for sale and
let you know soon. I
also might have a picture of the for sale sign with his
phone number on it. I
will look into it tonight. If I remember it right he was
also interested in
tradeing it for something else as he had 3 of them. WoW, 3
Nomads!!!
Kim
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From:"Jens Fredholm - Home" <jens@fredholm.org>

Hi Bob,

I have one question for your great list:

>From Eckers (Classic Chevy Club), I tried to get some help
in regards
to the correct tire size for my 57 convertible, when using
aftermarket wheels.
I was looking for the widest possible, but remaining with
the original
tire diameter (in order to have correct speedometer). Then
I bought some 15"
wheels, and the suggestion from Eckers was to have tires:
235/70R15.
Now I have mounted the wheels, and they seem to have a too
high diameter
(seems to be woo big!).

Any comments to this from anybody?

Thanks and many greetings from Denmark

Jens Fredholm
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From:Nomadcpa@aol.com

Hi Bob and list members:
First to Amos...As an ebay buyer who completes my side of
the
transaction first, I will not leave any feedback until I
receive mine. If you
as a seller, cashing my check and holding my merchandise
for 2 weeks
wants feedback first, you will have a long wait.

Next to the unnamed person who wants to join a classic Cevy
club in the
L A area...Classic Chevys of Southern California will
welcome anyone
who has an interest in these cars. Ownership is not a
requirement. We
are located in the San Fernando Valley. Jerry Mull and
LACCC will
welcome you as well. Sounds to me like you haven't checked
things out.

Lastly, I think Columbo drove something really popular like
a Simca.
Sherwin Silver
Classic Chevys of Southern California
1956 Nomad
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From:"Joseph Rock" <underrail@msn.com>

Columbo's Car - Dilapidated, 1959 Peugeot 403 Grande Luxe
Cabriolet
(convertible), manufactured in Sochaux, France, by "SA Des
Automobiles Peugeot"
seen on the police drama COLUMBO
Joseph M Rock
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From:"Bruce Jacobs" <bruce_bj@swbell.net>

Bob,

My car looks good, but it ain't a beauty. I belong to a
club, and they
were happy to get me in. As a matter of fact, you don't
even have to have a
tri-5 to join. You just have to have the interest.

Bruce Jacobs

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From:"Tony" <tnahvlle@foxall.com.au>

Hi Bob and list members. Firstly thank all you guys for the
tremendous amount of
information that you pass on this list. There is always
something to learn with
every edition.I'm from down under Australia, and we don't
get the wealth of
information that comes with experience. So I have a 55
convertable and I want to
rebuild the treadle vac brake booster and master cylinder,
can anyone tell me
where I can get a rebuild kit from? I have spoken to
Danchuck and they do not
have a kit available. I will be in LA in early November and
am willing to bring
my treadle vac over. Does anyone know of a shop that will
rebuild it while I am
staying in LA? Any information would be great. Thanks Bob
for the effort you go
to ,to make this list appear on my screen, Kind regards to
all. Tony.

Editor's note. I suggest you contact Cliff Waldron at
clifchev@aol.com He can rebuild
it for you or sell you one already rebuilt. His phone
number is 503-667-4329. Cliff is located in
Oregon.
BOB
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From:kfmartel@rockwellcollins.com


Bob,

To the person that is worried about joining your list I
say that anyone who
has an interest in restoring old Chevy's is welcome. That
is my clubs moto as we
do not even require that you own a Chevy.

Kim
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From:"Jim Larson" <chevyman@drtel.net>

Hi Bob
I was reading about the 57 BelAir 2 Door Wagon. GM
does make
mistakes at the factory and I have a car that proves it. It
is a 57 210
hardtop, but the VIN shows it is a belAir and the trim tag
shows it a
210 hardtop. I know someone is going to ask does it have
the short
fins,
yes it does. It has holes in the quarter panels for the
Chevrolet
script. It has 210 door panels and interior. It has the
chrome Vee's on
the hood and trunk. I wonder how rare this car is? Does any
out have
that have a factory goof up like mine.
Thanks
Jim Larson
57 210/BelAir Hardtop
57 convertible
Cameo Truck (stretched w/3rd Dr)
55 Hardtop (for sale)

Editor's note. Jim, where are you located. Someone
recently told me they wanted to buy a 55
hardtop. Please send me an e-mail for the next list
that describes the car you have for sale.
Also, have you seen the prices 57 convertibles are selling
for now. You may own a gold mine.

I am going to pass along some information from personal
experience that may make some people
unhappy but you might as well know the truth. I worked at
a car dealer when I was going to
college in Springfield Missouri in the 50s/60s. The more
cars a dealer sells, the more goodies the
dealer get from the factory. Like a bigger allocation of
hot selling cars or warranty coverage of
repairs they would normally reject.

Therefore, dealers will do almost anything to sell a car.
This brings me around DSO (Dealer
Special Order) cars. If someone came into the dealer and
wanted a car with a non standard color
for instance they could get it if they wanted to pay extra.
Want a hole drilled in a car's roof. No
problem, the price was $25 then. The biggest users of these
options were cab companies. They
wanted a yellow car and a hole in the roof. If the buyer
wanted something really exotic, the
dealer had to ask the factory if they could build a car
like the buyer wanted. If the factor could
build the desired car, they sent back a price for it. The
buyer then had the option to buy the exotic
car they wanted or not.

