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    I really really strive to do good work on my cars and the things I am doing to them, and often what I do looks pretty nice. But when you get down to it, I am just a backyard hacker. So I really appreciate the opportunity to see how a real professional approaches problems and sorts out a solution. Many thanks Robert.

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    Nothing wrong with backyard hackers, if I had the tools and equipment I have now with he energy and drive I had when I was building cars in my parents driveway that would be something.

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    I'm just a backyard hacker with a tool hoarding issue..



    With fence repair duties out of the way we can get back to some progress on the wagon. Finally got the correct clips for the beltline molding...



















    We had been attempting to polish up some of the stainless trim but always seems to find 67 years worth of scratches difficult to remove. So we opted to give Trizact a try, starting with 1500, then 3000, 5000, and finally 8000.. The edge of the 3000 and up seemed to bear the brunt of the polishing duties, and wore off much sooner than the center. In an effort to get more life out of the trizact pads, we purchased a 5" Dynabrade where we could cut the outer (worn) portion off the pads and continue to use.. The Trizact did well on the stainless, a much easier task at the polishing stage...


































    We also have been working on the wiring, and getting it run inside some protective loom. To keep things tidy and knot free, we opted for some heat shrink tubing spaced at regular intervals.. Where I've seen electrical tape used in similar situations, the tape seems to turn into a sticky mess in short order so we'll give this a try. Jared has some re-wiring to do on his 39 coupe so this is good practice (learning curve) for him.. This section is from the fuse box to the rear of the body, the tan wire pulled out is for the fuel sending unit.
























    These clips are just about the right size for this harness "portion", we got them to run along the frame rail behind the rear axle, but found use for them in a couple other locations. Corvette part.



















    Here Jared made a protective channel where the wire passes under the rear seat frame.




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    Robert (MP&C) says in part ... I'm just a backyard hacker with a tool hoarding issue..
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    Sure you are Robert~ ... although your backyard is more 'broad and deep' than that of most of us, and your tool hoarding issue ... is one we all might wish to be a part of!

    The wagon is looking good, and your stainless polishing came out nice... as is your wiring...

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    I wish I was a hacker with half your talent..........

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    Thanks for the comments guys.. Buster, we all start somewhere. I'd be ashamed to show my work from 30 years ago..



    More progress on the wagon, we're getting some of our wiring run to the back of the car...









    In cutting out door panels our upholsterer cut out the speakers a bit too large for how we were mounting them. I don't think I had conveyed those details as I had planned on doing the speaker cutouts portion.. So to keep him from having to do that work over again, we offered to cut them out this time around.









    6-32 Riv-nuts used to hold the tweeter grill in place...



















    8-32 machine screws were sharpened to transfer the hole pattern onto the panel, then our speaker spacers matched to those for cutting out the center hole.
























    Next, holes drilled for our stainless trim that we had welded the impaling pins on prior....














    The stainless trim would be needed for upholstery, so we got to polishing.. A board was drilled to accept the impaling pins and better hold the trim piece for our prep stage of removing 67 years worth of scratches. Also worked well in holding things steady at the buffer..














    We used 3M Trizact on the DA, starting with 1500 grit and finishing with 8000 grit. This process cuts out the first two buffing stages, and seems to polish out nicer. Buffing process was using green rouge on sewn wheel and final was grey rouge on loose wheel.




    https://youtu.be/REH9gLXxaco




    This is after 3000 Trizact:







    This is after 8000 Trizact:







    This is after buffing:







    That'll do pig, that'll do.
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    Robert,
    Thanks for telling us about Trizact - I hadn't heard of those abrasive disks before. Good to know!
    Thanks, Doug

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    Keep in mind 3M is about the most proud of their name. I believe Norton and others make a similar product
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    Amazing work! Thanks for the updates!

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    Thanks!!


    I spent a week in Tennessee just south of Nashville, attending a metalshaping workshop and delivering the Pullmax there for Mike Abbott of Steel Rose Metal Co in Memphis TN. We had a good time learning tips and tricks, meeting old friends and making new ones.




    Jesse Harris, who lives about 15 minutes from me, travelled out as well, and gave an awesome demo on using the bead roller with a focus on artwork.
















    A leading demo on an aluminum Rolls Royce door...









    One of the attendees lives just north of Nashville, and a few of us travelled one evening to check out his shop, Ace Chassis. He has been building pulling tractors for about 20 years now and has quite the setup for machining, welding, and sheet metal fabrication.









    Upon return from TN, Jared brought over his 39 Ford so we could install a new wiring harness in place of the convoluted mess that was there.




    https://youtu.be/SpXH3K4BGXM




    He had some issues and a local fella that wires boats or something had made some repairs. This is his mainstay, I'd never seen the stuff and now having seen his work, I have my doubts about anyone who would use it on a regular basis.









    Here's some before pictures to highlight both his repairs and what was done before he got there. For some reason he decided that two separate runs of 12V power from the same source needed a resettable circuit breaker between them.









    Personally, I'm confused. But that's not the half of it. This is a "ground" cable that was attached to the frame.









    under the dash...









    This is in the passenger front floor area, there is a fusebox in there somewhere..









    The battery was located behind the passenger seat, and here is the cable routing beneath the car...









    Yes, that's the positive battery cable against the muffler.....









    With all this we found our best option was to remove the battery and start cutting out ALL the wiring.









    First order of business was to fabricate a mounting plate for the new fuse panel to get it out of the floor...









    Having removed the most splices I have ever seen under a dash board, our goal was to have as few splices as possible, and make direct runs where we could. W crimps were used throughout, adding glue lined heat shrink in place of the previously favored liquid tape.. Tail light wiring was plenty long so new contact buttons eliminated the typical splicing of pigtails..









    Tach and Speedometer connected...









    Headlight switch...









    For routing purposes, and to keep from drilling the firewall, we made some cable management using rare earth magnets and cable saddles..














    more to come......
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