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    COVID (Coronavirus) Vaccine Info

    Hope this finds all here well. A friend forwarded me this info on issues caused by the Pfizer and Moderna RNA type vaccines today and given the title of this thread...... I wanted to share it with you......

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/va...angerous-toxin

    Our distrust of that type vaccine is the reason for our opting for the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine rather than the Pfizer or Moderna RNA type.

    Wife and I looked at it from a risk management perspective...... Was the risk (for us at our ages and with our medical history) greater remaining unvaccinated than the risk of being vaccinated?

    Long story short...... Given the options available to us...... We determined that we would risk the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine and took a chance on it. But had we no alternative to the Pfizer or Moderna RNA type....... We would take our chances going unvaccinated. (Our choice....... Not making any medical recommendations...... I'm a retired pipefitter...... Not a doctor. Just relating what wife and I opted to do and why).

    Ditto the AstraZeneca vaccine, though for different reasons. AstraZeneca is like the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine in that it is like a flu vaccine rather than an RNA type. In other words..... Both the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine and AstraZeneca vaccine are what is termed adenovirus (or viral vector) vaccines.

    The difference being that the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a dead virus whilst AstraZeneca uses live virus. And just as wife and I will only opt for flu vaccines with dead virus, we did not want the AstraZeneca vaccine with live virus even though it may be less of a risk than taking a Pfizer or Moderna RNA type vaccine.

    (PLEASE NOTE: All COVID specific vaccines are experimental and are administered on the basis of emergency government authorization due to the pandemic. However, the AstraZeneca vaccine is not yet approved for use here in America as far as I am aware.)

    You may find this of interest, as well......

    https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/ho...-vaccine-works

    There are also links within the article linked above addressing the RNA type vaccines and how they work. Or at least...... How they are supposed to work......

    https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/ho...-vaccines-work


    Best regards to all,

    Harry
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    Staff Sergeant Roy Benavidez......

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    A bit of humor...
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    Hell of a way to lose weight, Old Buzzard! Glad you were blessed to find a great doctor and are doing better now.






    Bear taco recipe......

    https://www.coueswhitetail.com/forum...ered-bear-fat/



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    Last edited by enigma57; 07-26-2021 at 11:06 AM.
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    Staff Sergeant Roy Benavidez......

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    * As long as we are discussing the subject of vaccinations...... Wife was watching 'Studio 6B' on TV earlier tonight when I came in. The segment aired today between 7:00 PM and 9:00 PM CST. They played some out takes from the 1979 '60 Minutes' documentary which was about the vaccine the Ford administration rushed into use on an emergency basis without adequate testing in 1976 when they overreacted to the swine flu. As I recall, the vaccine killed and maimed nearly as many as the actual swine flu did......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1jV...IndegraphTimes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kva0...IXCBSSFBayArea

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quBe...Memories.TV%29

    1976 'public service' announcement......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbB...nel=visionontv

    An interesting analogy to present day vaccine concerns, though unlike the Ford administration which acted prematurely out of good faith concerns for Americans and just made the wrong call...... I strongly suspect those holding high positions in the illegitimate Biden regime who are pushing the RNA type coronavirus 'vaccines' have ill intent and are to a greater or lesser degree acting in concert with the CCP, who unleashed (deployed) this bio-weapon to begin with.

    Wife tells me Tuesday night's episode won't be available for viewing again until tomorrow, but that you may find it here......

    https://www.livefromstudio6b.com/

    And possibly here, as well......

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHa...z5rxICpuC5zE7A

    Bottom line...... I was fortunate to miss the swine flu vaccine. I had taken the oath of enlistment to return to military service on 31 Dec. of '75, but because I was ill with strep throat, I was given advance leave whist it ran its course and did not report for indoc and from there, to the fleet until March of 1976. During that time, the Navy had apparently vaccinated quite a few personnel but had stopped due to side effects and I slipped through the net. 'Just'.

    Remaining at home was a bonus as well, because my youngest son had been born premature and I was able to visit him and see him through the glass in the ICU at John Sealy Hospital in Galveston before reporting for active duty. Poor little guy was so small and had more tubes in him than I could count. But he made it. Today, he is a grandfather in his mid-40s, works for PD in a large college town up in the Texas hill country and when he was younger, served aboard the Nimitz with VS-33 squadron for 4 years and deployed to the Persian Gulf. Very proud of him and his brothers. Good men, all.

