07/17/2004

Subject: [15%] 57-56-55 CHEVY LISTF
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:02:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: BOB FORD <bob_ford@sbcglobal.net>
To: "BOB,FORD" <BOB_FORD@sbcglobal.net>

THIS IS THE 57-56-55 CHEVY LIST JULY 17,
2004


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EDITOR
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From:jerald.mull@ngc.com

Can anyone help Michael in his search? This is for the
upcoming Palos Verdes
Concours D'Elegance Show. If so, please contact Michael
directly. Thanks!!
-Jerry:>)

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael D Patterson [mailto:PattersonMD@raytheon.com]
To: Mull, Jerald

Jerry,
I am looking for some cars to support the Concourse that
Jim Moore works on
organizing every year. He has asked me to see if I can
gather some participants
for the Muscle Car class.

Would you forward this to any of your friends that you
think might have a
"Muscle Car Era" factory correct muscle car? Vette folks
too. There is a
separate class for Corvettes and that is not me. I will
forward the Vette
responses to the guy gathering the Vette entries. I would
appreciate any and
all help you can give me in this as I don't know anyone
with muscle cars that
are any where near showable I suppose that means 'Cudas,
Mustangs, Chevelles,
Malibus, GTO, Camero, and what ever else you can come up
with.

Looking for six to seven factory correct muscle cars to
participate in the
Concourse D'elegance at the Palos Verdes Country Club.
Chrome under the hood is
OK but the rest of the car should be factory correct if you
want to get into the
judging.

Deviations from factory correctness are OK if you don't
want to be judged.
Dealer options, variations on racing stripes are probably
OK too. The show is
not looking for blowers sticking out of the hood or
radically customized body
work or paint.

Date: September 19, 2004
Time: Show up between 6:00am and 9:00am and stay until
about 4:00pm
Cost: FREE, Gratis, no dough, etc.
Parking: Free and there are places for trailers too
Registration: Pre-registration only
Deadline: August 15th, 2004
Contact: Michael Patterson at 310-616-8409, pager
310-299-0048, or e-mail:
michaelthe9@sbcglobal.net or PattersonMD@raytheon.com

Thanks a bunch,
Michael
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From:robertarouge@juno.com

California Emissions Exemption Repeal Bill Will
Be Considered by
Senate Appropriations Committee on August 2nd;
Final Showdown

URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT (HEARING UPDATE)
California Emissions Exemption Repeal Bill Will
Be Considered by
Senate Appropriations Committee on August 2nd;
Final Showdown
As you are aware, the California Assembly and
now the Senate
Transportation Committee have passed A.B. 2683,
the legislation that
would repeal the stateÆs current rolling
emissions-test exemption
for vehicles 30 years old and older. A wide
array of business and
environmental interests aggressively support
this bill. The measure
would repeal the current pro-hobbyist exemption
and replace it with
a law requiring the permanent testing of all
1976 and newer model
vehicles. On Monday, August 2nd, the Senate
Appropriations
Committee has scheduled a hearing on this bill.
If the
Appropriations Committee passes this bill, the
entire Senate likely
will approve it as well and will send to the
Governor for his
signature. Make no mistake, our backs are
against the wall!
Call Members of the Senate Transportation
Committee (List Attached)
Immediately to Request Their Opposition to A.B.
2683
Even if you have called or e-mailed
previously,
it is critical that you make your feelings
known once again!
Existing law in California exempts all
vehicles 30 years old and
older from emissions testing.
CaliforniaÆs current emissions testing
exemption recognizes the
minimal impact of vehicles 30 years old and
older on vehicle
emissions and air quality.
Vehicles 30 years old and older constitute a
very small portion of
the overall vehicle population and are a poor
source from which to
look for emissions reduction.
Antique and classic vehicles are
overwhelmingly well-maintained
and infrequently driven (a fraction of the
miles each year as a
new vehicle).
Legislators, regulators and stationary source
polluters are
feeling the heat from a failed effort to meet
air quality goals
and are looking for a convenient scapegoat.
The old car hobby
should not carry the burden of their
mistakes!

California Senate Transportation Committee
Senator Dede Alpert (Chair)
(916) 445-3952
senator.alpert@sen.ca.gov
Senator Jim Battin (Vice-Chair)
(916) 445-5581
Jim.battin@sen.ca.gov
Senator Samuel Aanestad
(916) 445 - 3353
senator.aanestad@sen.ca.gov
Senator Roy Ashburn
(916) 445-5405
senator.ashburn@sen.ca.gov
Senator Debra Bowen
(916) 445-5953
senator.bowen@sen.ca.gov
Senator John Burton
(916) 445-1412
Senator.burton@sen.ca.gov
Senator Martha Escutia
(916) 327-8315
Senator.escutia@sen.ca.gov
Senator Ross Johnson
(916) 445-4961
Senator.johnson@sen.ca.gov
Senator Betty Karnette
(916) 445-6447
Senator.karnette@sen.ca.gov
Senator Michael Machado
(916) 445-2407
Senator.machado@sen.ca.gov
Senator Kevin Murray
(916) 445-8800
Senator.murray@sen.ca.gov
Senator Charles Poochigian
(916) 445-9600
Senator.poochigian@sen.ca.gov
Senator Jackie Speier
(916) 445-0503
senator.speier@sen.ca.gov
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From:MIKEI16@aol.com

