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    Doesn't surprise me that out of the two Canadians that have their heads up their asses on the other site one is Bob_Mclaughlin, aka Romax55 here. I'm surprised that sleeper 55 aka "bootjack over there isn't ranting too.

    The ignorant morons claim that "600 lions are poached every year" in Africa. Those 600 lions out of 30,000 are LEGALLY shot by hunters paying big bucks to do so. Apparently the the socialist Canadian retards are jealous of these hunters' success in life.

    So they locked the thread and no more debate. That's what I hate about that site. Someone get porchdog over here.
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    porchdog gets sensitive when you present a viewpoint unlike his own too. Just not on this one.

    The world has no logic or perspective. The situation has been presented here, rationally.

    I saw an article yesterday about "rich dentists" saying their median income is $175k. That's not "rich" in 2015. It's a nice income but not wealthy. I guess it's more than a libtard reporter makes though, and as it should be.

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    Porchdog is a redneck. He claims to know a lot about body/paint but he has made remarks that make me doubt that. As far as the $175K income, not rich just a very good income.
    As far as Cecil and how it's presented here, yes, it's normal to have varying views. I for one do not like killing big game for trophys. I am not anti hunting nor anti gun just no real reason to kill a lion except in self defense. No reason to get one's panties in a bunch, either way. Except for chebynut that constantly knocks others and their viewpoint. NEWS FLASH-not everyone thinks the same.
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    Amazing how this story keeps changing.

    First they reported Cecil was shot with a crossbow, then it was a bow and arrow, and some reports still say it was a crossbow. Palmer is an avid bowhunter it seems, and bowhunters rarely use crossbows. Even if it was a crossbow I'm sure it's a legal weapon in Africa.

    Then they reported that the hunters were a mile away from the park boundary...then they said they went inside the park..then they say they were within 500 yards of the park. There is no fence. If they found the collar and carcass, how is it they don't know precisely how far from the boundary it was?

    Next they said they had the carcass of an animal on the top of a vehicle as bait...then they said they dragged it. I even read they supposedly dragged it into the park and back out.

    They said the lion was tracked for 40 hours after being wounded. The PH says they found him the next day and finished him off.

    It was reported that he was finished off with a gun....Palmer says it was an arrow. That's easy to verify.

    Today they said that Cecil's brother Jericho was also shot...then the guys GPS tracking him said he wasn't. Just adding more to the fire.

    Personally I'm believing the PH and Palmer's accounts of what happened because they make more sense to me. What I've heard is Palmer got in late due to luggage issues so they hunted this land closer to the park instead of going to the place the PH wanted to go. They had bait which is legal. The hunters haven't said how far from the park boundary they were as far as I know. Hunting with a bow is legal in Zimbabwe. Cecil was shot outside of the park. When he was shot he ran off so they waited til morning to track him. When they found him he was dispatched with another arrow. After they recovered him they discovered the collar and panicked, so they took it off and hid it. Neither the PH or Palmer said they wanted to shoot this particular lion, and I believe them. Why would you want to do that?

    So the truth trickles in and the lies and misrepresentations continue to swirl. It will be interesting to see how the two accounts of the hunt match up.

    Some of the media calls this "poaching" but I'm not willing to say it is until they say specifically what law was broken in this hunt. I have even read references to the 600 lions killed legally every year as "poaching". Some people obviously don't know what that means.
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    Just as I figured, no charges against Palmer, the dentist. Investigations concluded that he had the proper permits.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/455288032...#sp=show-clips

    It will be interesting to see what happens to the PH and the charges against him. He is "accused" of "luring" Cecil the lion off the preserve onto private property where he was killed. I have a hard time believing any existing laws were broken. Cecil made the mistake of leaving the sanctuary and as a result got shot and killed. I'm sure the dentist feels bad about shooting him.
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    Less than a year after the uproar over Cecil the lion....

    "“Far fewer hunters are going to Zimbabwe,” said Steve Taylor, a former game ranger and guide in Zimbabwe who is now associate director for International Safety and Security at Harvard University. “Directly after the Cecil situation numbers declined precipitously."

    ”One Zimbabwean conservancy floated the idea of culling nearly 200 of its lions to fight overpopulation. That notion – since tabled – has drawn condemnation, but it highlights the desperation some conservancies face as lion and other animal populations go unchecked, say some conservationists.


    Efforts to move some of the more than 500 lions living in the confines of the Bubye Valley Conservancy have so far been derailed. But the issue of overpopulation received little attention – until the cull proposal was mentioned."


    "Bubye, located about 300 miles southeast of the Hwange National Refuge where Cecil was shot, relies on trophy hunting to support its operating costs. But since Cecil’s death – and the outrage that followed – there has been a slowdown of hunters willing to travel to Zimbabwe to bag big game. In addition to negative public opinion impacting decisions, hunters have also been hampered by several major airlines refusing to fly exotic animal trophies and the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service listing species of African lions as endangered."

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02...l?intcmp=hpbt2
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    Now wonder if the groups that opposed the hunting will assist those in need now? Nope our cause was against the hunting in the first place. Now what to do with the over population...Can you imagine what would happen with the deer and elk population without legal hunting?

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