    * Regarding the coronavirus, masks and the 'vaccine', our family take what we consider to be common sense precautions. Our decision. I do find it odd that friends in Canada, Australia, Sweden, and the UK seem to take a binary approach to this, though. In their view (at least as I understand it)...... They think that either everything the governement says is true. Or...... That the entire thing is a hoax...... The virus is not real and it is only a pretext to control people.

    Of course, I know for a fact the virus is real. We have lost close family members to it. I know who financed the gain of function R&D, who made it, how and where it was made and when it was initially deployed.

    And of course, amongst other things, it is being used as a pretext to control people. Biggest power grab and money grab in our nation's (and the world's) history when you connect the dots and come to the realization that the virus is not only a diversion but part and parcel with the coverup of the stolen 2020 elections.

    Moreover...... I feel certain that the virus and the 'vaccines' (the RNA types anyway) are being used for a far darker purpose than I have heard anyone speak of.

    Anyway...... I can tell that they are not responding to what I actually say, but what they must be conditioned to think I am saying, so I will not speak of it in my correspondence with them unless they ask a question specific to the bio-weapon (AKA 'virus'). There are those who have recently escaped communist China who say the next deployment is planned to happen towards the end of summer or beginning of fall. We shall see.

    * You may find this odd...... Biden, Fauci and crew are now pushing for lockdowns, mandatory mask wearing, travel restrictions, you name it...... For American citizens. Yet they have no problem ordering the Border Patrol to release illegal aliens infected with the virus into the general population here with...... No quarantine...... No vaccine...... No masks...... No deportation...... No travel restrictions! Kinda makes you wonder, don't it?!? ......

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...t-whataburger/

    Best regards,

    Harry
    Last edited by enigma57; 07-28-2021 at 02:23 AM.
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    Staff Sergeant Roy Benavidez......

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    Harry, this is getting more maddening by the day. Illegals are being shipped around the country with active China virus, and no restrictions, but here we are, mask mandates are back.
    How can they expect people, who are reluctant, to get the vaccine, when they still have to mask, yet these same people are spreading the virus around the country with illegals?
    What a disaster this administration is............how can people be happy with it?

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    I hear ya, Bill! The incongruities of what WHO/CDC/CCP, the Biden regime and their 'fellow travelers' in media say on this are not only contradictory and misleading...... They defy logic and reason.

    Our extended family have decided to look at the whole thing on a risk - benefit analysis basis, factoring in our own personal health histories and medical conditions (along with input from our family doctors) in our decision making process.

    Based upon that, we will make our own personal decisions as to whether we will wear a mask, take a 'vaccine' (and if so, which one).

    We will avoid the mRNA type vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) like the plague (pun intended) and take only the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine IF we elect to do so. And no...... Our younger family members and parents of minor chidlren have opted not to be 'vaccinated'. Risk - benefit ratio just doesn't work out.

    Just listened to Dr. Robert Malone, who actually invented mRNA technology...... Discuss anti-body dependent enhancement. Meaning that vaccines using mRNA technology may in certain instances...... Actually make a vaccinated person's reaction to the virus worse than had they not been vaccinated at all. His recommendation is that mRNA vaccinations should be stopped immediately and existing medications that have proven over time to successfully treat such viruses be employed until problems with these experimental vaccines are sorted out. And Dr. Malone is not an anti-vaxxer by any stretch of the imagination.

    My wife is especially rebellious when it comes to wearing a mask, even when it only makes sense to do so. So I remind her that every cloud has a silver lining...... Masks screw up Big Brother's facial recognition technology. And that's a good thing.

    And as far as kids not returning to school for a while longer or being home schooled instead...... I remind her that they really aren't being taught reading, writing, arithmatic, accurate history, love of country nor the things that really matter in school now of days, anyway...... And every day they aren't in school being brainwashed and indoctrinated with anti-American propaganda and lies...... Is a day they avoid the never ending mind-numbing communist / Marxist / globalist indoctrination. So that's also a good thing.