Hi Bob and list members,

I will be in Anna Maria Island, FL the first week in
August, I was
wondering if there was any car cruises or show that week?
Thanks for any info

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From:"Carrie Arata" <carrie@arata.org>

Hi there,

I live in Los Gatos, California and am having a 50th
birthday party
with a 50's theme. I am looking for a few 50's cars to
park in my driveway
for a couple of hours during the party. Do you know
someone who would be
willing to rent his/her car for a couple of hours. The car
would not be
driven, sat in or even touched. I would love to have a 55
or 56, and a 57 Chevy.
Also, since I am a Corvette lover (I have a new one
unfortunately) I would
love to have a Corvette also. I am not limiting it to
Chevys, any 50s car will
do.

If you know of anyone who would be interested in "renting"
their car to
park in my driveway, please contact me.

Thank you,

Carrie Arata
carrie@arata.org
(408) 358-3790
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From:robertarouge@juno.com

Dear Jim,
By all means, you have my express permission to reprint it
and circulate it with
the following conditions:
If any modifications or endorsements are added, then my
name and email address
must be completely removed, especially the first and last
paragraph that I
authored.

Points of Order:
1. An email and snail mail copy has already been sent to
Jay Leno, who was
supportive on this issue previously.
2. The letter was already emailed to all members of the
"Senate Transportation
Committee", but you could add a "Petition Signature Sheet"
to my letter and
either hand deliver it to your Senators' local office or
mail it.

I've been around long enough to remember the mandated "Nox
Device" and the
problems that it caused with performance and fuel economy.
If we do not fight this legislation, than post - 1974 cars
could be required to
have additional "Emmision Control Devices" installed, and I
do not have to
explain the ramifications of that to folks like you, who
are very knowledgeable
in automotive mechanics.

Sincerely,

Robert A. Rouge`
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) James Baylor
<j.baylor@sbcglobal.net>
writes:
Robert,
I am one of the list members of Bob Ford's 57-56-55
e-mail list and just read
the letter from Sam Memoloo and the accompanied
information on the history of
the current regulations. I am in 100% agreement with the
letter. I am in the
San Bernardino, Riverside area and attend numerous car
cruises/shows in the
Inland Empire area, I drive a '57 Chevy show vehicle. My
wife's daily car is a
'65 Chevy II Nova SS.
I would like to know if it is allowable to print the
letter to the
Transportation Committee, and use it as a hand out at
cruises and shows with
the intention of people signing their own name and
mailing it to the
committee. We almost never hear of any information
regarding potential
regulations or changes to current regulations and laws at
the events that we
attend. I know that if we could make it easier for people
to show their
support a larger % of collector car enthusiasts would be
represented.
Thanks,
Jim Baylor
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From:"James Baylor" <j.baylor@sbcglobal.net>

Robert,
I am one of the list members of Bob Ford's 57-56-55 e-mail
list and just read
the letter from Sam Memoloo and the accompanied information
on the history of
the current regulations. I am in 100% agreement with the
letter. I am in the San
Bernardino, Riverside area and attend numerous car
cruises/shows in the Inland
Empire area, I drive a '57 Chevy show vehicle. My wife's
daily car is a '65
Chevy II Nova SS.
I would like to know if it is allowable to print the letter
to the
Transportation Committee, and use it as a hand out at
cruises and shows with the
intention of people signing their own name and mailing it
to the committee. We
almost never hear of any information regarding potential
regulations or changes
to current regulations and laws at the events that we
attend. I know that if we
could make it easier for people to show their support a
larger % of collector
car enthusiasts would be represented.
Thanks,
Jim Baylor
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From:Ilovemy56@aol.com

To Don Kent,. Thanks for the info on my 56 4 bbl air
cleaner element.
Richard
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From:"Saul Hoffman" <sabasaul@earthlink.net>

Hello Bob,

I have a RestoRod FIre Engine Red 57 2 Door Wagon which I
would like to
sell. It has been updated with a modern driveline (396
with a TH400),
4 wheel power disk brakes, A/C, and lots of other goodies.
Is this an
item for your list?

Look forward to your answer.

Saul
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From:"ROGER MACISAAC" <roger56mac@yahoo.com>

Hey Bob, I have seen in Rod and Custom mag. and other
pulications, in the back
pages that Art Morrison produces new frames for tri fives,
in answer to your
question....Roger
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From: ,ness192@earthlink.net

BOB

I hope someone can explain what you get when you buy a new
frame for a trifive.