All of these "special" cars had DSO stamped on the cowl
tag. I don't remember all of the non
standard options that people got on their cars. A few I do
remember was a person that wanted a
car that had not been painted. He wanted to do it himself.
He got that car. Another guy wanted
a car with a partition between the back and front seat. He
got that car. Another guy who was
very tall wanted seats that went back farther than normal.
He got that car also but at great
expense.

BOB
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From:delray55@alum.rpi.edu

To: Paul Pachuta

If you re looking for tech help or work done on your Chevy
in the San Diego
area, consider contacting Classic Chevys of San Diego.
Their club has several
members who perform all types of restoration work as well
as supply parts. You
can find more info about the club by checking out their web
site; just enter
Classic Chevys of San Diego into a search engine such as
Dogpile.com for the
internet address.

>>>
From:"Bill Kautz" <kautz@comcast.net>
To:jwilson@unctv.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hey Jeff,
In the 1961model year GM started building "mid-sized "
cars, Oddly,
Chevrolet was the only GM division that stayed with the
"full-sized" cars with
the exception of the Corvair and the Corvette. The other GM
mid-sized cars were
the Buick Special, Olds Cutlass, and Pontiac Tempest. In
1962 Chevrolet
introduced the Chevy II, later Nova, With the introduction
of the Chevelle in
1964, GM had a complete line of mid-sized cars. Of course
Cadlilac didn't deem
it necesary to go for a smaller car as they were all about
size and luxury, i
hope this answers your question, If you ned more info feel
free to e-mail me.
Wild Bill
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From:"Charlie" <chas108@weir.net>

Hey Bob:

1) I'm going from memory but I recall the Beverly
Hillbillies "truck"
as being a 1921 Oldsmobile touring car that had its rear
cut off
and a truck body mounted.

2) As for Jeff's question...the GM A-body cars (based on
the Chevelle)
were the Pontiac Tempest/LeMans/GTO, the Olds
F-85/Cutlass/4-4-2,
and the Buick Special/Skylark/GS. Now to make things more
interesting...in Canada, in the 60's, Pontiac sold a series
of Chevies
with Pontiac trim. The mid-size entry was called
"Beaumont",
distinguished by a split grille and other trim changes.
1969 was the last year for
Beaumont, Pontiac went to the American Tempest/Le Mans/GTO
lineup for 1970.

3) Colombo drove an old Peugeot convertible. Don't know the
year.
I saw Peter Falk and the car recently in a magazine though.

Hi to all!

Greg Call
Burgettstown PA
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from:rwflury@comcast.net

Hi Bob:
Enjoy your news letters and find interesting topics from
members.
I have a 1955 Chevy Pickup with the big rap around window
in back. I
want to put over the shoulder seat belts in it since it is
my daily
driver and I cant trust the driving of some people on the
roads. The area
on the door jam post is wide enough to accept a bolt, or I
will take
out the rear window and weld on a clip for thickness and
attach a seat
belt loop to it.
Has anyone done this to their truck yet, and does anyone
have any
information on what to use for a cross-the shoulder belt?
I would appreciate any input, and thanks
Dick rwflury@comcast.net
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Window

I know the other GM branches put out cars based on the
Chevy Chevelle body style.

I think Olds' version was the Cutlass, but what were the
Pontiac and
Buick versions? I seen to recall a Buick "GS" model, was
that theirs?
The Pontiac's included the Tempest/GTO, the Buick's were
Skylark/Gran Sports.
The 1964 & up El Caminos (GMC Sprints too) were based on
this chassis too. I
believe they are all "G" bodies in the General Motors
nomenclature.

Joseph M Rock
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From:"Thadd" <Thaddspad@cox.net>

Bob:
Regarding C J Wilson's question about GM
intermediates...The Pontiac
version was the Tempest (GTO was a tempest) and the Buick
was the Skylark. A
Skylark GS had a larger engine and a handling package, 64
and 65 GS's had
either a 401 or 425 nailhead, and the later versions had
400, 430 or 455
depending on the year. One of the fastest production cars
of the era was the 70/71
GSX
Buick...These things would run in the 12's with good tires.

Thadd
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From:Lyle Wilson

Can some list member tell me if it is possible to copy CD
and DVDs on my computer. If so what
hardware and software can I use?

Thanks
Lyle
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From:"Lisa Metone" <lisam2@cwa.com>

Mr. Ford

You do not know me but one of your list members sent me a
copy of one of your list last year
where someone had found their mother and father in Hawaii.
They had a good outcome. My
friend on your list knew I was searching for my parents
with no luck so they sent me that item.

Although I really could not afford it, I hired someone to
help me search for my mother. After a
few months they found her. I flew to California to see her
a few weeks ago. Tears flowed for
hours when we meet. My mother had recently had breast
surgery for cancer and she was going
through an extremely rough chemo therapy. She told me
that seeing me gave her the strength to
carry on the chemo therapy which she was about ready to
give up on because it hurt so much.

Thanks so much for what you have done for me. I now feel my
life is complete.
Lisa Metone
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