    Yes, I agree 100%...... The illegitimate Biden regime is a total disaster (I won't call it an 'administration' which implies legitimacy). Knew it would be from the beginning. When you know the players, you can anticipate how matters will play out.

    How can people be happy with it? With the exception of the 26% of Americans who are leftists in general (of which perhaps 15% are hardcore Marxists)...... The remainder are not happy with it at all. Even those who see this as a Democrat / Republican thing (it isn't, really) are beginning to see how it is affecting their lives and their children's and grandchildren's futures in a negative way.

    Thing to remember is that the media in America are little more than propaganda disseminators for the Marxist globalists masquerading as 'Democrat' politicians. And when it suits them, the Capitalist globalists masquerading as 'establishment Republicans', as well. (In other words, the Washington 'swamp' or uniparty). And not everyone has figured that out for themselves as yet. So there are quite a few people who are as yet uninformed, disinformed and misinformed, thanks to a corrupt and highly partisan media.

    That said...... I always like to think the best of people. So in my heart of hearts, I feel sure that as more and more people come to realize what is actually going on, the great majority of Americans will set aside petty differences and join together to demand a return to the America we all know (or should know) is truly 'the land of the free and the home of the brave'. Not the Marxist globalist dictatorship the current radical far left regime and the foreign interests they place above the interests of the American people...... Are attempting to reform our nation into.

    Marxism / socialism / communism has never worked anywhere it has been tried and will never work. Marxism is a failed ideology, plain and simple. And continuing to do the same thing whilst expecting different results has rightly been pointed out to be one definition of insanity. If anyone here in America is gullible enough to believe otherwise...... Let them move to a communist nation for a few years and see how they like it. But don't screw up America. There is no other place for people who truly value liberty and freedom and self-governance to go.

    And they should ask themselves...... If America is really such a bad place...... Then why are people from all over the world coming here (whether legally or illegally) looking for a better life than they had in the countries they left behind? Especially those who are risking life and limb to come here from communist dictatorships.

    Best regards,

    Harry
    Last edited by enigma57; 07-29-2021 at 01:49 AM.
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    Staff Sergeant Roy Benavidez......

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    Harry: I like the way you think and express yourself... and am thinking... 'We need Harry in congress!'...

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    Gary, you are very kind and I appreciate your suggesting that, but I'm kinda long in the tooth and rough around the edges for anything such as that.

    Politicians need to be easy on the eyes and not scare the hell outta people. After school, weekends and summers, I worked in a wrecking yard breaking up frozen engines with a sledge hammer. And at various stages of my life after high school, I was a construction worker, a construction inspector, a lumberjack, a truck driver, a Marine, a sailor, a SeaBee and I look like I came out of central casting to play those roles in real life.

    My late father-in-law called me one of the Dead End Kids. He told me once (good naturedly) that I shouldn't wear white tee shirts because if somebody hung hinges on my arse, folks might mistake me for a door!

    Best regards,

    Harry
    'G-d Bless The U.S.A.'...... Lee Greenwood......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_5aoptI5j0

    Staff Sergeant Roy Benavidez......

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    Boy, do I wish we had a "Like" button here! That's funny, Harry.

    I, too, would be tough one to deal with, not because I look so menacing, but I definitely speak my peace. I'm proud to report that I'm neither a Democrat or Republican, but consider myself a patriot, conservative, and a capitalist. I think I'm in good company in this country.

    As far as the schools go, Harry, I'n happy that my Grandson goes to a Charter School. They start the day in the school yard every day with the pledge of allegiance. He stare 8th grade next Monday, is a good student, and a star on the football and basketball teams. Yes, he has a computer, plays games, but is limited on time with that. He's a sports nut and can quote stars like nobody else I know. Unfortunately, next year, he'll start high school, and that's not available at the Charter school. His parents and my wife and I will do all we can to keep him on the right side.

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    IMO .. we have too many lawyers (and pretty boys?) in congress, and far too few 'regular citizens'... I think our country would be better served by 'drawing names' from the voter rolls for 435 'citizens' to come to DC for a couple of weeks a year and 'address problems' within our country. Our congress CAUSES far too many problems for the few (any?) that it solves~

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