Is it just the frame or does it include, the front and rear
axle, rear end, steering, etc

Bill Nesson
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From:WILLYHUAZ@aol.com

To: Warren Kramer
re: Early Chevy V scripts.
In 1956 If you had a V-8 in your car there was a Silver V
on the hood and trunk.
In 57, same thing, only, if the car was a Bel-Air the V
was gold, if it was a
150 or a 210 model theV was Silver. All of the 6 cylinder
cars had no V on the
hood or trunk. I remember when the 56 came out with the Vs
on the trunk and
hood, Cadillac owners were so upset they threatened to sue
Chevrolet feeling the
V was only for Cadillacs. I also heard from some guy his
buddy ordered a 57
Bel-Air "from the factory" with Gold inserts in the quarter
panels of his 57 Bel
Air. This of course is not true. Nowadays you can't tell
what kind of car it
is because they all look the same! Anyone want a 62 Bel
Air sport coupe 409?
Bill Hughes
willyhuaz@aol.com
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From:"Don Kent" <dkent@socal.rr.com>

Hi Bob,

For Warren Kramer:

You're probably going to get a gazillion answers to your
question about
the differences between gold and silver badging on the '57
Chevy. I've
re-anodized old pieces from junkyards, as well as redoing
the N.O.S.
badging on some very high-dollar cars. I've also
re-anodized some reproduction
parts. The "V"s are the most successful of the modern
reproduction
parts. Get N.O.S. of the other stuff! Anyway, here's the
deal: Gold
(anodized aluminum) was used on the BelAirs only. The
silver parts were used on
the 210 and 150 (a lot less of them on the 150). Modern
reproduction parts
are almost all brass-plated pot metal, and don't look like
the originals at
all. There are some aluminum pieces available that are
touted as being
identical to the originals, but they're not. The GM pieces
were stamped and the
repros are poured. The composition of the metal is a bit
different,
too. Also, the originals were "bright-dipped" (an anodizing
technique) and
then gold anodized with a very slight pinkish cast to them.
The repros are
only anodized, if they are the aluminum type. They don't
have the same
luster as the originals, either. By the way, all N.O.S.
pieces are slightly
different from each other, colorwise, due to the small
differences in anodizing
chemical (acid) dye lots. Also, a trick you may try on
the
rear-quarter crest is to buy one of the shiny repros that
are available now. Then
pick up a rattle-can of Krylon "Matte-Finish" clear. Hold
the can about a
foot away from the crest and "fog" it with the Krylon.
When it dries (which
won't be long) it looks very much like the original
aluminum piece. If
you have a lot of money . . . look for the real ones!
Putting the crests
in is another whole problem. Just remember though, NONE
of the parts should
be shiny if you don't get N.O.S.

Hope this helps.

Don Kent
Northridge, CA
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From:"Fastimage" <fastimage@comcast.net>


Check out the frame offered by Art Morrison in Fife, WA.
This is a complete frame with sport car handling.


Imagine having a car that has
the classic looks of
a Tri-5 Chevy combined with
the ability to handle
curves like a slot car, stop
on a dime and
accelerate like a rocket.
It;s easy when an Art
Morrison GT Sport chassis is
part of the
equation.
With all of the appropriate
mounts jig welded onto
the chassis building your own
Tri-5 sports car is
a project that most competent
do-it-yourselfers
can accomplish in their own
garage. Little or no
welding is required to
install this chassis under
your classic Chevrolet.
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From: "Curt Grady", INTERNET:curtswork@hotmail.com

Bob,
Any update on when there will be production for rear
underseat mats
for Nomad's?

Thanks,
Curt
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From: Editor

Please mark your calendar for the afternoon of SATURDAY Aug
14, 2004. We will have a
"meet the editor" get together on Mark Circle in Villa
Park, California. I hope to meet you and
see your cars. Let me know if you need directions.

BOB
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From:Bill Hoskens,INTERNET:billandmillie2@softcom.net

Bob

I heard you speak to a group a few years ago about tips on
getting a job. My wife is returning to
the work force after many years of taking care of our young
children. I would sure appreciate the
information you gave out about getting a job. As I
remember, you told it "like it is". I bet there is
a lot of people on you list that would like that
information also.

Bill Hoskens

Editor's note. Bill, I am going to send the information to
you as a private e-mail. Finding a job is
serious business. If a person doesn't have a job, it is
hard to be in the old car hobby.

I hesitate to put this information out on the list because
it is controversial . The information works but some
people are not going to like it. I invite list members to
comment whether they
think putting out this information is appropriate. I
spent a lot of years working in industry and during that
time I hired over 200 people. I also observed other
peoples hiring decisions. I don't think I am telling any
secrets but when it comes to getting hired, LIFE IS NOT
FAIR. If life was fair, the most qualified person would
ALWAYS get the job. That rarely happens. There are ways
to improve your chances of getting hired and ways to hurt
your chances of getting hired.

Here is a small sample of the information from a recent job
hunt of the wife of a friend of mine. It was the same
situation as yours. His wife was returning to the work
force after their kids started school. She was well
qualified for the jobs she was seeking but did not get any
offers. She told me about her lack of offers and asked
what she could do to get an offer. The jobs she was
looking for had lots of people interviewing for the job.

The key to getting a job in this situation is to be
remembered from the interview. How can you do that? In
her case, she decided to die her hair red. She had it
professionally done and it looked great. Her husband wants
her to keep it that color but she is not sure about that.
Did it work?

She got a job offer on her first interview and is now
working.

BOB
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